martha will also be on torchwood for a few eps.

oh, and "Catherine Tate is to be Doctor Who's new assistant, reprising her Runaway Bride character, it is announced."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/6267680.stm

[Edited on July 8, 2007 at 5:05 PM. Reason : m]

7/8/2007 5:04:37 PM

That's what I had mentioned earlier. I think it might slow down or halt the "I love you, Doctor, but you don't notice me" story arc. Gets kind of annoying after a while. Some people think having her around will be like the Tegan companion. I'm not sure what to think.

7/8/2007 8:07:33 PM

i really enjoyed her during The Runaway Bride, and I'll like her more comic sensibilities over Freema, but I don't think I'd be able to take more than one season of her. Donna and Martha in the same Tardis though, that's just comic gold.

7/8/2007 8:32:02 PM

Rose>Martha>Capt Jack>Runaway Bride>Mickey

7/8/2007 8:33:21 PM

Dude you don't know what you're talking about. Mickey was awesome.

7/9/2007 8:42:44 AM

thought he was kinda annoying, I liked the Alternate universe mickey though

7/9/2007 8:54:07 AM

So one thing that they haven't really explained is that sometimes they travel thousands, hundreds of thousands, and even trillions of years into the future. The technology behind the human race advances yes, but the human race is still exactly the same... no form of evolution whatsoever. I would think that the writers would put some kind of explanation behind this in the show considering how much the human race has evolved in the past like 5,000 years.

7/9/2007 1:59:22 PM

Cassandra and the cat-human halfbreed from Gridlock (not the nurses, but the guy in the car) weren't enough for you?

7/9/2007 3:04:53 PM

The Timelords are one of the oldest races in the Universe, they look Human

7/9/2007 3:07:57 PM

Take a look at every human in the Utopia episode. Aside from from those vampire things outside the compound, EVERY person in the rocket was as human as we are today. And this was supposed to be trillions of years in the future. Given that if humans were to exist trillions of years from now, and that they had moved away from a then extinct Earth, they wouldn't remotely even resemble us now.

And if you are talking about the Gridlock episode, what about all those street vendors and people in other cars? The cats could have easily been some kind of alien race that could have merged with humans, I'll give them that but they still weren't humans like some of the other characters in that episode.

And I wasn't talking about the Timelords, the Doctor is the only one of those left anyway.

[Edited on July 9, 2007 at 3:46 PM. Reason : I guess it works for Cassandra, but that doesn't explain the Utopia episode]

7/9/2007 3:44:50 PM

He actually mentions in the utopia episodes that we spent long tracts of time as clouds of green gas and as digital downloads, but we "always revert back to that same human shape," or something to that effect.

But I mean, you're asking for realism in doctor who? Nothing about doctor who is realistic - in fact, it's usually purposefully silly.

We have seen plenty of human-descended "people" in the show who look nothing like us, too.

Humanity hasn't evolved in the last 5,000 years, by the way. Our genes are primarily the same, and we're the exact same species, as the first homo sapiens who emerged around 200,000 years ago. We have developed different skin colors, food allergies, etc, but the genetic makeup is almost 100% the same as it was then.

The one thing about evolution that I do think you'd need to remember is that humans are intelligent now. There wouldn't be as much natural selection once you're used to looking a certain way and having certain features, etc. I'd think, in fact, that tons of humans would want to make sure that large mutations didn't survive, just as we've seen with racism and whatnot in the real world.

But again, it's doctor who. He has a police box that travels through time and space... I wouldn't worry too much about the details


[Edited on July 9, 2007 at 3:54 PM. Reason : k]

7/9/2007 3:49:39 PM

Reasons why we could have physically stagnated?

Sexual Selection techniques favoring the 20th century model of humans.
genetic engineering
restrictive breeding laws designed to stunt physical evolution

just a few, obviously they don't explain everything, after all the doctor goes out and states quite plainly that humans head out into the universe and promptly mate with every available species. it could be that the humans you see in "utopia" are just the last of the humans bred for our current appearance of humans. Also, they could be the decendents of the Human Subspecies created by the Cat Nurses at the beginning of season 2, giving them a 5 billion year stunting of development.

Also, you're assuming that every change to a species happens on the outside of the skin.

7/9/2007 3:52:07 PM

^ right. The Doctor made it pretty clear that those humans had "Reverted" back to the original human form. Possibly for nostalgic reasons or... who knows.

7/9/2007 3:55:44 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/07/11/wedding.early.reut/index.html

Quote :

" LONDON, England (Reuters) -- Teacher Dave Barclay flew thousands of miles across the Atlantic to Wales to attend his friend's wedding, only to discover he was a year early. Barclay, 34, was told about the wedding earlier in the year and assumed it was to take place in 2007. It was only when he had flown into Cardiff from Toronto, Canada, and rang the bridegroom seeking details of the venue that he discovered the wedding was in 2008."

perhaps he fell through the rift?

7/11/2007 1:08:02 PM