the 30 rock product placements are funny.

12/18/2007 3:12:54 PM

Now thats an interesting idea, why not make some shows that incorporate the commericals into the show so we have no breaks
the price is right was the best at it, they were making $$ from start to finish

12/18/2007 4:26:01 PM

See now with the Spiderman/Dr. Pepper can... I don't understand??? If I turned into a spidermonster, I would use my Yoo-Hoo can right here... so it seems realistic to me actually.

But yeah anyway:

Quote :

"movie snobbery is running rampant in this thread some of you need to get over yourselves"

12/18/2007 5:16:27 PM

i love product placement

and i have a film degree so my word is law

12/18/2007 5:42:30 PM

The only product placements that REALLY annoyed me were the 24 season 5/6 prequels. They were using a Toyota something or other...and it could not be more obvious. Jack Bauer shows up in China driving a pristine Toyota truck without a scratch or any mud on it...and he's driving on backwoods dirt roads. Please.

12/18/2007 8:50:03 PM

when it distracts me form the movie it bothers me

the whole FedEx thing with Castaway didn't bother me though

12/18/2007 9:01:08 PM

just about all the transformers beings GM's was pretty fucking annoying, they should have stuck with just hyping the Camaro and that was it

besides, everyone knows a GM would just crush in a fight againt the Decepticons anyways

12/18/2007 9:45:16 PM

Reading over Gamespot's "Dubious Awards", the award for "Most Despicable Use of In-Game Advertising" made me think of this thread.

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"Need for Speed ProStreet isn't exactly an example of in-game advertising restraint. Playing the game offline isn't all that offensive, but as soon as you jump on to Xbox Live, the deluge begins. Aside from the fact that the game gives you the option to flat-out pay $25 in real money to unlock advanced cars (and get an unfair advantage over players who start from the bottom), and that it constantly pesters you with this "option" each time you go to buy an in-game car, the game has dynamic ads that start downloading the very first time you get online. What's worse and even more ridiculous is that the game's Xbox Live achievement points have ads attached to them. That's right, even the achievements in this game are brought to you by a commercial sponsor. This kind of obnoxious salesmanship really hurts the game experience and makes ProStreet a lock for this category. "

lawlz

12/28/2007 3:45:39 PM

12/28/2007 4:12:39 PM

If a product is placed inadvertently, and the product's company then pays for that benefit, then whatever. It's when the product placement is intentional, as it so often is, that gets on my nerves. As if we're not inundated enough with blatant advertising 24/7, we're now subject to having their advertisements subliminally shoved down our eye sockets everytime we open our eyelids. Sooner or later, they'll figure out how to place ads inside those too.

Rabble, rabble, etc.

12/28/2007 5:21:38 PM

My problem is that it detracts from the purity of the story. The more generic the props are, the more immersive the story is.

12/28/2007 11:00:36 PM

^ not necessarily. Sometimes, the more realistic the props are, the more realistic, and therefore immersive, the story is. for example, I would much rather see people in a movie or TV show drinking Coke or Pepsi than a bland can that just says COLA. I think that props that go out of the way to be generic or non-branded can be more distracting than branded ones.

12/28/2007 11:05:27 PM

How do I feel about it?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=F4wh_mc8hRE

12/28/2007 11:21:15 PM

ok, actually, this is what I like to see: I like to see people in TV and movies using products in realistic ways. Ideally, there would be no partnership between the companies and the studios, but the studios would/could still integrate products in just the same ways we use them in real life. Because it's not like in real life we are in some kind of generic, brand-free world. We have branded products all around us, and we use their names and company names in our normal conversation all the time.

I'm not sure if Seinfeld was in direct product integration talks or not, or if all his product placement was just from the writing. I'm sure in later years he had contracts, but the great thing about the way product placement was used in Seinfeld was that 1) it was generally done in a realistic manner, and 2) when it was overt, it was for comedic purposes. For example, Kramer offering Jerry a Junior Mint during surgery was fucking hilarious - it would not have been the same if he had said "do you want a chocolate covered peppermint, Jerry?"
Or in another episode when Elaine got Juju Fruits from a movie theater, it just wouldn't have been as funny if she had gotten "fruit chews" or some made up brand nobody had heard of. Same with the Kenny Roger's Roasters. And of course the episode at the car dealership when George plugged nearly every candy bar sold today. Using the real names and the real slogans of those candy bars was comedic gold.

12/28/2007 11:35:10 PM

plz to embed

http://youtube.com/watch?v=bQOg2BU1ZUM

12/29/2007 12:15:52 PM

^^Seinfeld did use product placement, sometimes subtle, sometimes not. George walks in with Rold Gold pretzels like one month after Jason Alexander started advertising for them. Pretty transparent. Jerry's cabinet full of cereal was another place for product placement.

Other times they just got permission to use the brand's name like in "The Marine Biologist" when George pulls out the Titleist golf ball.

trivia tracks FTW

[Edited on December 29, 2007 at 12:49 PM. Reason : .]

12/29/2007 12:49:02 PM

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"Jerry's cabinet full of cereal was another place for product placement."

that may be true, but i consider that "realistic product placement", in that people like to see that Seinfeld eats real cereals like Life and Cheerios, instead of brand-x, generic sounding cereal names

12/29/2007 12:54:00 PM

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ijLMgJ_SvYY

12/29/2007 1:34:00 PM

^^Oh yeah I definitely liked it done that way and preferred it to seeing a generic "Cola" on the side of cans.

12/29/2007 1:59:11 PM

some people are always looking for something to bitch about

12/29/2007 2:19:52 PM

any time people are in a gas station/convenience store/grocery store and they are in the chip/snack aisle, the products are always ENTIRELY one company. Most often Frito Lay will pay them and stock the entire aisles with nothing but their products (which then includes pepsi)

12/29/2007 3:49:03 PM

Product placement in movies does not bother me.

Advertising, commericials and billboards also don't bother me...so why would I care if a movie tries to "double dip"

12/29/2007 4:50:32 PM

Because YOU ALREADY PAID FOR THE TICKET or some such nonsense.

12/29/2007 4:54:26 PM