Not only did Big L get shot the fuck up.

His brother got murked up on the same street.

Thats some fuckin casualties of a dice game right there.

Straight hilarious shit

8/9/2007 6:58:46 PM

you lost when you said Big L was mediocre

8/9/2007 7:00:20 PM

Don't tell anyone, but it was me that shot Big L

his last words were not in the face


I have poor listening skills but good aim

8/9/2007 7:02:26 PM

jay raps about shit big L would actually do

not that that necessarily has anything to do with rap skills but its another reason why jay-z is a fake bitch

v well thanks so much for posting in it

8/9/2007 7:04:06 PM

i dont see posts from people i respect, so i wont bother reading the thread.

8/9/2007 7:04:19 PM

yea but Jay should Nas his first Tec on tour with Large Professor

8/9/2007 7:06:29 PM

Large Pro is another rapper I like better than Jay

and when Jay was 12 he never went to hell for snuffin Jesus

8/9/2007 7:10:16 PM

thats a helluva claim to make on your first track

[Edited on August 9, 2007 at 7:13 PM. Reason : wouldn't that make nas jewish?]

8/9/2007 7:13:29 PM

then a couple years later a ~15 year old Bizzy Bone killed the devil again

8/9/2007 7:17:16 PM

I think its wild if i see someone pass out in the kiddie pool at a bbq, but running into someone responsible for murdering a messiah, thats kinda out there

8/9/2007 7:20:53 PM

but he has been resurrected before

my penis rise up in the morning like a phoenix

8/9/2007 7:23:05 PM

Quote :

"blueprint was failed from the start"

5 mic's out of 5 by source magazine. It's a great album all the way through. I even like it better than reasonable doubt. That being said, it still doesn't touch illmatic.

Quote :

"let alone neptunes beats that make chicks dance in the club dont make you a good lyricst, they make you a good businessman"

The neptunes produced exactly zero songs on the blueprint.

[Edited on August 10, 2007 at 9:12 AM. Reason : ?]

8/10/2007 9:07:54 AM

Who is a better emcee between Nas and Jay-Z?

It Ain't Hard to Tell

8/10/2007 9:26:11 AM

cough up a lung

where im from

Marcy son

aint nothin nice

im up the block

around the corner

and down the street

from where the pimps prostitutes and the drug lords meet

8/10/2007 9:58:48 AM

If I had to rate the 2 albums in question, it'd be:

Illmatic - 9
Reasonable Doubt - 8

Also, It Was Written - 8

Since then, I haven't liked much by either of them.

IMO, Nas by a margin.

8/10/2007 10:06:09 AM

It Was Written has some of the best rhymes ever put to paper as well - try I Gave You Power or Take It In Blood, for example.

One of Jay-Z's first ever recorded verses was on a Big L/DITC track - Da Graveyard - and it's like the worst fucking verse on the song. Reasonable Doubt was a classic, but give me Showbiz, AG, Big L, Lord Finesse, any of those cats any day.

8/10/2007 11:22:06 AM

Quote :

"and it's like the worst fucking verse on the song whole Lifestyles ov da Poor and Dangerous album"

for real...on the graveyard he's on his old fast shit where he's basically just bitin Big L on "Put It On"..."walk through your hood armed with nothin but a rep"...i thought real gangstas held heat on the regular

8/10/2007 11:27:35 AM

Quote :

"and it's like the second-worst fucking verse on the song whole Lifestyles ov da Poor and Dangerous album"

Fixed it for ya. Cam'ron's got a verse on track 4 (whatever the other collaboration track is) under the name "Killa Cam." I think Big L actually got shot for releasing that guy on the rap world.

8/10/2007 11:33:23 AM

haha yeah was Mase Murder on that album too? cant remember...course I dont mind Cam's verse on 8 iz Enough...its 100x better than his new pink lamborghini fag shit

8/10/2007 11:37:22 AM

Ether was a much better battle track tho.

8/10/2007 1:09:36 PM

^definitely...that and real mothafuckin g's by easy e is my favorite diss songs ever

8/10/2007 9:01:17 PM

^half of that Eazy E album was diss tracks to Dre haha

8/10/2007 9:49:50 PM

tree u called reasonable doubt a "solid album" when most consider it classic wtF?? i enjoy the blueprint more than reasonable doubt so i think that should be listed as a classic as well.

even if you rate illmatic as better than those 2 combined nobody considers any of his other albums worth a damn let alone a classic. if you have any more questions please reference verse 3 of the take over

I know you missin all the - FAAAAAAAME!
But along with celebrity comes bout seventy shots to your brain
Nigga; you a - LAAAAAAAME!
Youse the fag model for Karl Kani/Esco ads
Went from, Nasty Nas to Esco's trash
Had a spark when you started but now you're just garbage
Fell from top ten to not mentioned at all
to your bodyguard's "Oochie Wally" verse better than yours
Matter fact you had the worst flow on the whole fuckin song
but I know - the sun don't shine, then son don't shine
That's why your - LAAAAAAAME! - career come to a end
There's only so long fake thugs can pretend
Nigga; you ain't live it you witnessed it from your folks pad
You scribbled in your notepad and created your life
I showed you your first tek on tour with Large Professor
(Me, that's who!) Then I heard your album bout your tek on your dresser
So yeah I sampled your voice, you was usin it wrong
You made it a hot line, I made it a hot song
And you ain't get a coin nigga you was gettin fucked and
I know who I paid God, Serchlite Publishing
Use your - BRAAAAAAAIN! You said you been in this ten
I've been in it five - smarten up Nas
Four albums in ten years nigga? I can divide
That's one every let's say two, two of them shits was doo
One was - AHHH, the other was "Illmatic"
That's a one hot album every ten year average
And that's so - LAAAAAAAME! Nigga switch up your flow
Your shit is garbage, but you try and kick knowledge?
(Get the fuck outta here) You niggaz gon' learn to respect the king
Don't be the next contestant on that Summer Jam screen
Because you know who (who) did you know what (what)
with you know who (yeah) but just keep that between me and you for now

/thread

8/10/2007 9:57:14 PM

Do I really want to jump in this argument...nah...

8/10/2007 11:07:41 PM

thank god

lol j/k

8/10/2007 11:12:25 PM

Quote :

"blueprint was failed from the start...i mean fuck he couldnt even come up with an original album title...let alone neptunes beats that make chicks dance in the club dont make you a good lyricst, they make you a good businessman"

Too bad Pharrel had really nothing to do with the Blueprint. That was Kanye that had his touch all over the album.

And cant yall see that he's fake, the rap version of TD Jakes, prophecizin on yalls cd's and tapes?

It's gotta hurt he's Nas' baby mommas favorite rapper.

8/11/2007 10:06:07 AM

and the black album had more than 2 good songs on it

8/11/2007 11:15:50 AM

there might have been a 3rd but its debateable....that cd made me hate jay z cause it was supposed to be his "last" album and it was such a let down

8/11/2007 5:42:01 PM

Quote :

"Do I really want to jump in this argument...nah..."

8/11/2007 6:34:00 PM

Quote :

"thank god"

8/11/2007 6:35:15 PM

^^^you cannot say that the black album was a let down. So many good beats/lyrics on that shit. OK, so a few of the songs might seem a little too commercial, but damn the others are so solid.

8/12/2007 10:51:14 AM

oh no no no...i can DEFINITELY say it was a let down

i know this cause i listened to it...and was let down




put it this way...the only song i burnt to a cd was moment of clarity

8/12/2007 11:06:46 AM

put it this way, jay-z is garbage

8/12/2007 11:37:43 AM

he aint garbage but hes overrated like a mf

8/12/2007 12:11:22 PM

If I had to be total garbage or completely overrated at what I do but still be worth a few hundred million and fucking Beyonce... I think I'd take it.

8/12/2007 3:33:41 PM

hypnotized minds is your favorite record label

your music opinion is moot

but i digress

Quote :

"Do I really want to jump in this argument...nah..."

[Edited on August 12, 2007 at 3:48 PM. Reason : ]

8/12/2007 3:47:35 PM

no offense but the black album was such a big let down

i was like wtf, you gonna end on this? prolly why he came back, cause he knew that album was such a let down

8/12/2007 4:29:22 PM

ahah why is it an offense, i didnt make it

8/12/2007 4:42:34 PM

lol cause your name is "j_hova"

8/12/2007 4:45:27 PM

i'm not knockin on the women he pulls or what he's worth or his good business sense...but with most of his albums he didnt even seem like he was trying

8/12/2007 6:27:43 PM

for the sake of arguing, define an album where the artist is trying

cause, as keeping on topic, Nas came off the same way after a while

i mean

SHOORTTYYYY SAY WHATS YO PRICE

give me a break, thats bout worse than anything jay-z has done

8/12/2007 7:03:24 PM

dont want to sound too cliche, but jay seemed to put the large majority of his shit out as a product to make money off of...nas seemed to put a higher percentage of his shit out with heart and soul and effort

and he's just a bette emcee

8/12/2007 7:07:12 PM

well he is half man half amazing. what do you expect?

8/12/2007 7:08:48 PM

^^ hahah this argument has been done to death, you can't help but sound cliche'

lets say we agree to this

Nas is the better MC on some introspective, deep thought, smoke a blunt to type shit
Jay-Z is the better MC on getting clubs/parties rockin, a lil introspective/deep when he wants to be, and get drunk and holla at some skee-os too

plus jay-z is a BUSINESS, man, hahah

they were both at the top of their game at one point, but ask kids nowadays and lil wayne and jim jones blow em out the water, so any of this to those types of folk is all a moot point

one thing that killed me that i never expected you to say tree is that

Quote :

"jay raps about shit big L would actually do not that that necessarily has anything to do with rap skills but its another reason why jay-z is a fake bitch"

please tell me you meant shit big L would seem like he would actually do, i hate hearing people claim a rapper is "fake" because they rap about gun bustin but wouldn't do shit, as I'm sure the majority of em wouldn't

then you have big lurch outta houston that was on PCP and partially ate a chick, but thats a different story

[Edited on August 12, 2007 at 7:15 PM. Reason : .]

8/12/2007 7:13:16 PM

Quote :

"Nas is the better MC on some introspective, deep thought, smoke a blunt to type shit Jay-Z is the better MC on getting clubs/parties rockin, a lil introspective/deep when he wants to be, and get drunk and holla at some skee-os too"

and i'll give jay his niche with getting the women dancing but i dont want to chill at the crib with that garbage on


^i think theres plenty of evidence that Big L was living that lifestyle

and Nas never claimed to, he basically admits he talks about the shit he [i]sees[/s] as far as murder and stuff

and if Jay was runnin shit like he said how come when he knocked over my boy's glass of water at Friday's and my boy stepped to him he backed off like a punk?

[Edited on August 12, 2007 at 7:19 PM. Reason : .]

8/12/2007 7:16:52 PM

jay did too in an interview

thought nas is a far better storyteller, he's far from wack as you call him out to be

and why is it that other rappers say "best rapper alive since the best rapper retired" and shit like that, when they aren't saying "the best rapper alive since biggie and pac died" that is

ahah and if your story about your boy is true, then ya boy is a stan for tryna buck on a spilled glass of water. but lets keep this argument rooted in the realms of reality for the sake of those that didn't get their glass knocked over by jay-z

[Edited on August 12, 2007 at 7:21 PM. Reason : .]

8/12/2007 7:19:46 PM

cause those rappers are trying to get down with jay and get paid...doesnt have anything to do with his rhyme skills

and i dont blame them for wanting money cause everybody does but theres a difference in skills and success

and nah that shit with the water happened in like 98...and jay was rollin with a big crew...course if you think hes actually some kind of gangsta...........

[Edited on August 12, 2007 at 7:23 PM. Reason : .]

8/12/2007 7:20:40 PM

now when you argue the difference between skills and success the points become skewed because you got kids like soulja boy and dj unk going off the charts, and ill be damned if you lump him in with that crowd

8/12/2007 7:22:54 PM

Quote :

"when you argue the difference between skills and success the points become skewed"

so Trent Dilfer is better than Dan Marino

8/12/2007 7:24:59 PM

now you're just taking it and runnin with it, and I remember why I stay away from these threads, hahah

[Edited on August 12, 2007 at 7:27 PM. Reason : .]

8/12/2007 7:27:22 PM