get off my nuts faggot

its not trolling to point out the fact that just because somebody chokes in the preseason doesnt mean they're a worthless player

you probably blame john kasay for losing SB38 while at the same time not realizing if it werent for him the panthers wouldnt have even made the playoffs

btw the braves are the a-rod of teams

[Edited on October 11, 2007 at 3:52 PM. Reason : .]

10/11/2007 3:52:15 PM

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10/11/2007 4:07:20 PM

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"I said that FOR HIS PRICE, I don't want to sacrifice good pitching for a single player. Anyone who wants to even try to acquire A-Rod on the Braves' current salary cap is fucking stupid and trolling."

i don't give a shit how much the cubs pay him, it would be awesome to have him on the team

10/11/2007 5:14:06 PM

If I were a Cubs fan, I'd rather that money be spent on 3 solid quality players than 1 mega-money quality player.

10/11/2007 7:30:16 PM

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"rafael belliard is the worst baseball player ever"

10/11/2007 7:39:33 PM

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"Klapisch: Mets may go for A-Rod Tuesday, October 30, 2007 By BOB KLAPISCH RECORD COLUMNIST While the Yankee hierarchy and Major League Baseball reacted with outrage at Alex Rodriguez's decision to opt out of his contract on the night of Game 4 of the World Series, the Mets didn't seem to have a problem with it. In fact, early indicators suggest the Mets are leaning toward a full metal jacket courtship of the slugger, pending David Wright's blessing. This is no small obstacle, since ownership is wary of offending Flushing's most marketable and loyal star. "We already have a third baseman," is what one high-ranking official said on Monday. That's the party line -- for now. But the Mets are well aware that Wright volunteered in spring training to switch positions if it meant luring A-Rod to Flushing. The story was first reported in The Record on March 4. Club officials plan to ask Wright if he still feels that way. As of Monday night, the Mets' third baseman was noncommittal, waiting to hear from ownership. "Nobody has talked to me about any free agents," Wright wrote in a text message. "I would want to speak with Jeff [Wilpon] and Omar [Minaya] first." Of course, there's no guarantee A-Rod would sign with the Mets, even if Wright moved to, say, second base. Could the Wilpon family write a big enough check? Apparently so. With free agents Tom Glavine ($10.5 million), Shawn Green ($3.7 million), Paul Lo Duca ($6.25 million) and Jose Valentin ($3.8 million) all likely to come off the books, Rodriguez's asking price of $30-something million isn't quite so prohibitive. "We can afford him," one Met insider said confidently. "It's going to be a baseball question more than a money question. Do we want him? Is he a good fit for one team? That's what we have to talk about." Wright seemed to feel Rodriguez was a perfect match -- and that was before A-Rod blasted through the greatest regular season of the last 50 years. Putting aside his insatiable appetite for money and ruthless negotiating tactics, the Mets ultimately will have to decide if A-Rod's 50-plus homers and 150 RBI are worth the tidal wave of controversy that would follow him into the clubhouse. Last March, this is what Wright had to say to reporters: "If Omar [Minaya] or someone from the front office approaches me and says, 'Hey, we're looking, Alex has an interest in coming to Queens,' I'd be the first one to offer to play anywhere they want me to because like I said, a guy like that just makes a team completely better from the get-go." What remains to be seen is whether the Mets' interest would tempt the Yankees to reenter negotiations. It's hard to know who's bluffing and who's not. Friends of Rodriguez believe he would have a sincere interest in playing for the Mets – at the right price, of course – regardless of how it would damage his Yankee legacy. It's worth noting that Rodriguez was house-hunting in Greenwich, Conn., in the last few months, and the idea of staying in New York was seconded by his wife, Cynthia. The other issue is where Wright actually would play. Second base is the obvious choice, but there's nothing that says he could learn the position quickly, if at all. And the wear and tear of turning double plays also might factor into the Mets' thinking. And then there's the dark cloud that seems to dog Rodriguez wherever he goes. You can now count the Yankees as part of the anti-A-Rod army. Despite general manager Brian Cashman's graciously worded statement that bid farewell to the third baseman, the organization's truer feelings were reflected in the comments of one high-ranking official, who was disgusted at the timing of Rodriguez's opt-out on Sunday. Not only did the announcement upstage the World Series, but, as the official said: "He had [agent Scott] Boras tell the media before he told us. That's not right." Asked if the Yankees would use the 15-day window during which they can negotiate exclusively with Rodriguez, the executive said: "No chance. Absolutely none. We're done with him. He'll never play here again" A-Rod and Boras didn't make any friends in the commissioner's office, either. Protocol says that no news is generated during the Series; the industry-wide blackout is observed in deference to the sport's premier event. But Rodriguez was the prime topic of discussion during Fox's broadcast Sunday night, trumping the Red Sox' sweep of the Rockies and their second world championship in four years. "There was no reason to make an announcement [Sunday] night other than to try to put his selfish interests and that of one individual player above the overall good of the game," Bob DuPuy, baseball's chief operating officer, said in an e-mail to The Associated Press. "[Sunday] night and [Monday] belong to the Boston Red Sox, who should be celebrated for their achievement, and to the Colorado Rockies, who made such an unbelievable run to the World Series." One baseball official suggested A-Rod opted out on Sunday because he knew the Yankees were about to hire Joe Girardi, whom he didn't want to play for. So instead of bolting after Girardi's coronation and making it appear he was rejecting the new manager, A-Rod left hours before, under the guise of not having enough time to assess the direction of a team in transition. That ploy may have saved Girardi some embarrassment, but it didn't buy A-Rod good will anywhere else. Except, maybe, in Queens, where the fantasy lingers: just how would those 150 RBI look in the Met lineup, anyway?"

10/30/2007 11:18:17 AM

why would the mets need arod?

they have no problem with choking as is

10/30/2007 11:20:36 AM

10/30/2007 11:22:30 AM

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"a guy like that just makes a team completely better from the get-go."

on paper. Which is why the Yanks fell out of the playoffs like a refrigerator out of an airplane.

10/30/2007 11:25:01 AM

the other 8 guys on that team were powerless to do anything in the wake of a-rod's awesomeness amirite?

10/30/2007 11:27:07 AM

I'm surprised to see some of you still saying the Yankees are in on a-rod.

I don't know how much of a stronger statement they can make...

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""No chance. Absolutely none. We're done with him. He'll never play here again."

A-Rod is done in the bronx.

10/30/2007 11:36:41 AM

^ thats so hilarious.

I say he goes to Boston.

I meant hell they've won 2 Series so crazier shit has happened.

10/30/2007 11:41:51 AM

i think everyone is in agreement that he's done in the bronx

but billy martin told me never to trust a steinbrenner

10/30/2007 11:42:21 AM

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"If I were a Cubs fan, I'd rather that money be spent on 3 solid quality players than 1 mega-money quality player."

I am a Cubs fan, and I agree. The Cubs already have a good 3rd baseman in Aramis Ramirez that just signed a huge contract extension. Ryan Theriot is looking amazing at SS. The Cubs don't need a name like A-Rod to sell out Wrigley, Wrigley does it itself. As much as I'd like the added offensive numbers A-Rod would provide with Ramirez, D-Lee, and Soriano, I'd rather spend the money on the end of the rotation, a closer, or for a veteran catcher to help Soto out.

[Edited on October 30, 2007 at 11:56 AM. Reason : quote]

10/30/2007 11:52:10 AM

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"I'm surprised to see some of you still saying the Yankees are in on a-rod."

I don't see anyone saying that in this thread since A-Rod opted out

10/30/2007 11:56:01 AM

^^Ryan Theriot's regular season numbers this year: 597 PA, .266/.326/.346. He hit 3 frickin' HR's. Not what I'd call "amazing." Unless you're one of those guys that thinks Eckstein is great.

10/30/2007 4:27:59 PM

if arod were to sign with the mets (lolololol) what would happen to reyes or wright?

would reyes move back to second? can wright play first? (is delgado the most overpaid player ever?)

if he signed, would minaya trade reyes or wright to atlanta for pete orr and chad paronto?

10/30/2007 6:58:25 PM

Wright said in May that he would move to 2B in a second if it meant Alex Rodriguez was coming to the Mets. I heard a report on the radio that said the Mets have high interest in A-Rod but were not going to do anything until they confirmed with David Wright that he would still be willing to move...

10/30/2007 7:49:49 PM

have teams still not learned that this guy is just not worth the money he asks? best player in baseball sure, but his teams haven't won shit at all. plus there's that whole bitch slap purse incident against the sox a few years back

10/30/2007 8:09:07 PM

Oh, you master of economics, Boras.

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"Boras is a lot of things but dope isn't one of them and if he is willing to alienate the two bidders you would think he needs - the Yankees and Red Sox - to make the latest A-Rod auction a success, he must either already have his deal in hand or know where it is coming from. It could very well be the Mets, of whom Boras provided a glowing assessment of everyone involved from Omar Minaya to both Wilpons to the hot dog vendors at Shea. He said the Mets were one player shy of "a juggernaut," the type of team that could appear in "six or seven of the next 10 World Series." That player, of course, would be Rodriguez. And a pitcher or two. If there's any money left over. "You can't count Alex against payroll because he pays for himself," Boras said. He then went on to detail the wonders A-Rod would perform for SNY ratings and attendance at Citi Field. Somehow, he stopped short of promising better air quality in Flushing, less noise from LaGuardia Airport and better working conditions for the junkyards of 126th Street. That will be in the treatise. "This is not a baseball decision, it's a business decision," he said. "The Mets are in a rare situation where they can add a player of Alex's performance and he doesn't cost them a thing. To me, this is an easy, easy call.""

Excuse me while I go rub one out to this lineup:

Reyes
Beltran
Wright
ARod
Delgado
Alou
Milledge
Lo Duca

[Edited on October 31, 2007 at 3:50 PM. Reason : x]

10/31/2007 3:46:09 PM

lawl it would makes the annual mets collapse that much more hil-ar-i-ous

10/31/2007 4:17:14 PM

yeah boras, you're a genius

because a brand new ballpark in nyc will have trouble filling up

10/31/2007 4:20:24 PM

Especially one with only 45,000 seats. The Mets average attendance this year was really close to that in decrepit, foul smelling Shea...

But he is right about SNY and this is a crucial time for the Mets to get back the 50% of NY baseball fans who are frontrunners... I always say that it's 25% Mets, 25% Yankees and 50% who ever is in winning more at the time...

10/31/2007 5:00:35 PM

NY just sucks period


Yankees fans suck
Mets fans suck
Giants fans suck
Jets fan are just a joke
Knicks hahahahahahha
Rangers are the only franchise in NY with fans worth a shit

10/31/2007 8:02:27 PM

^and people who root for Tennessee usually are the result of their mother and father also being sister and brother !!

10/31/2007 8:09:18 PM

sigh... thats so weak

10/31/2007 8:12:02 PM

are you handicapped ?

10/31/2007 8:12:14 PM

carbon is an element

10/31/2007 8:25:17 PM

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"Unless you're one of those guys that thinks Eckstein is great."

Eckstein isn't great, but you are comparing him (a .302 hitter this year) to a .266 hitter.

10/31/2007 9:30:43 PM

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"Jets fan are just a joke"

hey. fuck you buddy.

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Its funny to see no one cares about Boston's 2nd title in modern history. But instead its all about where A-rod (and Torre to an extent) will go.

He could go to any of the teams, the do all make sense for different reasons. The only reasons I see him going to the Mets is if they really thought he'd help their lineup, but where are you going to move your position players already there?

10/31/2007 9:39:45 PM

theriot's raw numbers are pretty terrible

but he's really just about the same as eckstein, a league-average singles hitter -- only theriot has even less power

[Edited on October 31, 2007 at 9:46 PM. Reason : but really i'm just splitting hairs, they both suck dong]

10/31/2007 9:42:45 PM

^^ yeah, they are pretty full already, and I just dont seem him wanting to stay in NY... seems like the whole point of leaving the Yankees (aside from even more money of course) is to get out of NY

10/31/2007 9:48:39 PM

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"The only reasons I see him going to the Mets is if they really thought he'd help their lineup, but where are you going to move your position players already there?"

a-rod could help any lineup, so that's a pretty stupid thing to consider

it's the wallet and clubhouse where he might hurt you

and the defensive juggling the mets would have to do was already addressed

10/31/2007 9:50:55 PM

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"Rangers are the only franchise in NY with fans worth a shit"

10/31/2007 10:47:01 PM

^

^^ well the Mets were brought up again SINCE then but thanks for noticing chief.

^^^ I think you're right there tho Jaybee. Why opt of of the one place you know you'll get mad $. I think wanting out of NYC is a good assumption. He can know make probably just as much someplace else without being held accountable.

11/1/2007 10:58:56 AM

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"I think you're right there tho Jaybee. Why opt of of the one place you know you'll get mad $. I think wanting out of NYC is a good assumption. He can know make probably just as much someplace else without being held accountable."

1 Mets fans are not Yankees fans. There is no such thing as a "true Met" and there is no irrational love for a much less talented shortstop that fans tried to measure A-Rod up to.

2 A-Rod grew up a huge Mets fan in NYC and offered the Mets a discount when he initially signed with Texas. Steve Phillips was drunk and banging the office cleaner so he didn't sign him.

3 The Mets can match any offer of anyone and save his reputation of "not being able to make it in New York."

4 The team is built for a championship and I could easily argue has a more impressive young core of players that A-Rod would supplement. The Yankees don't have the PROVEN (Hughes, Joba and Kennedy are far from proven) young core the Mets have in Wright, Reyes, Beltran, Perez and Maine.

A-Rod was going to opt out regardless because he knows he can get more $$$ and more years than the Yankees want. I'm not saying he will sign with the Mets, but there certainly more than enough reasons for him to consider it...

11/1/2007 11:16:44 AM

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"2 A-Rod grew up a huge Mets fan in NYC and offered the Mets a discount when he initially signed with Texas. Steve Phillips was drunk and banging the office cleaner so he didn't sign him."

how do you expect anyone to take you seriously when you post such idiotic homer shit like this

11/1/2007 11:38:20 AM

because it's probably true

steve philips is maybe the worst GM of the past 10 years

11/1/2007 11:43:42 AM

drunk and banging the office cleaner

oooookkkkk

david wright to second base is lolarious. this isn't mvp baseball.



[Edited on November 1, 2007 at 11:48 AM. Reason : .]

11/1/2007 11:46:49 AM

Do you guys not remember when he nearly got fired for banging out a lady in the Mets offices?

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/mlb/news/1998/11/25/mets_phillips/

It's not like I just pulled that out of thin air... as far as ^, David Wright is on record as saying he would gladly move to 2B to make room for A-Rod... I'm not just making shit up.

[Edited on November 1, 2007 at 11:59 AM. Reason : x]

11/1/2007 11:58:13 AM

just because he says he'll move to 2B doesn't mean the mets have solved the infield problem. like I said, this isn't fucking mvp baseball where you just assign a new place for a guy to play...wright does not have the tools/skills required to play middle infield and he'd probably get his shit packed on a consistent basis due to the wear and tear. if you really want to force wright as your 2B, go ahead and watch what happens to one of your future MVP when he gets chopped up day in day out.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/mlb/news/1998/11/25/mets_phillips/ is hilarious and yes steve phillips was inept but I highly doubt the mets would have signed arod had their been another GM in his shoes

(and btw what does this say about ESPN for making steve phillips one of their prime analysts?)

[Edited on November 1, 2007 at 12:04 PM. Reason : .]

11/1/2007 12:02:36 PM

read: "I was completely wrong about calling you out, but I'm still going to argue."

[Edited on November 1, 2007 at 12:03 PM. Reason : ]

11/1/2007 12:02:52 PM

^ read: "I highly doubt the fact that Steve Phillips extramarital affairs had anything to do with signing arod; rather, there was no chance of the mets ever signing him."

ass

11/1/2007 12:04:54 PM

It was mainly the Wilpon's inability to pony up for a player actually worth it during those years that was the reason A-Rod didn't sign with the Mets -- same as why no legitimate offer was made to Vlad -- but I didn't want to miss a chance to mention Steve Phillips and the cleaning lady (like Costanza on Seinfeld)...

Now that the Wilpon's have shown they'll give deserving players longterm huge deals it's not far fetched.

and ^^^ is right. The main worry is the inexperience at turning the DP. That is the most dangerous play in baseball and if you consistently do it incorrectly there is a good chance you can get torn up, no doubt... but this will all work it's way out if the talks get heavier.

[Edited on November 1, 2007 at 12:09 PM. Reason : x]

11/1/2007 12:07:24 PM

nobody wanted to pony up for arod at the time, that's why everyone was like "wtf texas?" at the end of the whole ordeal. now things are a lot different

11/1/2007 12:09:31 PM

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"There is no such thing as a "true Met" and there is no irrational love for a much less talented shortstop that fans tried to measure A-Rod up to."

Man, please don't bring that weak ass media shit in here. there is no such thing as a true Yankee. How fucking arbitrary is that?

Also if he's in NYC he'll be subject to NY's media. What do you think that people in Queens are easier on superstars because they haven't won shit since 1986? No. They would be just as hard IF NOT worse with A-rod getting $40 million a year. Seriously, it doesn't matter who's built for a championship, b/c your right in the end, he's going to go where the most money is.

And as for Steve Phillips. I seriously and deeply hate him as a analyst. Its like he has it out for the Yankees and Mets every time they play. It drives me insane. You fucked up, got shown the door, and the hacks at ESPN thought for some god awful reason "hey lets hire this degenerate manager". Lucky us.

Willie is 100x the manager he is. Bobby V like times infinity.

11/1/2007 11:11:18 PM

you probably shouldn't post in baseball threads if you don't know the difference between a manager and a general manager

11/1/2007 11:13:17 PM

I like Phillips as an analyst










































































huh huh huh huh "anal" huh huh huh

11/2/2007 4:23:23 PM

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"you probably shouldn't post in baseball threads if you don't know the difference between a manager and a general manager"

honestly what the hell are you talking about?

quit trolling this thread and me now that twista left. christ.

11/2/2007 8:30:29 PM

so A-rod wants $350 million minimum.

i honestly weep for the sport.

how many MLB teams could you buy with that $?

11/2/2007 11:19:31 PM