UVA is fucking overrated, they didnt play anyone remotely good this yr and they only had a good game against Pit of all placesss......

their offense is a joke and defense is their only shining point, as long as we shut down peerman and make that lil bitch sewell pass....we will win.

NCSU- 28
UVA- 17

10/24/2007 4:10:26 PM

they ARE overrated but we're not great

NCSU: 24
UVA: 23/24/25...pick one

10/24/2007 4:18:41 PM

Virginia wins by double digits easily.

UVA -3 is a hell of bargain.

10/24/2007 4:21:15 PM

When was the last time NCSU beat a team that started a black QB?

Just curious because we never seem to do well again them.

10/24/2007 4:26:48 PM

if we can trap chris long like TOB did to his daddy then we might have a chance

10/24/2007 4:27:33 PM

^^ we beat Ga. Tech two years ago when they had Reggie Ball starting at qb. The year before that we beat Va. Tech when Brian Randall was starting at qb. Those are the two most recent that come to mind.

10/24/2007 5:38:56 PM

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"we beat Ga. Tech two years ago when they had Reggie Ball starting at qb"

ha, that's not saying very much

10/24/2007 5:43:21 PM

VA 28
State 10

10/24/2007 5:43:24 PM

^^ Yeah, but I don't think Sewell is that much better.

10/24/2007 5:45:29 PM

Random question but does anyone know what time the UNC game is going to be??? Or have they not announced it yet? I heard 12 but I'm hoping that was just a guess

10/24/2007 6:48:53 PM

prolly gonna be 12 and its more than likely gonna be RLF

if not, the coach has the choice and TOB has said many times he prefers the early games because you dont have to wait around and the kids get more time to spend with family afterwards.

so either a 12 or 1 start more than likely

10/24/2007 6:57:12 PM

i hate noon games so much

10/24/2007 6:59:16 PM

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"UVA -3 is a hell of bargain."

So was ECU

10/24/2007 7:07:32 PM

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"i hate noon games so much "

i hate them more

10/24/2007 7:15:21 PM

not related to this game but i found it funny.. scroll down to #76

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_football_stadiums_by_capacity

10/24/2007 11:36:26 PM

WE BEAT UNC BY 1!!!!

They never have 2/3 of their so called "attendance". We actually fill ours. Look at UVA right ahead of us.

10/25/2007 12:05:27 AM

its quality not quanitiy

10/25/2007 12:50:22 AM

wouldnt quantity be affected by quality?

the more fans the more supportive therefore the higher quality product.

might wanna retract that now huh?

10/25/2007 1:18:30 AM

Wow, our team played their fannies off to beat one team with a lot of non qualifiers and you people are starting to predict wins all over the place.




[Edited on October 25, 2007 at 10:20 AM. Reason : Dairy Queen]

10/25/2007 10:20:01 AM

Pack to win the national championship. you heard it hear first.

10/25/2007 10:35:25 AM

Quote :

"its quality not quanitiy"

Well if that's the case, then we would beat UNC on both accounts.

10/25/2007 10:44:46 AM

I'm optimistic about this game, but I'm worried about the health of poor Daniel Evans. I'm praying Chris Long doesn't have a career game.

http://www.roanoke.com/sports/uvafootball/wb/137142

10/25/2007 11:15:00 AM

I expect to see us moving the pocket a lot, and setting up a few screens to protect Evans (or whoever is in at QB).

The good news is if we don't turn the ball over, Virginia doesn't have the offensive firepower to generate points on their own. The bad news is that has been a big issue for us. Hopefully we can do a good job covering the flats, while continuing to spy Sewell to minimize the scrambling plays. If we do that our defense should be in good shape.

10/25/2007 11:29:16 AM

Do we not have anyone that can play QB at all? Besides Beck/Evans.

Is there no one else we can like just try for 3 plays.

We should copy Arkansas's offense and do the Wildcat formation.

Spice up the season.

10/25/2007 2:14:59 PM

Yeah Evans played so bad last week. 335 yards and 3 TDs and 1 INT that went through a receiver's hands. He sucks.

My God some of you will never be pleased.

^Arkansas is sucking ass this year with the best running back in the country. Houston Nutt might get fired. Let's follow that strategy.

10/25/2007 2:37:31 PM

^^Please stop posting in sports talk. Clearly you have the sports knowledge and opinion of a 14 year old girl.

"Hey I know what would be cool, why don't we wear rainbow shirts just for this game and carry super soakers and just wet the other team all game long, just for fun."

How do you keep coming up with these idiot ideas?

YES, we do have other options at QB. Justin Burke, who when put in promptly threw a pick and was yanked.

10/25/2007 2:56:06 PM

Quote :

"We should copy Arkansas's offense and do the Wildcat formation. Spice up the season."

Great idea, lets see what our top two running backs have to say about that. What? Still out for the year? Nuts, guess that's not going work with a true freshman backing up a redshirt freshman

10/25/2007 5:34:07 PM

http://www.cavalierdaily.com/CVArticle.asp?ID=31372&pid=1639

Cavaliers look to stay perfect in ACC against Wolfpack

10/26/2007 3:09:01 PM

http://www.thesabre.com/news_archive/showArticle-3404.php

UVa At N.C. State Scouting Report: NCSU Offense

10/26/2007 3:24:23 PM

A Closer Look
Running Offense: TOM O'BRIEN RUNS THE FOOTBALL. He did at BC and the plan is to do it in Raleigh. Since 2000, Boston College attempted 6,007 offensive plays and 55% of the time the Eagles were running the football. In 2000 and 2001, BC ran the ball more than 60 percent of the time. 2007 has been the first time this century that BC attempted more passes than runs. Of course with First Team All-ACC trigger-man Matt Ryan at the helm, who wouldn't?

But during O'Brien's tenure at B.C., his teams were noted for consistent offensive line play based on man-to-man blocking. Since moving to Raleigh, O'Brien has imported most of his offensive staff from Boston College as well as his drive blocking, double-teaming, man-to-man blocking scheme. State's linemen have had difficulty adjusting to the new scheme, the blocking calls, the footwork, and the techniques required for effective man blocking. NCSU is averaging 3.1 yards per carry this season, which ranks 10th in the conference. The Pack stands 109th nationally in rushing yards per game (91.86). Last season, the Wolfpack averaged 3.8 yards per carry and 119.7 yards with offensive line coach Pat Myers zone-blocking system.

This unit has really struggled with the more physical nature of drive blocking. The added dimension of handling a 3-4 defense and not being able to explode off the line and have immediate contact with your man could create even more disruption in the offensive line's play this weekend. As we witnessed against Maryland, EXPECT DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR MIKE LONDON TO MOVE CHRIS LONG AROUND EARLY TO FIND THE WEAK SPOT in the line and then settle in to attack that area.


Chris Long is facing an offensive line that has struggled at times this season.

Passing Offense: The biggest problem for the Wolfpack passing attack this season has been the inconsistent play at quarterback. Inconsistent from a performance standpoint as well as inconsistency in who actually plays the position. It hasn't been an easy year for junior quarterback Daniel Evans. After being named the starter before the season opener, he lost his job for the second game of the season. He came off the bench in two later games after starter Harrison Beck went out with an injury, but he has been strong in his last two outings as the starting signal caller, leading the Pack to its first road win in two seasons last week at East Carolina. ONE OF THE BIGGEST IMPROVEMENTS AGAINST THE PIRATES WAS BETTER PASS PROTECTION.

Something we saw last season with State and something that is consistent with O'Brien and Dana Bible's philosophy is forcing opponents to defend every potential receiver, both horizontally and vertically. Not so much a spread offense but certainly one which encompasses the spread philosophy of using the entire field. Four big, fast wide receivers are the featured players in the passing attack. Blackman, Dunlap, freshman Darrell Davis (#15, 6-4), and sophomore Donald Bowens (#80, 6-3) have produced 49% of State's receptions this season, combining for 939 yards and 11.8 yards per reception.

Virginia's linebackers must be aware of quick releases from Evans on 3-step turn-in/turn-out routes. If a catch is made, the defense must be quick and sure with the tackle. TIGHT END MARCUS STONE IS AN INTEGRAL PART OF THE ATTACK and the clubs most effective third down receiver. He is converting 55% of his opportunities. Bible will also attack opposing defenses with the backs in the passing game. State fields very good pass-receiving backs and does not hesitate to take advantage of those skills. Combining the numbers from the injured Brown and sophomore sensation Jamelle Eugene, the backs have made 39 grabs for 294 yards. State brings a very effective screen game to the table and will use it to counter aggressive blitzing. The Virginia defense must respect this component of the Wolfpack offense.

On first down: NCSU has a 56 to 44 run to pass ratio this season on first down. Against BC, the pack rushed 13 times on first down and passed 21; against Louisville, it tilted slightly toward the pass with 13/15 run/pass breakdown. The rest of the season, the Pack have run more often than they have thrown, averaging more than 4.8 yards per play on first down.

In the six games we evaluated the fullback did not carry the ball once, the QBs ran a called run play (non-scramble situation) three times, and Blackman (WR) ran one reverse. That means 96% of the time on first down, a tailback will get the carry on a running play. Andre Brown had been the feature ball carrier most of the season, but with his loss to injury, Eugene has become the feature first down back. STATE HAS AVERAGED 4.3 YARDS PER CARRY ON FIRST DOWN.


Against the most challenging opponents this season, the Pack has attacked with the pass on first down and I expect Virginia will see the same. Thus far, State is netting around 5.5 yards per attempt on first down. Blackman and the running backs have been the primary targets on first down through the air (22%). The backs get the ball mostly via screens and flare patterns. The TEs have been the focus in 13% of the plays.

Of note for the Cavalier staff is how the Pack offense handled first down against ECU. With the loss of Brown and Eugene in his first start, the expectation would be that NCSU would lean more on the passing game on first down and that's exactly what occurred. Though the final breakdown was marginal (15 pass, 12 run), the difference in the first three quarters is substantial as State threw 15 times on first down (68% of the time) to just seven runs as they built an early 21-0 advantage. The Pack also tossed their second pass of the season to the fullback (#46 Patrick Bedics) against the Pirates.

10/26/2007 3:24:46 PM

On third down: The Pack throws the ball almost exclusively on third down, running just 14% of the time so EXPECT TO SEE THE SUB DEFENSES (PRIMARILY THE NICKEL) FOR THE MAJORITY OF THIRD DOWN SITUATIONS AGAINST STATE. The Wolfpack sit in the middle of the ACC with a 37.8 conversion rate while the Cavaliers are holding opponents to a fourth best 33.9 mark.

When State does throw, the talented receivers are the workhorses as they are the target of 70% of third down passing attempts. The pack will mix in the RB (18%) and TEs (12%), however, so ignoring the backs and ends is not recommended. In fact, tight end Marcus Stone has been the go to man on third down 10% of the time, converting a team-high 55% of his opportunities. Among the receivers, Dunlap is the biggest third down receiver with 18% of the chances and a solid 46% conversion rate. Blackman is the second choice of the receivers getting 9% of the third down balls, but he averages a 38% conversion mark.

Typically, NCSU works the receivers on deep out and edge routes while the tight ends cross and drag over the middle and the backs loop in behind the defensive line and under the dropped linebackers. Screens are options here too.

In the red zone: The Pack has a fairly balanced attack inside the red zone with a 57 (pass) to 43 (run) percent ratio. THE RECEIVERS ARE THE PRIMARY PASSING TARGET GETTING 54% OF THE CHANCES. As he is on third down, Dunlap has been the lead receiver in the red zone followed by freshman Darrell Davis. The tight ends are active but surprisingly Stone is not among the leaders inside the 20. That could be a change in tendency Virginia sees this weekend.

UVa should note that State aggressively throws the ball inside the 10, more so than any team it has faced this season. The backs and the receivers have been the primary targets - the backs off swing passes and screens and the receivers off the fade route that Evans throws very well. Five of the Pack's seven red zone passing TDs have originated inside the 10. One additional note, all of these passes have occurred on second and third down so Virginia should look for a potential tendency change here as well with a possible first down pass (maybe off of play action).

The Pack is having problems scoring as evidenced by their last place standing in red zone offense in the ACC. They actually have more trips into the red zone than three other ACC clubs (including Virginia Tech) but they have been turned away five times as a result of four INTs and a fumble. Virginia is among the conference leaders in red zone defense (3rd), allowing scores just 75% of the time; UVa has forced three turnovers and stopped one opponent on downs. Five squads have yielded fewer TDs than the Cavaliers in the red zone. A CAUTIONARY NOTE, THE HOOS HAVE GIVEN THE SECOND MOST PASSING TD'S IN THE LEAGUE.

10/26/2007 3:25:15 PM

Coaching: Tom O'Brien is a very solid, fundamentally sound football coach that likes to play ball control offense with a controlled passing attack and big, physical offensive lines. Offensive coordinator Dana Bible, who came to N.C. State from Boston College with O'Brien, was the architect of the Eagles highly success ball-control, run-oriented offenses. In 2007, we've seen very little of that approach in Raleigh. In part, that is because game situations have dictated passing with the Pack frequently trailing in their games. In part, it is because of the problems up front and the depleted depth at tailback. Basically, they have tried to play to the team's strength, which right now is the passing game.

Through seven games, State has attempted 273 passes, second-most in the conference behind Boston College. NCSU'S 210 RUSHES THIS SEASON ARE THE FEWEST IN THE LEAGUE. The staff has simplified the offense in that they have cut the playbook in half and have tried to focus on the 15-20 plays the offense seems to have the most success with - the coaches make that the core of the game planning. But using the run is O'Brien's way. N.C. State is going to run the football. O'Brien's offense starts with the running game and the run game is driven by the tailbacks. Call it dull, conservative, old fashioned, or whatever you want, but running the football limits mistakes and allows a team to control the clock. For O'Brien, it's been pretty effective.

Plays That Could Hurt Virginia
Deep patterns. Evans is a good passing quarterback and he throws the fade routes especially well. The Pack loves the fade inside the 20-yard line, but they will throw it from anywhere on the field. Evans repeatedly torched FSU with boundary routes in press coverage. Virginia's corners will likely combat the effectiveness of the sideline patterns with the "settle" technique. Look for the corners to align five to six yards off the line of scrimmage. The receivers must show the route within five yards, giving the corner a read of fade, out, or an inside route (such as a crossing or slant).

Screens. State is a very effective screen team and the Hoos must be aware of that aspect of the offense, especially in the red zone. Eugene is a very good receiving tailback.

Strengths

Wide receivers. The receivers have size and speed. Evans has a very quick release and can hit receivers in stride with superbly timed, accurate throws. State receivers burned the Pirate coverage for big plays frequently last week. The receivers were the primary focus of the offense on first down last week in Greenville and the wideouts get 70% of the chances on third down. The State receivers are tall and are given the chance to make plays in jump-ball type situations. If that occurs, the defenders will try to force their hands under the ball and disrupt the catch attempt.
Evans' release vs. Virginia pressure. The pass protection held up pretty well against an aggressive Pirate defense but ECU doesn't have Jeffrey Fitzgerald and Chris Long playing defensive end. London will go after Evans but if he can get his throws out quickly it could expose the Cavalier backers in the underneath zones. Virginia has done a good job knocking down passes and the short, quick passes Evans excels at can't be lofted so get those arms up.

Vulnerability

Offensive line. We've highlighted the struggles of the offensive line in trying to adapt to the new run blocking scheme. Pass protection has been O.K. but if the run game is ineffective and State is forced to go to the air to move the ball against Virginia's nickel package, it will be a long night for those wearing red in Carter-Finley.
Running game. We've already noted the troubles of the offensive line, an offensive line that may be without a player. Add in a young tailback getting only his second start against a very good defense and you have a recipe for trouble. Maryland's offensive line could not handle Chris Long and they are better than State's. Last year with a healthy Baker and Brown, the Virginia defensive line limited State's league-leading running back duo to just 2.8 yards per carry and allowed ZERO yards on first down plays in their zone and did not yield a third-down conversion attempt. The Cavalier line is better in 2007.

10/26/2007 3:25:36 PM

Virginia's Defensive Keys

Make State pass. The Pack run game needs to be shut down immediately. I'm a firm believer in making teams one dimensional and if that happens, Virginia's chances are very good to win a fourth consecutive road game.
No big plays in the passing game. The Cavalier defense cannot allow the Wolfpack to continue the success it had last week against ECU with big pass plays. The receivers are very good and Virginia's corners are not the strength of the defense. But they had decent outing against Maryland's talented receivers, doubling with the safety at various times and keeping the Terp big play targets in front at all times. I like a similar strategy this week against the Pack. Let the linebackers handle the underneath stuff and trust the pass rush to the guys up front.
Ball disruption. Here's an oldie but goodie. State shelved its propensity to give the ball away last week by yielding just one turnover. I think the Hoos have a chance to make some things happen in the ball disruption operation this weekend, though. Evans throws a lot of quick, low passes, something Virginia has had a knack for batting away this season. Hopefully they'll have another successful night and maybe one of those batted balls will find its way into a Cavalier defender's hands. State throws almost exclusively on third down so the secondary could have a chance to jump some routes and make a play. The Wolfpack is 119 out of 119 Division I-A teams in turnover margin and every State loss has usually included a boat load of turnovers.
Get off the field. Though not a great running team, the Pack can control the ball with the pass. Virginia needs to limit production on first down, force State in to second- and third- and long situations and make the Wolfies settle for plenty of short possessions.

10/26/2007 3:25:57 PM

jesus christ

10/26/2007 4:03:57 PM

nooooooooooo.....words

10/26/2007 4:05:50 PM

and lots of them

if you are at work, i suggest printing all that out and reading it while sitting on the toliet

[Edited on October 26, 2007 at 4:21 PM. Reason : toliet]

10/26/2007 4:21:07 PM

I hope it doesnt rain tommorrow.

....

10/26/2007 4:25:00 PM

that would be a pretty good idea

[Edited on October 26, 2007 at 4:25 PM. Reason : ^truth]

10/26/2007 4:25:03 PM

i do this like once a day during the week w/ either articles i pull off of here, packpride, SFN etc

10/26/2007 4:26:54 PM

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"I hope it doesnt rain tommorrow."

What about the dry lakes!

10/26/2007 4:28:49 PM

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"UVA is fucking overrated, they didnt play anyone remotely good this yr and they only had a good game against Pit of all placesss......"

Up until last night they had a harder schedule than BC and more wins against current BCS Top 25 teams than BC. I'm not sure they're overrated given their record... a bad loss @ Wyoming and they play a tempo that lends itself to close games. But there is something to be said for teams that simply know how to win in crunch time..

[Edited on October 26, 2007 at 4:32 PM. Reason : this uva team is better than last years wfu team imo... but the conf at the top is stronger...]

10/26/2007 4:29:59 PM

MOTHER FUCKER 2 MORE INJURIES AND ANOTHER AT THE POSITION WE CAN LEAST AFFORD IT FFUCKKKK


THATS 2 STARTERS OUT ON THE O-LINE......NOW FUCKING CROUCH IS OUT....STOP GETTING HURT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


For those keeping score at home....thats (pre-season starters)
Anthony Hill
Toney Baker
Andre Brown
Curtis Crouch
Julian Williams
John Dunlap
Fuck add whoever else you want thats half of the god damn offense I'm surprised Blackman isnt on the list so I would have absolutely NO hope for us to score. Thats 5 of our 6 best players right there.

[Edited on October 26, 2007 at 5:19 PM. Reason : Thats some NC State shit. ]

10/26/2007 5:16:50 PM

10/26/2007 5:21:07 PM

10/26/2007 5:30:45 PM

Quote :

"not related to this game but i found it funny.. scroll down to #76 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_football_stadiums_by_capacity"

Quote :

"76 - Carter-Finley Stadium - 60,000 - Raleigh - North Carolina - NC State Wolfpack 77 - Kenan Stadium - 59,999 - Chapel Hill - North Carolina - North Carolina Tar Heels"

haha... go random wikipedia person.

10/27/2007 3:53:20 AM

I remember when TWW would go all jihad on the UNC pages of Wikipedia. NCAAwiki in fact locked the UNC webpage from being edited b/c we just kept messing it up with funny shit.

10/27/2007 9:26:06 AM

i finally ensured that i get ESPNU, so i can watch this

10/27/2007 10:32:09 AM

do you need a student id for the red white game or can anyone get in?

10/27/2007 10:39:17 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04zjzWlWY-E&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQLOvSeCqv8

10/27/2007 11:02:22 AM

it's open to the public

10/27/2007 11:02:28 AM