^you kidding me

have you ever even seen a game w/ krob??

whether krob would have broken all of holt's records if he had stayed in school is debatable, but anyone who saw both play realize koren was the more dynamic returner, if not player

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"[Edited on July 24, 2007 at 5:21 PM. Reason : How could you leave out Manny?] [Edited on July 24, 2007 at 5:22 PM. Reason : MANNY LAWSON!!!!]"

sorry but Price was better than Manny in college. maybe you want to put manny as a 4th LB or 3rd DE

[Edited on July 24, 2007 at 10:10 PM. Reason : a]

7/24/2007 10:08:45 PM

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"you're an idiot. OSU's natl title came much more recently than Michigan's, as well as they've been to more BCS games. USC is nowhere to be found on your list whereas Georgia who hasnt won SHIT is?? And where's LSU? If you're putting VT on there, then you might as well have Wisconsin. I have too many problems with that list to continue. I'm pretty sure USC will be #1. "

This ain't who's now, bitch. LSU and USC were not powerhouses 6-10 years ago.

7/24/2007 10:53:12 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2947591

whoa... we're higher than 51... GG NCSU!

7/25/2007 12:03:24 PM

Haha, worse than WF...

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"T-60 Wake Forest 54-63 .462 1 conf. 2-1 This program is not a laughingstock anymore. Jim Grobe has patiently built the Demon Deacons into one of the better-coached teams in the country. Last year's 11-3 mark was a storybook season, but don't expect Wake to go back to 4-8. The program also deserves a lot of credit for doing things the right way."

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"67 North Carolina 54-64 .458 0 2-1 Most of the positives here come from the Mack Brown days, when the school really upgraded its facilities to first-class status. Unfortunately, in the aftermath, UNC, aside from producing Julius Peppers, hasn't been anything special. The program did produce Steelers standout Willie Parker, but then again, he barely played there. Expect new coach Butch Davis to boost this ranking a lot in the next few years."

7/25/2007 1:29:23 PM

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"Ladder 119: Nos. 51-75 (from 1997 to 2006) 51 Toledo 82-39 .678 2 conf. 2-2 Toledo's production alone is startling: an 82-39 record over the last decade, better than Auburn, Louisville and West Virginia, but it came in the watered-down MAC so the Rockets don't get much as far as style points go. Over the last five years, they are 2-7 against teams from BCS conferences and three of those losses have come by at least 40 points. This past spring, they also found themselves in the middle of a sticky gambling investigation involving Scooter McDougle, a Toledo tailback, that has folks there losing sleep. T-52 Minnesota 65-57 .529 0 3-4 In layman's terms, the Gophers don't stink, but they also haven't been all that good. They could do one thing really well, and that was run the football. Trouble was, that only got them so far. Under former coach Glen Mason, they went to seven bowl games in eight years, but none was in January. The worse news was that over the last seven seasons, they were just 24-32 in conference play. T-52 Pittsburgh 63-56 .529 1 conf. 2-4 The Panthers, who have lost six straight against ranked teams after beating Notre Dame and West Virginia in a row in 2004, still haven't gotten close to where they were a generation ago. They had a few false starts under Walt Harris before he fizzled out and now Dave Wannstedt is trying to get some momentum, but hasn't broken through yet. He does seem to be doing OK on the recruiting front, but this is a program that really needs a signature win to maneuver up to the level of West Virginia and Louisville while not getting overtaken by Rutgers and South Florida, something which may have happened already. T-52 Washington 61-58 .513 1 conf. 2-4 U-Dub used to be terrific and was a powerhouse at the start of the new millennium, but then Rick Neuheisel got in trouble and his replacement Keith Gilbertson floundered, and when Ty Willingham took over the program, it was arguably the worst in the BCS conferences. The Huskies appear to be getting back to respectability, but it's a very long road ahead. 55 Michigan State 61-58 .513 0 2-2 Perennially the Big Ten's most underachieving program, MSU constantly shot itself in the foot in the John L. Smith era. Penalties and late-season collapses became MSU trademarks. There was a lot of talent, but little productivity to show for it in the standings. Over the last 10 years, MSU was 19-37 against the rest of the Big Ten. On the positive side, the Spartans did rank No. 21 in the nation last season in attendance. That said, coach Mark Dantonio's discipline figures to be a welcome addition. T-56 Air Force 71-49 .592 1 conf. 2-2 The Falcons were a very solid 71-49 over the past 10 years under Fisher DeBerry and they were always among the leaders in graduation rate. It is worth noting the Falcons played only five ranked teams in the last four years and lost all five games. Under DeBerry, they had been sliding over the last five or six years while Navy continued to surge. It'll be interesting to see if new coach Troy Calhoun and his West Coast-based offense can get the Falcons going again. T-56 Oklahoma State 60-58 .508 0 2-3 The Cowboys are barely above .500 in the last decade (60-58). They've gone from decent to mediocre to pretty good and back to decent. OSU seems to be on the rise again, but it can't be easy knowing Bob Stoops and archrival Oklahoma have outshone the Cowboys during this 10-year stretch. 58 South Florida 43-26 .623 0 1-1 The upstart Bulls don't have as long of a track record, but their win percentage over this time frame is 62 percent, good enough to rank them at No. 29 in winning percentage. This is one of those surging programs in terms of national respect, and it has been that way since South Florida lit up No. 9 Louisville 45-14 two years ago. If we do this ranking again in another two years, USF probably will be 20 places higher. 59 Hawaii 67-61 .523 1 conf. 3-1 June Jones has elevated this program into a perennial offensive powerhouse. The Warriors are only 67-61 over the past 10 years, but they are 49-26 over the last six years. The schedule hasn't been great, but part of that is because UH hasn't exactly been the easiest team to schedule. On the negative side, the academic progress rating for Hawaii has been dangerously low. T-60 Navy 53-64 .453 0 2-2 Paul Johnson has quietly done a terrific job with this program. The Midshipmen have won 33 games in the last four seasons. They are also 8-0 against the other service academies over that same stretch. The one thing Johnson hasn't done, however, is end that losing streak to Notre Dame. T-60 Wake Forest 54-63 .462 1 conf. 2-1 This program is not a laughingstock anymore. Jim Grobe has patiently built the Demon Deacons into one of the better-coached teams in the country. Last year's 11-3 mark was a storybook season, but don't expect Wake to go back to 4-8. The program also deserves a lot of credit for doing things the right way. 62 Missouri 59-59 .500 0 2-3 The Tigers are 59-59 in the last 10 years. And it's taken awhile, but it seems like coach Gary Pinkel finally has some traction in Columbia. Still, it'd be nice if Mizzou beat someone very good. Aside from a 2003 upset of Nebraska, MU has basically lived off beating mediocre opponents and no one else. 63 Syracuse 61-59 .508 3 conf. 2-3 Man, has this program gone downhill. People may not have loved Paul Pasqualoni and his droll manner, but the Orange won big and graduated a lot of their players. The program is still very well-represented in the NFL, where the Pro Bowl usually has a bunch of high-profile SU guys (Donovan McNabb, Marvin Harrison and Dwight Freeney). But now Syracuse stinks, having gone 1-13 in the Big East in the last two seasons, and it doesn't look like things are going to perk up much in the near future. 64 Bowling Green 62-54 .534 0 2-0 This was one of the worst teams in Division I-A until Urban Meyer took over six years ago and resurrected the program. Sadly, BGSU appears to be sinking again, having gone from 8-4 to 6-5 to 4-8. For the decade, the Falcons have a solid 62-54 mark. They were 101st in attendance last season. 65 Northern Illinois 60-56 .517 0 1-1 Joe Novak has been at NIU for 12 years now and after just three W's in his first three seasons, he has consistently fielded solid teams. The Huskies' 39-16 conference mark is eye-catching, but maybe more impressive is the respectable manner in which they have played whenever they've faced bigger-name teams from out of conference. In the last five years, Northern Illinois is 4-7 against teams from automatic BCS-bid conferences, and it's worth noting that five of those games were against ranked teams, not just the Dukes and Baylors of their leagues. 66 Iowa State 52-67 .437 0 2-3 Under Dan McCarney, the Cyclones crept toward respectability after years of ineptitude. Still, Iowa State's sub-44 percent winning percentage over the last 10 years probably merits an even lower spot on this list. When the Cyclones did make it to bowl games, they were among the programs with the lowest graduation rates. To Iowa State's credit, the program does have a very loyal following. Last season, the Cyclones were one of about 15 programs in the country to average an attendance mark that was more than 100 percent of stadium capacity. (Iowa State's accumulated attendance for the season was 323,197. Its stadium capacity for the seven home dates was 320,698.) 67 North Carolina 54-64 .458 0 2-1 Most of the positives here come from the Mack Brown days, when the school really upgraded its facilities to first-class status. Unfortunately, in the aftermath, UNC, aside from producing Julius Peppers, hasn't been anything special. The program did produce Steelers standout Willie Parker, but then again, he barely played there. Expect new coach Butch Davis to boost this ranking a lot in the next few years."

7/25/2007 1:39:04 PM

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"68 Northwestern 49-70 .411 1 conf. 0-3 The 49-70 record is hardly impressive, and almost as bad, Northwestern really struggles to draw fans in a league that packs them in. Last season, the Wildcats were last in attendance in the Big Ten, averaging only 59 percent capacity at their games. The good news: They are almost always among the tops in graduation rate. 69 Cincinnati 58-62 .483 1 conf. 2-1 This might be a surprise, but Cincy has actually had winning seasons in five of the last seven years. Despite that, the program annually ranks near the bottom of all of Division I-A. This is a program desperate for an identity. Keeping coach Mark Dantonio from bolting for Michigan State would have been a big step. 70 Rutgers 39-76 .339 0 1-1 No program has jumped any higher over the last two years than Greg Schiano's bunch. The Scarlet Knights' win percentage in this 10-year span isn't even at 34 percent, but Rutgers' 17-6 mark in the last two seasons is reason to get excited. Schiano's plan of targeting southern Florida talent with four annual recruiting camps (that are no longer allowed by the NCAA) made Rutgers a viable option for many prime prospects, and it paid off big-time. Now fans are excited and RU is able to keep an even better caliber of recruit from the New Jersey area. (Rutgers beat everyone, including Ohio State, for the state's top recruit last year: mammoth OT Anthony Davis.) Rutgers also is reaping the benefit of Syracuse's decline. Witness the case of Heisman hopeful Ray Rice and a few other Orange-bound kids, who have rerouted to Jersey. 71 Arizona 53-64 .453 0 2-0 The John Mackovic era wasn't kind to a program that had been very strong in the mid-'90s. Mike Stoops has people fired up down there and the Cats seem poised to turn the corner in 2007. It's worth noting that they have four wins over ranked teams in Stoops' three seasons in Tucson, Ariz. Also worth noting: The Wildcats are 10-31 over the last five years in conference and they had the lowest academic progress rate among BCS schools. 72 New Mexico 61-61 .500 0 0-5 The Lobos are 61-61 in the last 10 years. They are best known for producing Brian Urlacher, who was a great player, hammering ball carriers and catching TDs in the red zone for New Mexico. Rocky Long's team also acquitted itself well with wins at Mizzou and against Texas Tech over the past three seasons. One trend worth watching: Last season attendance for UNM was down almost 10,000 fans per game. 73 Kentucky 46-70 .397 0 2-1 Hal Mumme got folks excited with his Air-Raid system. He brought with him Mike Leach and they fired the ball all over the place. Mumme and Tim Couch made Kentucky respectable and a threat in the SEC. Of course, Mumme's recruiting coordinator, Claude Bassett, caused Kentucky to become a hotspot for NCAA investigators too. The program seemed to be running in place under 60-something Rich Brooks, but then the Wildcats stunned everyone and went 7-5 last season. Still, 12-44 over the last seven years in the SEC is hard to get past. T-74 East Carolina 53-64 .453 0 1-3 Some folks in the Carolinas are probably still mad that the school canned former coach Steve Logan, although Skip Holtz has done a nice job getting ECU back above .500. The Pirates are 3-3 against BCS foes over the last two seasons. T-74 Mississippi State 50-67 .427 0 2-1 Sly Croom had a huge mess to clean up. The Bulldogs had quite a few run-ins with the NCAA under Jackie Sherrill, who did bring in some gifted JC talent, but ultimately caused the MSU brass a lot of headaches. The road back has been very rocky thus far. Over the last six seasons, MSU has not won more than three games in a season, although it's fair to say the program under Croom is in much better shape than before he took over."

we are going to be higher than a lot predicted.

7/25/2007 1:39:34 PM

Does Michigan State's entry sound familiar to anyone?

7/25/2007 1:47:10 PM

we are the MSU of the ACC

7/25/2007 2:07:40 PM

yeah, it seems like they can almost copy/paste the MSU entry and make it NCSU's...

7/25/2007 2:08:37 PM

new predictions?

7/25/2007 6:45:11 PM

I said 45th for us....

Just about all of you were sure we wouldn't be top 50.

7/25/2007 8:15:27 PM

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"T-60 Navy 53-64 .453 0 2-2 Paul Johnson has quietly done a terrific job with this program. The Midshipmen have won 33 games in the last four seasons. They are also 8-0 against the other service academies over that same stretch. The one thing Johnson hasn't done, however, is end that losing streak to Notre Dame."

7/25/2007 8:27:05 PM

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"i remember the good old days, when Ray Rob was called butterfingers for dropping the ball a few times, most of them unimportant..."

aha one night at trivia me and nutsmack named the team "ray rob up the middle ray rob up the middle ray rob up the middle PUNT"

[Edited on July 25, 2007 at 8:29 PM. Reason : aha]

7/25/2007 8:28:31 PM

Yeah I think people just remember how shitty we did, and forget that there are a ton of teams that did just as shitty or worse. Im thinking mid-40s too, but I wouldnt be shocked by a high-30s number. For some reason our football team usually gets more credit than it deserves when these type of lists are made.

7/25/2007 8:28:46 PM

^ disagree. We always get shafted.


We have beat some quality teams in the past decade. FSU multiple times, Notre Dame, our bowl records is pretty damned good.

7/25/2007 9:12:37 PM

We have a .562 winning percentage with a 4-2 bowl record in a BCS conference. We've also put some serious studs into the NFL. We are a good bit better than those listed in the 50's. Good chance we crack the 30's.

7/25/2007 10:00:52 PM

you can almost see the chests starting to swell as people realize "wow, this list apparently isn't going to dump on state as much as we'd previously thought"

if only Chuck was still around, his chest would be hitting his chin right now

7/25/2007 11:17:17 PM

if maryland isnt in the top 15 this is a farse

7/26/2007 10:31:31 AM

^that comment almost angered me, then I saw who wrote it.

7/26/2007 10:34:24 AM

^^Sorry, you must have read "ESPN's fattest NCAA football coach of the last decade" rankings.

7/26/2007 10:36:22 AM

^^ truth hurts doesnt it

hahaham, BURN!

7/26/2007 10:38:03 AM

^^ and sadly, the Fridge still only comes in at 2nd or 3d in that list...

hell, i don't know all the coaches, he might fall down to 5th

7/26/2007 10:47:37 AM

Mark Mangino owns Friedgen on that list...but at least it's the one list he has surpassed Weis on.

7/26/2007 10:53:21 AM

Mark Mangini is a fat fuck.

7/26/2007 10:53:27 AM

hahaha exactly point proven

now the the fuck off of this message board

7/26/2007 10:55:36 AM

State at #40

7/26/2007 12:28:25 PM

I'd say that's reasonable.

7/26/2007 1:07:18 PM

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"Good chance we crack the 30's."

I bet we won't be in today's release... or tomorrow's. With the Tarheels that run ESPN, I bet we're below 119.

7/26/2007 5:18:33 PM

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"I said 45th for us.... Just about all of you were sure we wouldn't be top 50. "

i said 36th, and that was only keeping our recent success in the draft in mind

it's just more of the 'expecting the worst' mentality that apparently comes with signing up for Wolfpack Nation

7/27/2007 8:10:46 AM

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"Oeuvre All American 1866 Posts user info edit post 41 "

How bout that pick?

7/27/2007 8:21:53 AM

[Edited on July 27, 2007 at 8:33 AM. Reason : balls]

7/27/2007 8:33:45 AM

usc being 1 is basically bullshit

they play in one of the weakest bcs conferences and they only have 1 NC not 2.

7/27/2007 7:42:14 PM

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"26 Georgia Tech 79-46 .632 1 conf. 5-5 The Yellow Jackets have only one 10-victory season since sharing the 1990 national championship with Colorado. Georgia Tech went 10-2 in 1998 and shared the ACC title under former coach George O'Leary. Coach Chan Gailey has a 37-27 record in five seasons, but has been dogged by his team's inability to beat its biggest rivals. Last season's 7-1 mark in ACC games was a breakthrough -- but the Jackets still finished 9-5. 27 UCLA 74-47 .612 2 conf. 3-4 The Bruins came within one victory of playing for the national championship in 1998 -- UCLA lost to Miami 49-45 in the regular-season finale and then lost to Wisconsin 38-31 in the Rose Bowl. UCLA has struggled to find that level of excellence ever since, with only one 10-win campaign in the ensuing eight seasons. The Bruins' biggest obstacle has been crosstown rival USC, which has a 7-1 record against UCLA since 1999. 28 Utah 76-41 .650 3 conf. 6-0 The Utes were the first team from a non-BCS conference to play in a BCS bowl game, finishing 12-0 and beating Pittsburgh in the Fiesta Bowl during the 2004 season. Former coach Urban Meyer parlayed that dream season into a job at Florida. The Utes haven't had the same success under successor Kyle Whittingham, who is 15-10 in two seasons, but they might be poised for another big season in 2007. 29 Texas A&M 73-50 .594 1 conf. 1-5 The Aggies finally ended a dubious trifecta of unsightly droughts last season, finishing with a winning record, beating Texas and playing in an upper-tier bowl game for the first time since 1999. But coach Dennis Franchione still hasn't produced the types of campaigns the Aggies enjoyed under former coach R.C. Slocum, who went 42-5-1 from 1991 to 1994. Franchione is 25-22 in four years in College Station and still might not be off the hot seat. 30 Arkansas 71-51 .582 0 2-6 Razorbacks coach Houston Nutt has guided his teams to two appearances in the SEC championship game, losing badly each time, and has won 67 games in nine seasons. That hasn't been enough for starved Hogs fans, who have watched their program struggle to achieve the same success it found in the former Southwest Conference. 31 Clemson 70-51 .579 0 3-5 ACC expansion has largely turned the Tigers into conference also-rans, as they haven't won a league title in 16 years. Coach Tommy Bowden has won 60 games in eight seasons at Clemson, leading the Tigers to a bowl game in all but one year. But the Tigers notoriously have fallen short of lofty expectations during his tenure, including last season's disappointing 8-5 record. 32 Texas Tech 75-48 .610 0 4-4 Coach Mike Leach has transformed the Red Raiders into a high-scoring, entertaining juggernaut with his pass-happy offense. Texas Tech has won 56 games since 2000 -- only Oklahoma, Texas and Nebraska have won more games among Big 12 Conference teams. Leach has led his teams to seven straight bowl games -- the longest streak by a Texas Tech coach -- and won four of the last five postseason games. But Texas Tech's inability to play defense has prevented it from being a serious Big 12 contender during Leach's tenure. 33 Purdue 75-49 .605 1 conf. 3-6 After Joe Tiller led the Boilermakers to a Big Ten Conference championship in 2000, his program seemed to level off. Purdue has won seven games or fewer in three of the last five seasons, but had an 8-6 record last season. Since quarterback Drew Brees helped guide the Boilermakers to their first Rose Bowl in 34 years in 2001, they've largely become a middle-of-the-pack team in the Big Ten without him."

7/29/2007 12:20:24 PM

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"34 Alabama 67-55 .549 1 conf. 3-4 One of college football's most storied programs has been besieged by NCAA probation, scandal and controversy during much of the 21st century. The Crimson Tide were saddled by scholarship reductions for rules violations committed under former coach Mike Dubose, then lost a pair of coaches within a few months when Dennis Franchione left for Texas A&M and Mike Price was fired for off-field transgressions. Former quarterback Mike Shula was fired after a 6-7 finish in 2006, then the school gave Miami Dolphins coach Nick Saban a $4 million salary to resurrect the program. 35 California 55-63 .466 1 conf. 3-1 One of the fastest-rising programs in the country, California hopes to stay on the fast track by giving coach Jeff Tedford a contract extension through 2013. The Bears went 1-10 the season before Tedford arrived in Berkeley, and they've won 43 games during his five seasons on the sideline. 36 Maryland 65-53 .551 1 conf. 3-1 Terrapins coach Ralph Friedgen has stabilized his alma mater, winning more games in his first six seasons (50) than the Terrapins won during the 10 seasons prior to his arrival (37). In 2001, he guided the Terps to their first ACC title since 1985 and won 21 games in his first two seasons. After a two-year hiatus from the postseason, Maryland was back on track with a 9-4 finish in 2006. 37 Oregon State 69-51 .575 1 conf. 4-2 The Beavers have a very mediocre history -- only the 2000 team, which finished 11-1 and beat Notre Dame in the Fiesta Bowl, has won more than 10 games in a season. Oregon State has won only a share of one conference title since the Pac-10 expanded to 10 teams in 1978. But coach Mike Riley seems close to producing a more stable program in his second stint at the school. He guided the Beavers to a 10-4 finish in 2006, including an upset of USC and win over Missouri in the Sun Bowl. 38 Fresno State 76-51 .598 1 conf. 3-4 During much of coach Pat Hill's tenure at Fresno State, the Bulldogs haven't been afraid to take on big-name opponents. But after narrowly losing to USC during the 2005 season, Fresno State has struggled mightily since. The Bulldogs won only 12 games in the last two seasons combined, losing eight of their last 12 games. But Hill set the standard for mid-major teams trying to break through, winning 38 games in four seasons until the recent struggles. 39 Southern Miss 78-45 .634 3 conf. 6-3 The Golden Eagles might be the blueprint for any non-BCS school that wants to build a successful football program. Under coach Jeff Bower, Southern Miss had a winning record in each of the last 13 seasons and played in bowl games in nine of the last 10. The Eagles have won at least a share of a conference title five times since 1996 and have never finished lower than fifth place in the Conference USA standings. 40 North Carolina State 68-53 .562 0 4-2 The Wolfpack had nearly two dozen NFL draft picks during former coach Chuck Amato's tenure, but won only 23 games in his last four seasons combined. After losing quarterback Phillip Rivers to the NFL draft, the Wolfpack endured losing seasons in two of Amato's last three seasons. Former Boston College coach Tom O'Brien was hired to bring stability and discipline to the program. 41 Arizona State 67-54 .553 0 3-4 The Sun Devils might be considered one of the most underachieving programs in the country given its desirable location and proximity to the fertile recruiting grounds of California. But since quarterback Jake Plummer led Arizona State to the Rose Bowl, the Sun Devils are just 13 games over .500. They had only two seasons with more than eight victories during that stretch. Dennis Erickson, who won a pair of national titles at Miami, tries find the same magic in the desert. 42 Marshall 88-37 .704 5 conf. 5-2 The Thundering Herd were college football's little engine that could during the 1990s with the highest winning percentage of any Division I-A program. Marshall played in bowl games in seven of its first nine seasons in Division I-A and had 21 straight winning seasons. But the Thundering Herd finished 4-7 in coach Mark Snyder's first season in 2005 and went 5-7 last year. 43 Virginia 71-51 .582 0 3-4 There's no question coach Al Groh has upgraded the talent level and interest in Virginia football during his six seasons as coach of his alma mater. But the former New York Jets coach has failed to elevate the Cavaliers to the upper echelon of the ACC, with a 25-23 mark in conference play. The Cavaliers had 20 players drafted by NFL teams since 2002, but have failed to play in a New Year's Day bowl game under Groh. 44 BYU 72-51 .585 3 conf. 1-4 The Cougars fell on hard times following the retirement of legendary coach LaVell Edwards, who led BYU to 20 conference titles and a national championship. After enduring three straight losing seasons under former coach Gary Crowton -- the program's worst streak of futility since six losing seasons in a row from 1959-64 -- the Cougars have found success under Bronco Mendenhall. BYU went 6-6 in his first season in 2005, then won the Mountain West and went 11-2 in 2006. 45 Washington State 65-53 .551 2 conf. 2-1 From 2001-03, the Cougars became the first Pac-10 team in 70 years to win 10 games or more in three straight seasons. But after Mike Price left for Alabama, Washington State struggled mightily. Coach Bill Doba has a 25-22 record in four seasons, winning only 15 games the past three seasons combined. T-46 Ole Miss 65-54 .546 0 5-1 The Rebels fired former coach David Cutcliffe after he produced winning seasons in five of six years on the job. His replacement, Ed Orgeron, has gone 7-16 in two seasons. After former quarterback Eli Manning led the Rebels to a 10-3 record and share of the SEC West title in 2003, they've gone 11-23 without him. T-46 South Carolina 54-63 .462 0 3-1 Getting the Gamecocks to the top of the rugged SEC East might be a tougher challenge for Steve Spurrier than winning at Duke. The Gamecocks have won eight games in a season only nine times in more than 100 years of playing football. Spurrier went 8-5 in his second season at South Carolina and the team's 44-36 win over Houston in the AutoZone Liberty Bowl was only the program's fourth victory in a bowl game. 48 Colorado State 76-47 .618 3 conf. 3-4 Coach Sonny Lubick put the Rams on college football's map, winning 91 games in his first 11 seasons at the school. Colorado State had won only 47 games in the 11 seasons combined before Lubick arrived. He guided Colorado State to six conference titles and nine bowl games from 1994 to 2003. But the Rams have leveled off in each of the past three seasons, winning six games or fewer each year. 49 Colorado 59-64 .480 1 conf. 3-1 The Buffaloes still are recovering from the scandals that drove former coach Gary Barnett out of town. Coach Dan Hawkins went 2-10 in his first season in Boulder, after going 53-11 in five seasons at Boise State. It might be a few more seasons before the Buffaloes are really competitive in the Big 12 again. 50 Miami (Ohio) 75-43 .636 1 1-1 The RedHawks quietly amassed one of the best winning percentages in college football during the late 1990s before enduring a 9-14 mark the past two seasons combined. Miami produced one of the best seasons in recent memory in 2002, when quarterback Ben Roethlisberger led the RedHawks to a 13-1 record and its first MAC title since 1986."

7/29/2007 12:20:47 PM

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"RANK TEAM RECORD WIN % TITLES BOWL RECORD 1 USC 90-35 .720 2 national; 5 conf. 4-3 Tradition, a talent pool that is local and deep, a coach who is both football smart and people smart, and a national identity among recruits as the "it" school: The Trojans have it all. 2 Ohio State 97-28 .776 1 national; 4 conf. 5-4 There may be eight Division I-A schools in the state, but there's only one that rules it from Toledo to Cincinnati. Coach Jim Tressel has polished the Buckeyes program to a fine sheen. 3 Texas 98-28 .778 1 national; 1 conf. 6-4 Vast resources and vaster tradition. Coach Mack Brown has brought back the Darrell Royal touch with the common folk, and he wins like Royal, too. 4 Florida 94-32 .746 1 national; 2 conf. 5-5 Were it not for the three moderately successful Ron Zook years, the Gators would be ranked higher. Only a strong program could rebound as quickly as Florida did. 5 Oklahoma 95-33 .742 1 national; 4 conf. 4-4 The Sooners won one national championship and played for two others. Even after vacating eight victories at the NCAA's behest, coach Bob Stoops is averaging nearly 10 wins a year. 6 Michigan 96-28 .774 1 national; 5 conf. 5-5 The Wolverines have won a national championship and played in four Rose Bowls in the past decade. Now, if they can only figure out how to beat the Buckeyes again. 7 Florida State 96-31 .756 1 national; 7 conf. 5-5 They got to this ranking by traveling in the wrong direction. The Seminoles' 14-year streak of top-five finishes ended in 2000. 8 Miami 94-29 .764 1 national; 4 conf. 7-2 Like their archrivals at No. 7, the Hurricanes have fallen, although more gently. Since winning the 2001 title, Miami has won fewer games in each of the past five seasons than in the season before. 9 LSU 86-38 .694 1 national; 2 conf. 6-2 Les Miles has continued the winning begun by Nick Saban, but these 10 years began with mediocre teams under Gerry DiNardo. 10 Tennessee 94-32 .746 1 national; 2 conf. 3-6 The Volunteers won it all in 1998 and have won or tied for three SEC East titles since. Downside: They haven't played in a BCS game in eight years. 11 Georgia 96-30 .762 2 conf. 8-2 The Bulldogs won under Jim Donnan and have won more under Mark Richt. They have played in three of the past five SEC Championship Games. 12 Virginia Tech 95-31 .754 2 conf. 4-6 The Hokies have been consistent winners under Frank Beamer, yet with the big exception of 1999, they have consistently fallen just shy of greatness. T-13 Nebraska 94-34 .734 1 national; 2 conf. 5-4 The Huskers shared the 1997 national championship with Michigan. Frank Solich maintained the success for four seasons, but they haven't been the Mighty Huskers since. T-13 Wisconsin 89-38 .701 2 conf. 6-3 Barry Alvarez built something out of nothing at Madison. Nice bookends: After consecutive Rose Bowl victories in the 1998 and 1999 seasons, the Badgers went 12-1 last season under first-year coach Bret Bielema. 15 Auburn 84-40 .677 1 conf. 5-3 Auburn spotted the field a two-year head start in this decade, but after that, wow: undefeated in 2004, 33-5 over the last three seasons and a record-tying five straight victories over archrival Alabama."

7/29/2007 12:22:40 PM

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"16 Boise State 97-28 .776 7 conf. 5-2 Texas is the only team to win more games than the Broncos in the last 10 years. Boise State beat Oklahoma, the other Big 12 South power, in the 2007 Fiesta Bowl. That game gave hope to have-nots everywhere. Boise State attempts to win its sixth straight WAC championship this season. 17 Oregon 82-40 .672 2 conf. 4-5 Mike Bellotti built upon the foundation that Rich Brooks set in Eugene, making the Ducks a perennial contender in the Pac-10. Add to that facilities the equal of any in the nation, and you have a top program. 18 Louisville 83-40 .675 4 conf. 3-6 No program has come further in this decade than the Cardinals, who began as a Division I-A have-not and finished as the champion and the anchor of the Big East. 19 West Virginia 76-45 .628 3 conf. 3-5 The Mountaineers tailed off at the end of the Don Nehlen Era, but former WVU player Rich Rodriguez quickly rebuilt the program. West Virginia always has been known for its devoted fans. Now it's known for its unique -- and explosive -- offense. 20 Kansas State 88-38 .698 1 conf. 4-4 Who could imagine Kansas State rebuilding? Bill Snyder turned the ne'er-do-wells into a Big 12 powerhouse, peaking with three North titles and the 2003 conference championship. Ron Prince is the rebuilder, but in facilities Snyder made possible before retiring in 2005. 21 Penn State 74-47 .612 1 conf. 4-2 Joe Paterno may be ancient, but the Nittany Lions have been as mercurial as a teenager. Plenty of downs and some big ups (the 2005 Big Ten conference championship). And the fans, all six figures worth, continue to fill Beaver Stadium. 22 Boston College 76-45 .628 1 conf. 7-1 Tom O'Brien turned the Eagles into a consistent winner, but they rank this high for what they did off the field. Moving from the Big East to the ACC solidified the program economically. The competitive consequences will be interesting to watch. 23 Notre Dame 75-47 .615 0 0-7 The Irish have endured their rockiest decade since the pre-Ara Parseghian years: two fired coaches, no national championship contenders, and who could believe they would go a decade without winning a bowl game? However, love or hate, the Irish remain America's Team. 24 TCU 80-40 .667 4 conf. 5-3 The Horned Frogs have come a long way: moving from the WAC to Conference USA to the Mountain West and thriving in all three. Despite playing in a league without a guaranteed BCS berth, Gary Patterson has turned TCU into a perennial threat to grab one. 25 Iowa 65-56 .537 2 conf. 3-4 Kirk Ferentz has molded the Hawkeyes into a reflection of their fans: hardworking and straightforward. From the depths of the end of the Hayden Fry Era, the Hawkeyes won a share of two Big Ten championships and have played in bowls for six consecutive seasons."

7/29/2007 12:23:09 PM

I'm good with that

7/29/2007 5:08:33 PM

THERE IS NO DEBATE!!! THE SEMINOLES HAVE BEEN THE BEST TEAM OF THE LAST DECADE

7/29/2007 7:18:27 PM

^god i hate those girls......but i love those boobs

7/29/2007 7:38:59 PM

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7/29/2007 8:14:33 PM

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"usc being 1 is basically bullshit they play in one of the weakest bcs conferences and they only have 1 NC not 2."

As long as there is no playoff and we have this POS bowl system and all the bigshots schedule I-AA teams and never schedule anyone hard OOC, it will always pay off to play in a weak BCS conference.

7/29/2007 8:17:19 PM

lost to oregon state and UCLA, but still managed to beat the shit out of michigan. crazy ole pac 10.

7/29/2007 8:19:56 PM

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"35 California 55-63 .466 1 conf. 3-1"

I know Cal has been better the last couple of years....but with a losing record how do they belong where they are at?

7/29/2007 8:50:24 PM

simple like someone said earlier, it's more about what you have done for me lately in these ESPN hype rankings. if it was just based on collective results from the past 10 years then FSU would be way above UF. I mean 7 conference championships in 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2002, 2003, 2005 is better than 2 conference championships in 2000 and 2006. UF only has 7 conference championships in their entire existence (same # as NC State just to let you know). also FSU had a Heisman winner in 1999. FSU has 15 conference championships, despite being an independent for 40 years (1951-1991).

7/30/2007 12:16:05 AM