^yep.


That guy made a horrible move.


lock. suspend. terminate him.

6/3/2007 2:55:57 PM

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"consumption has a long history of killing people in the world. We're not talking about plague like pandemics, but TB is one of the oldest known diseases. Even though the spanish flu killed that many people, I'm still reticent to believe the flu has killed more people than TB. "

first recorded pandemic that is attributed to the flu was recorded in 412 BC, TB aint got shit on influenza

6/3/2007 8:02:35 PM

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"it's Tuberculosis, man"

yeah i got that much, thanks. i was asking what sort of disease it was.

6/3/2007 8:18:16 PM

It's a very bad respiratory disease. Classic presentation involves cough, night sweats, weight loss. Comes on insidiously and can have long latent periods, so people can be transmitting it without you even knowing. Transmission is through droplets (i.e., coughing).

6/3/2007 8:22:55 PM

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"first recorded pandemic that is attributed to the flu was recorded in 412 BC, TB aint got shit on influenza"

That is just wrong. TB has been recorded dating back to ancient egypt and nubia. TB is chronic and gets in to the bones causing kyphosis which has been found on skeletal remains dating back thousands of years.

6/3/2007 8:51:40 PM

didnt read the whole thread


but i read an article today said that he has a baseball size clump of shit on one of his lungs, and they are trying to destroy it with drugs, but they might have to cut it out.

6/3/2007 11:10:03 PM

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"It does usually take prolonged exposure to become infected but this is also a new strain of the disease. "

Like being next to someone in an airplane for several hours?

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"and how is he gonna pay for all this?"

The dude flew to Greece to get married, he's a lawyer, I'm sure the situation he is in now will end up being much cheaper, etc.

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"And I doubt he would know how reputable Italian doctors"

That's what other Italians are for. They would know. I mean I don't know any reputable American TB doctors off hand. I'd have to go to the hospital where they would refer me to a specialist. Something I could probably do in Italy.

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"Greg Fansler, Speaker's former roommate, said there were documentation problems with the Greek authorities but that the couple held a wedding ceremony anyway and planned to take care of those problems when they returned to the United States."

Ha. That's a gem. You mean to tell me that this guy didn't respect an actual authority and just decided that he would go against the rules and do what he wanted. Surely you jest. Legal marriage? Meh, I'll take care of it when I get back to the states. TB? Meh, I'll take care of it when I get back to the states.

So why is the flu >>> TB argument even an issue? You guys act like if a doctor diagnosed someone with the Spanish Flu and that person later decided to circumvent orders not to fly that the person somehow wouldn't be in just as much trouble.

6/4/2007 7:26:56 AM

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"I wasn't thinking about all the various strains of the flu. I was referring to the strain that peopel get shots for every year."

LOL, if it was 1 strain, people wouldn't need shots every year, now would they?

There are thousands of strains of the influenza virus. Some years they are deadlier than others. And some years, they cause a global pandemic.

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"Influenza The "first" pandemic of 1510 travelled from Africa and spread across Europe.[2][3] The "Asiatic Flu", 1889–1890. Was first reported in May of 1889 in Bukhara, Russia. By October, it had reached Tomsk and the Caucasus. It rapidly spread west and hit North America in December 1889, South America in February–April 1890, India in February-March 1890, and Australia in March–April 1890. It was purportedly caused by the H2N8 type of flu virus and had a very high attack and mortality rate. The "Spanish flu", 1918–1919. First identified early March 1918 in US troops training at Camp Funston, Kansas, by October 1918 it had spread to become a world-wide pandemic on all continents. Unusually deadly and virulent, it ended nearly as quickly as it began, vanishing completely within 18 months. In six months, 25 million were dead; some estimates put the total of those killed worldwide at over twice that number. An estimated 17 million died in India, 500,000 in the United States and 200,000 in the UK. The virus was recently reconstructed by scientists at the CDC studying remains preserved by the Alaskan permafrost. They identified it as a type of H1N1 virus. The "Asian Flu", 1957–58. An H2N2 caused about 70,000 deaths in the United States. First identified in China in late February 1957, the Asian flu spread to the United States by June 1957. The "Hong Kong Flu", 1968–69. An H3N2 caused about 34,000 deaths in the United States. This virus was first detected in Hong Kong in early 1968 and spread to the United States later that year. Influenza A (H3N2) viruses still circulate today. "

[Edited on June 4, 2007 at 11:28 AM. Reason : 2]

6/4/2007 11:25:11 AM