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6/28/2007 11:27:53 AM

For those of you that don't get Telefutura for Spanish coverage or GolTV for English coverage (which I don't), you can still watch the game, albeit in Spanish, at univision.com where it will be streamed live. Just click on "transmision en vivo" or some button like that.

I'm thinking 1-1 draw for the U.S. tonight.

6/28/2007 4:27:02 PM

Quote :

"Pass much?"

aha, that had to be one of the most selfish displays i've ever seen

and castillo's goal was a tremendous display of control, even if he couldn't throw it in the ocean from a a submarine at the twilight of the match

i'm going to say 2-1 Argentina tonight

6/28/2007 4:34:33 PM

^,^^ predicting that the US scores a goal tonight is a bit generous. eddie johnson is the only striker who can somewhat compete at an international level, and taylor twellman, albeit a terror in the MLS, hasn't proven his worth yet. That combined with the pourous defense and inexperienced midfield we're sending, i fully expect argentina to win tonight in a route. I hope i'm wrong, but i don't see it happening. you just can't expect a team full of 2nd string americans to compete well against the strongest attacking team in this tournament. Messi, Tevez, and Crespo will be running circles around us tonight, and it will most likely get ugly. I don't really expect the stars and stripes to score more than 2 goals this entire tournament. bob bradley really has his work cut out for him tonight, and its a shame that in his first opportunity to fight some big boys, he doesn't have his first team.

6/28/2007 6:11:51 PM

^he can thank his A team players, most likely it was their choice not to go...

6/28/2007 6:30:45 PM

I thought it was more of USSF's decision to focus on the Gold Cup.

^^ I agree, I can't see the US scoring a goal tonight but if Keller's in goal, I don't think it'll be too bad... I'm going to say 2-0.

6/28/2007 8:22:56 PM

Paraguay spanked Columbia not much of a game. Hopefully the US will put up a fight.

6/28/2007 8:27:28 PM

It's on Sopcast in English.. channel 14391.. decent quality too.

PK drawn by Eddie Johnson.. great ball in.

1-0 US!

[Edited on June 28, 2007 at 8:59 PM. Reason : who'd have thought?]

6/28/2007 8:57:02 PM

GOL!

6/28/2007 8:58:56 PM

dammit just got home and i already missed a goal?! by the US no less?!


jesus awful defending

[Edited on June 28, 2007 at 9:00 PM. Reason : e]

6/28/2007 9:00:06 PM

1-1. Our guys are doing pretty good so far.

6/28/2007 9:17:41 PM

have done squat on offense since i started watching it around the 10th minute, but heres a nice free kick chance


[Edited on June 28, 2007 at 9:22 PM. Reason : fk wasted]

6/28/2007 9:20:56 PM

We're playing on our heels the whole game so far. Any attack is snuffed out by shitty passing on our part. We're lucky to be tied 1-1. With that said, go USA, i smell upset if we can score more goals then Argentina

6/28/2007 9:21:20 PM

I think Bradley's keeping close to the vest so we don't get killed on a counter.

6/28/2007 9:24:07 PM

EDDIE!!! damnit! wide open, you slow down and get it stolen... WTF

6/28/2007 9:33:17 PM

something has to change at halftime, im not worried about an argentina counter since they can attack without countering, but there is no way we hold them off the whole 2nd half(assuming the rest of the 1st) with the way we are playing right now

6/28/2007 9:33:30 PM

^ Well for starters EJ is getting zero help at all from Twellman up top.

6/28/2007 9:35:52 PM

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"It's on Sopcast in English.. channel 14391.. decent quality too. "

Sopcast tells me it can't find the channel.

6/28/2007 9:36:43 PM

yea i look out on the field and i see no "attacking" players

6/28/2007 9:37:50 PM

It's listed as Copa America: USA vs Argentina on there for me..

Anyway, solid back line in the first half definitely. Sloppy on that first set piece but they aren't giving Messi anytime at all.. Too bad Donovan isn't on the team (I really don't get that... it's not like MLS would have stopped him...)

^ well Eddie Johnson needs to fly by Mascherano.. no reason for him to slow up...

[Edited on June 28, 2007 at 9:39 PM. Reason : x]

6/28/2007 9:38:20 PM

^ Thanks, I was looking for the wrong number.

...and it goes offline.

[Edited on June 28, 2007 at 9:40 PM. Reason : .]

6/28/2007 9:39:48 PM

Wow. Did anyone see the other score in our group between Colombia and Paraguay?

6/28/2007 9:51:40 PM

no, what was it?

6/28/2007 9:52:33 PM

Paraguay won 5-0.

6/28/2007 9:52:58 PM

ahah jesus cristos! i knew colombia had been falling off lately, but i didnt know they were that bad now

6/28/2007 9:54:56 PM

Looks like the Colombians faded late. It was 2-0 after 75 minutes.

6/28/2007 10:00:37 PM

so close... that makes 2 free kicks that missed from just outside the goal box

6/28/2007 10:01:41 PM

yea i dont think the keeper had that covered

6/28/2007 10:02:05 PM

jesus how's that for a sub, take out cambiasso and bring in pablo aimar

6/28/2007 10:05:33 PM

WTF was that.... free kick that was on target, and our own guy dives in front to stop the ball.. and it's stolen away.


DID WE PRACTICE ANY FREE KICKS EVER!?!

6/28/2007 10:07:28 PM

did we practice any strategy, i hate the over the top approach in soccer

6/28/2007 10:07:56 PM

Messi shouldve buried that

6/28/2007 10:08:59 PM

^^ I hate the English soccer influence on our play. The English style is so completely stupid, "just lob the ball, it'll find the net hopefully!"

6/28/2007 10:10:55 PM

1-2.

6/28/2007 10:11:59 PM

thats sucks

USA - 1
Argentina - 2

6/28/2007 10:12:08 PM

goalie shoulda stopped that

6/28/2007 10:12:30 PM

Messi just owned the left side

6/28/2007 10:12:47 PM

well i cant be mad about the scoreline, we have hardly threatened, unless we kick start some offense, then argentina deserves a win

argentina is just quicker and more hungry for the ball

[Edited on June 28, 2007 at 10:15 PM. Reason : e]

6/28/2007 10:13:56 PM

god we suck, plz to hire coach with attacking mindset one of these days US

6/28/2007 10:23:45 PM

.... that was nice... but still,

6/28/2007 10:25:54 PM

game over, now hopefully they dont pile it on, cause this could easily become 5,6-1

6/28/2007 10:26:01 PM

that was a real nice goal

6/28/2007 10:26:24 PM

the front defender was terribly positioned on the cross, he was the one who jumped and missed the ball on the header, he was pretty much out in no mans land in between the winger who crossed and where the ball was obviously going to go

6/28/2007 10:27:30 PM

justin mapp, can you make your move to the left anymore obvious, youve done that twice in the 2nd half and easily denied by the defender, enjoy this copa america, i do not hope to see you back on the US roster in the future unless you learn to use your right foot

6/28/2007 10:32:50 PM

not like it matters any more... but was that offsides?

6/28/2007 10:33:13 PM

last thing to get off my chest. if bradley is playing younger people for this cup, why is keller in the nets? not blaming him in the least for this(he prob shouldve saved the 2nd goal), but i believe we might as well play a young keeper too


^looked close, but i like the no call, id rather see more gameplay and less whistles

[Edited on June 28, 2007 at 10:35 PM. Reason : d]

6/28/2007 10:35:13 PM

Anybody complaining about strategy in this game isn't really thinking. Our only chance to keep it close with the roster we had was to get an early goal and put 11 behind the ball. You can't play attacking soccer with no playmaker and no forwards worth a damn. We were totally outclassed at every position from the beginning of the game.

As for Keller in goal, he was probably included to have some kind of captain/leadership role at the tournament. Landy, Boca, Pablo, and I think maybe Timmy Tourettes have been the captains since Reyna left and none of them were going to play in the tournament. I was also under the impression Guzan was going to play at least one of the games in the tournament instead of Keller.

This scoreline should've been expected but the whole thing just really sucks. Any casual soccer fan is going to see it and say, "Well, USA still sucks at soccer, Argentina just demolished them 4-1." I'm not saying we would've won with all of our starters, but we will never earn respect if we don't take these kind of games seriously.

6/28/2007 10:46:27 PM

even with an inferior squad we couldve played better, a few passes on the ground and more forward instead of pulling back and backpasses wouldve helped.

eddie johnson and justin mapp learning how to dribble again could also help.

the defense did ok except on set pieces(miserable).

i never expected us to win this game if you look at previous posts before the game, but i do believe we couldve played better

6/28/2007 10:50:25 PM

Yeah, we probably could've played better, but it's pretty much what was expected. It's just troubling to me that Twellman/EJ are still getting caps... they've had plenty of opportunities and they're always the same disappointment.

I really really really hope Altidore pans out because I'm not sure who else we can put out there in a couple of years.


And as for Mapp, I've never understood why people hype him up so much. There's never been any question to me Beasley was the better option between the two but there always seems to be discussion about it.

Oh and while I'm complaining, let me add - can we please get an American that can take free kicks and corners?

6/28/2007 10:57:18 PM

god yes, as shown in this game free kicks can be devestating when you do them correctly, i hate seeing terrible shots over the goal and crosses right into the front man/wall/way off target...it just seems like it happens all the time with US crosses/corners/freekicks

6/28/2007 11:03:08 PM