BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
It should be "Fry em," but sadly our judicial system is nothing more than Mob rule. The indictment against him could have been rendered years ago, but why now? Because this year he broke the record for home runs. Had he not set the record, or had be been a popular, well-liked athlete, prosecutors would never have touched him.
The steroids thing did not violate existing laws or MLB rules (Remember, the MLB did not ban steroids until 2002). Tons of other players used enhancements, steroids, etc. at the time Bonds allegedly did. For years baseball bigwigs, the players' union, and MLB turned a blind eye to this because players were getting more hits and scoring more runs, and thus generating revenue for everyone involved.
So Bonds could spend as many as 30 years in prison. Without a real crime having been committed, prosecutors have to fall back on perjury. Ok, even if he did knowingly use steroids and lied about it, would he be facing a prison sentence if he hadn't broken the home run record? You say, absolutely, the rule of law dictates that he committed a crime, and thus he must be punished.
Then where is the indictment against rafael palmeiro? Oh wait, he didn't break the home run record. He isn't a reviled, unpopular figure. If the law is going to be enforced here, it must be enforced fairly. Otherwise, this is nothing more than yet another chapter in the pattern of judicial abuse that runs rampant in this country. 12/7/2007 11:26:04 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
if he didnt want to get indicted and go to jail he shouldnt have cheated and disgraced hank aaron's record] 12/7/2007 11:27:52 AM |
zebranky All American 1668 Posts user info edit post |
^ yeah, seriously, it's one or the other. if you're going to cheat, for the love of god don't break any records doing it.
[Edited on December 7, 2007 at 11:33 AM. Reason : that kind of thing will get you arrested!] 12/7/2007 11:33:03 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
i mean thats the reason they're cracking down...i guarantee you that if sosa or mcgwire had broken the record they would be in the same boat as bonds is now 12/7/2007 11:33:42 AM |
ssjamind All American 30102 Posts user info edit post |
i think Bobby hit the nail on the head. if he's punished, he should be punished comparably to other violators. be it perjury, obstruction, whatever.
just because he was more successful than other juicers, doesn't mean he should be punished more -- this isn't a progressive income tax system. 12/7/2007 11:38:24 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "just because he was more successful than other juicers, doesn't mean he should be punished more" |
i think it does in this case
the simple fact that he holds the career and single season HR records is the reason he gets more shit than other juicers12/7/2007 11:40:53 AM |
ElGimpy All American 3111 Posts user info edit post |
Please someone explain how he is going to be punished any worse for perjury than another person would be punished were they convicted of perjury 12/7/2007 11:45:19 AM |
beergolftile All American 9030 Posts user info edit post |
jeebus, 30 years in prison? Hell 5 years in prison is way too much. If I were him, Id just admit it and give back the records and apologize. Better than getting buttfucked for years and years. 12/7/2007 11:46:22 AM |
terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^ yeah, seriously, it's one or the other. if you're going to cheat, for the love of god don't break any records doing it. " |
lol
that just made me laugh out loud at work
this thread is really making my day12/7/2007 11:52:00 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "If I were him, Id just admit it and give back the records and apologize" |
or preemptively he couldve retired before he broke the record...but he is a competitor and wanted the record cause a generation or two down the line, all the juicing stuff is gonna be a lot more out of sight and out of mind...i mean we hear bad shit about ty cobb and some other older players but we arent as familiar with somebody like ty cobb as we are with bonds simply because bonds is in our era
as for jail, i could give a shit...he's had that one dude sitting in jail for refusing to testify against Bonds for what a year or two? Bonds has people willing to do time for him...time for him to man up now12/7/2007 11:52:38 AM |
terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
How do you know Hank Aaron wasn't using corked bats?
huh? 12/7/2007 11:53:16 AM |
beergolftile All American 9030 Posts user info edit post |
snitches get stitches 12/7/2007 11:54:03 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
^^i dont but i know hank aaron's head didnt physically double in size throughout his career 12/7/2007 12:00:44 PM |
terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, but that would still be cheating right? double head size or not!
people will always find a way to cheat - the best cheaters will get the record... it's a plus if you don't get caught though (Patriots)
[Edited on December 7, 2007 at 12:02 PM. Reason : ] 12/7/2007 12:01:45 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
it would be cheating although corked bats dont help you hit as far as steroids
also aaron never admitted to using a corked bat...bonds did however admit to doing steroids
and i dont like the patriots, but in fairness they did get caught and paid the consequences (OH NOES WE LOSE A DRAFT PICK AND SOME MONEY) although i think the pats like that bad guy image
[Edited on December 7, 2007 at 12:04 PM. Reason : .] 12/7/2007 12:03:15 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "How do you know Hank Aaron wasn't using corked bats?
huh?" |
You cannot be serious12/7/2007 12:29:11 PM |
terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
I'm cerial as hell 12/7/2007 12:42:09 PM |
jccraft1 Veteran 387 Posts user info edit post |
terp, lets get this out of the way
they are making this a bigger case because he is black
merry xmas douchebag 12/7/2007 12:44:40 PM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i think it does in this case
the simple fact that he holds the career and single season HR records is the reason he gets more shit than other juicers" |
And you don't think that is an abuse of the Rule of Law by our judicial system?12/7/2007 12:56:04 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
well i personally dont because i personally think bonds is a piece of shit
and i'm not saying that if multiple people are guilty of the exact same thing that they should be punished differently
i just think when you're talking about the integrity of the game of baseball and classy hard working players like hank aaron, when you're talking about how we don't want kids to do steroids like their favorite athletes, and generally when we're trying to clean up a sport that has needed cleaning up for awhile, i have zero problem with the biggest recordholder also being the biggest scapegoat 12/7/2007 1:03:14 PM |
terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "terp, lets get this out of the way
they are making this a bigger case because he is black
merry xmas douchebag
" |
Anyone know who this little faggot is?
Quote : | "well i personally dont because i personally think bonds is a piece of shit " |
That doesn't mean he should be punished harder than others either though. SCALES of JUSTICE!
Quote : | "i have zero problem with the biggest recordholder also being the biggest scapegoat " |
That doesn't make any real-world sense. It's just a cop-out
[Edited on December 7, 2007 at 1:12 PM. Reason : ]12/7/2007 1:10:59 PM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
^^ I also think Bonds is a piece of shit. But a bigger issue to me is the way our judicial system is handling this.
admittedly, if this happened to be centered around Roy Williams or some other big UNC scandal, i'm certain my biases against UNC would trump any semblance of blind eyed justice, but just sayin' 12/7/2007 1:14:34 PM |
gforce All American 2107 Posts user info edit post |
Bonds appeared relaxed as he smiled and chatted with his cadre of six attorneys. He then stood before the judge with his hands clasped behind his back.....
LOL he better get used that position !! 12/7/2007 2:06:33 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
^^the only issue i have with how the judicial system is handling this is that they'd rather prosecute this than go after more important stuff like murder, rape, etc
but seeing as they are prosecuting, i don't see how he's getting any type of unfair treatment...and its not like he's been sentenced to anything, so do any of us even know if he's being treated fairly or not?
and you mentioned at the top of page 2 that at the time steroids werent banned by MLB rules...well heroin and crystal meth arent explicitly banned in MLB rules either...but they're illegal just like anabolic steroids so i've never been a big fan of that argument
Quote : | "That doesn't mean he should be punished harder than others either though. SCALES of JUSTICE!" |
who is he being punished worse than? how is he getting unfair treatment??12/7/2007 2:08:58 PM |
eleusis All American 24527 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i just think when you're talking about the integrity of the game of baseball and classy hard working players " |
there are very few classy and hard working athletes in baseball. just because the history books glorify the athletes that you never grew up watching doesn't mean they were as honorable as you think they are.12/7/2007 2:17:53 PM |
gforce All American 2107 Posts user info edit post |
Classy / Hardworking = Derek Jeter 12/7/2007 2:24:11 PM |
eleusis All American 24527 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "who is he being punished worse than? how is he getting unfair treatment?? " |
are you really that ignorant? the feds are threatening up to a 30 year sentence. There have been mobsters that have gotten less than a tenth of that sentence for lying about a murder case.
John Bulger, the brother of the leader of the Irish mob in Boston, was threatened with 2 years imprisonment of which he only served six months for perjury. He lied about knowing of any safety deposit boxes his brother owned. The feds found out he was paying the dues on the boxes in addition to having several joint bank accounts with his brother. To top it all off, John was a magistrate at the court house. He was also convicted of giving fake IDs to his fugitive brother, of which that 6 month sentence was part of.12/7/2007 2:27:48 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "the feds are threatening up to a 30 year sentence" |
i dont care what who is threatening anybody with
HE HAS NOT BEEN SENTENCED TO ANYTHING YET
you are the one jumping the gun
also how do you know what players in the MLB are classy and hardworking? do you know a lot of pro ball players personally?]12/7/2007 2:47:03 PM |
terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
oh come on! You want people to WAIT FOR THE SENTENCE?
you can't go SHIT after he's sentenced! 12/7/2007 2:48:44 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37696 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "who cares what A-Rod is...American...Hispanic...Metrosexual
at least he isn't a dirty cheater like Barroid" |
wait, didnt a-rod slap the ball out of the guys hand while running to first?
didnt a-rob yell "mine" while rounding the bases during an infield pop-up?
it may not be on the same scale as barry, but a-rod is certainly a dirty cheater.
Quote : | "(Remember, the MLB did not ban steroids until 2002). " |
while this is true, are you saying he did not use roids after 2002?
and of course 30 years is way past excessive, it is ridiculous. i dont even know if the guy should have jail time. you are telling me mike vick is gonna get on the order of 1-5 years and barry is gonna get 30? that is absurd.
Quote : | "How do you know Hank Aaron wasn't using corked bats?" |
racist12/7/2007 3:41:01 PM |
gforce All American 2107 Posts user info edit post |
He is getting the time for "potentially lying to a grand jury......not juicing ! If he is convicted of lying to a grand jury and obstruction of justice he could get lots of time. However I believe he should just be banned from baseball....all his records erased....and not allowed anything to do with the sport ever.....Jail time for doing steroids while playing baseball....no
And comparing A-Rod slapping a ball out of someones hand is weak
[Edited on December 7, 2007 at 6:04 PM. Reason : .] 12/7/2007 6:04:00 PM |
ssjamind All American 30102 Posts user info edit post |
today changes things 12/13/2007 6:57:45 PM |
gforce All American 2107 Posts user info edit post |
Today doesn't change a damm thing....Bonds is still a piece of shit. Anyone who didn't think that steroids was rampant in MLB and all sports for that matter has been living under a rock. In the end Bonds is a piece of trash....that will never change. 12/13/2007 7:44:04 PM |
sonny-lo Suspended 667 Posts user info edit post |
^and so are you 12/16/2007 9:01:20 AM |
gforce All American 2107 Posts user info edit post |
STFU n00b....your opinion means nothing....for that matter you mean nothing. 12/16/2007 10:17:15 AM |
sonny-lo Suspended 667 Posts user info edit post |
^REAL tough talk from someone who says "noob" on a regular basis.... 12/16/2007 12:26:41 PM |
Flyin Ryan All American 8224 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "However I believe he should just be banned from baseball....all his records erased....and not allowed anything to do with the sport ever.....Jail time for doing steroids while playing baseball....no" |
Your posts really make me laugh. Keep them coming. It's like listening to Mike Tyson.
Bonds' records will be removed when the 2000 Yankees are stripped of their World Series title.12/16/2007 2:43:52 PM |
sd2nc All American 9963 Posts user info edit post |
Looks like Ecko is still planning on branding the ball before he gives it to the HOF. NICE.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3279476 3/6/2008 3:39:01 PM |