ActionPants All American 9877 Posts user info edit post |
Gavin Grant is the greatest player of all time 12/21/2007 11:18:45 AM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
we talk about how bad our defense is. and certainly our rebounding has been very bad in most games. but we hold our opponents' effective fg % to 42.2% which is 13th best in the NCAA.
[Edited on December 21, 2007 at 11:23 AM. Reason : .] 12/21/2007 11:23:36 AM |
slamjamason All American 1833 Posts user info edit post |
IT ALL COMES TOGETHER TONIGHT. 12/21/2007 11:29:54 AM |
BrickTop All American 4508 Posts user info edit post |
...which only speaks for how bad we are. given that stat, and we still find a way to get blown out/lose?
not looking forward to tonight, i hope my concerns are not justified.... 12/21/2007 11:30:09 AM |
daddytime Suspended 503 Posts user info edit post |
He learned from the 2nd greatest player of all time
Julius Hodge 12/21/2007 11:30:19 AM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
^^oh stfu. we've only been blown out once. and by a top 10 team. 12/21/2007 11:31:59 AM |
daddytime Suspended 503 Posts user info edit post |
There's no doubt in my mind that state is going to lose by double digits tonight
We could have 20+ turnovers against meredith 12/21/2007 11:35:02 AM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
scouting report for ncsu:
Team stats through games of Thursday, December 20
Record vs. D-1: 5-3 Luck: +0.032 National Rank=110 (+0.3 wins)
Raw Tempo: 66.3 poss/40 min National Rank=242 Adj Tempo: 66.4 poss/40 min National Rank=234
Offense Defense Raw Efficiency : 101.1 (166) 95.8 (102) Adj Efficiency : 99.8 (176) 89.7 ( 44)
Effective FG% : 50.3 (160) 42.2 ( 13) Turnover Pct. : 22.4 (189) 16.0 (340) Off. Rebound% : 32.2 (209) 37.4 (289) Free Throw Rate: 34.7 ( 7) 22.9 ( 10)
3-Point FG% : 29.4 (303) 33.3 (116) 2-Point FG% : 53.2 ( 54) 39.5 ( 7) Free Throw Pct.: 66.5 (218) 59.7 ( 9) Block Pct. : 9.3 (190) 12.7 ( 55) Steal Pct. : 10.0 (172) 5.8 (336)
3PA/FGA : 31.9 (214) 25.4 ( 5) A/FGM : 51.7 (235) 46.7 ( 29)
scouting report for Davidson:
Record vs. D-1: 3-5 Luck: -0.232 National Rank=341 (-1.9 wins)
Raw Tempo: 70.1 poss/40 min National Rank=114 Adj Tempo: 67.8 poss/40 min National Rank=183
Offense Defense Raw Efficiency : 109.5 ( 53) 101.8 (189) Adj Efficiency : 111.0 ( 54) 99.3 (144)
Effective FG% : 52.9 ( 91) 55.1 (302) Turnover Pct. : 16.6 ( 8) 24.4 ( 77) Off. Rebound% : 30.7 (250) 29.2 ( 43) Free Throw Rate: 13.2 (340) 41.5 (268)
3-Point FG% : 36.1 (138) 42.2 (324) 2-Point FG% : 51.9 ( 80) 49.8 (205) Free Throw Pct.: 65.4 (249) 65.1 ( 72) Block Pct. : 8.4 (131) 12.6 ( 56) Steal Pct. : 6.1 ( 4) 10.2 (164)
3PA/FGA : 44.2 ( 20) 38.9 (291) A/FGM : 62.8 ( 40) 57.7 (226)
[Edited on December 21, 2007 at 11:42 AM. Reason : .] 12/21/2007 11:41:45 AM |
tschudi All American 6195 Posts user info edit post |
Davidson - 82 State - 70 12/21/2007 12:06:34 PM |
ncsuftw1 BEAP BEAP 15126 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The summary of the analysis is that the line-up of Degand/Fells/Grant/Costner/Hickson have coutscored opponents by 39 points while the line-up of Degand/Fells/Grant/Costner/McCauley have been outscored by opponents by 12 points. A 51 point differential in just 8 games averages to be just under 6.5 points per game. That is a HUGE number." |
12/21/2007 1:18:22 PM |
armorfrsleep All American 7289 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "It's sad that many State fans are so negative; look at how tough it was last year and we almost ended up winning the ACC tournament for the first time in 20 years. March and April are when it really counts, not November." |
This whole statement is fucking retarded. Sendek took us to the ACC Tournament finals like 3 times (including his first year), and yet we still didn't even make it to the NCAA until his 6th year. This is to illustrate that making the ACC tourney finals doesnt mean shit, especially if you don't end up making the NCAA tourney. If we make it to the Big Dance then I'll have no complaints, but it's going to be very difficult with 2 BAD losses in non conference play. It means that we will have to win at least 8 conference games (or the ACC tourney) to get in, and the way we are playing right now we would be lucky to win 5.12/21/2007 1:18:57 PM |
Talage All American 5093 Posts user info edit post |
^ 12/21/2007 1:54:28 PM |
slackerb All American 5093 Posts user info edit post |
^^Yeah, I could care less if we make the ACC tourney finals. What? That's how you win the ACC? No WAY!
Wow. You're a moron. Just because we've lost in the past 4 ACC tourney finals doesnt mean that it isn't important. It's only the title game for one of the most prestigious conferences in the nation. No biggie to make it to that.... 12/21/2007 2:31:51 PM |
armorfrsleep All American 7289 Posts user info edit post |
I'm not saying it's not important, I'm saying nobody cares if you constantly make it to the ACC tourney finals and lose. Oh wait, I forgot that they just let you into the NCAA tourney for making the ACC finals
[Edited on December 21, 2007 at 2:38 PM. Reason : .] 12/21/2007 2:36:00 PM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
well, if that's all you do, then no. but it doesn't hurt for making a case for getting into the tourney/getting a good seed 12/21/2007 2:36:48 PM |
slackerb All American 5093 Posts user info edit post |
Plus, there's always the chance you could win...which is one of the two ways to get in.
We're all just saying that what you do in November/December helps if you can't win the ACC tourney, but it's not the most important thing in the world. 12/21/2007 3:01:54 PM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
but yeah. it looks again like a lot of this game will fall on fells' shoulders defensively. 12/21/2007 3:11:27 PM |
jtmartin All American 4116 Posts user info edit post |
am i the only one that thinks winning the regular season is more important than winning the ACC tourny? I mean i LOVE the ACC tournament.. it's one of my favorite times of the year, but I would take winning the ACC regular season any day over the tourny. Either way you're going to the big dance, but if you won the ACC regular season, you're gonna be a top 3 seed 12/21/2007 3:12:08 PM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
where did that come from? 12/21/2007 3:13:28 PM |
daddytime Suspended 503 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "It means that we will have to win at least 8 conference games (or the ACC tourney)" |
going .500 in the acc will most likely be 6th, 7th, or 8th place
if state is 6th, 7th, or 8th place in the acc with little to no run in the acc tourney, we will be one of those teams with their bubble burst come selection sunday... ALL because the UNO and ECU loss12/21/2007 3:18:25 PM |
Talage All American 5093 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ I guess it really depends on where you're sitting. Last year we thought winning the ACC tournie was pretttty damned important.
^ I think thats a bit of a stretch. Its going to also depend on which teams are in front of us and what their overall record looks like compared to ours.
[Edited on December 21, 2007 at 3:21 PM. Reason : .] 12/21/2007 3:19:13 PM |
DaveOT All American 11945 Posts user info edit post |
I wonder how much tickets will be going for outside the RBC Center tonight...
I'm thinking about heading over there. 12/21/2007 3:24:41 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "am i the only one that thinks winning the regular season is more important than winning the ACC tourny?" |
Yes
Quote : | " I mean i LOVE the ACC tournament.. it's one of my favorite times of the year, but I would take winning the ACC regular season any day over the tourny." |
Except the regular season championship doesn't mean anything. It's like the regular season championship in the NFL or NBA. The ACC Tournament is meaningful.
[Edited on December 21, 2007 at 3:28 PM. Reason : /]12/21/2007 3:27:45 PM |
DaveOT All American 11945 Posts user info edit post |
I don't really see how the ACC Tournament is more "meaningful" than the regular season except in an emotional sense.
These days, if you win the regular season, you're basically guaranteed to go to the dance, just like the tourney champ. (It's not an official guarantee, but when's the last time the regular-season champ didn't get a bid?) 12/21/2007 3:30:11 PM |
daddytime Suspended 503 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Its going to also depend on which teams are in front of us and what their overall record looks like compared to ours" |
Unless hell freezes over, there aren't going to be any worse non-conference losses than ours
We are one of if not the worse team in the acc right now12/21/2007 3:30:12 PM |
Talage All American 5093 Posts user info edit post |
dude, we lost two shitty games in December. Get over it.
[Edited on December 21, 2007 at 3:35 PM. Reason : and for the record new orleans is now 9-2] 12/21/2007 3:33:49 PM |
daddytime Suspended 503 Posts user info edit post |
OH i'm over it
I honestly think we have the talent and are capable of winning the acc regular season this year
We played absolutly horrible those two games, three if you count mich. st., but we did lose them, and for that we are the worst team in the acc right now
We will get better, there's no doubt in my mind, just depends on how quick that can happen, it took 20+ games last year 12/21/2007 3:36:25 PM |
daddytime Suspended 503 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "and for the record new orleans is now 9-2" |
New Orleans could win the rest of their games for all I care, they will still be considered a miserable team12/21/2007 3:38:51 PM |
God All American 28747 Posts user info edit post |
12/21/2007 4:33:53 PM |
Brass Monkey All American 13560 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "New Orleans could win the rest of their games for all I care, they will still be considered a miserable team" |
That would mean they would be the national champions.12/21/2007 4:48:48 PM |
erice85 All American 4549 Posts user info edit post |
not sayin NO is great, but i am hoping they win their conference and the rest of their games in the reg season for that matter. we need all the help we can get.
better start pullin for ECU too 12/21/2007 4:51:39 PM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
just looking at their schedule right now. my god they play some horrible teams. that's the only way you can go 9-2 and still be ranked 181 in the RPI and 209 in the Pomeroy Ratings.
hah: UNO RPI SOS RANK 234 out of 241
[Edited on December 21, 2007 at 4:56 PM. Reason : .] 12/21/2007 4:55:21 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I don't really see how the ACC Tournament is more "meaningful" than the regular season except in an emotional sense." |
the acc tournament is more "meaningful" because "winning" the "tournament" means you're the "league champion"
winning the regular season doesn't mean "a damn thing"12/21/2007 4:56:37 PM |
erice85 All American 4549 Posts user info edit post |
^^ yeah they pounded the fuck out of alcorn st the other night haha 12/21/2007 5:22:40 PM |
1985 All American 2175 Posts user info edit post |
Any online video feeds? 12/21/2007 5:25:48 PM |
Rat Suspended 5724 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on December 21, 2007 at 5:30 PM. Reason : ]
12/21/2007 5:29:52 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Any online video or audio feeds?
[Edited on December 21, 2007 at 6:48 PM. Reason : ..] 12/21/2007 6:46:42 PM |
roddy All American 25834 Posts user info edit post |
12/21/2007 6:50:08 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Free davidson audio
http://www.teamline.cc/free_listen?teamcode=1143&eventcode=6&status=PFU 12/21/2007 6:53:49 PM |
Rat Suspended 5724 Posts user info edit post |
ITTTTTTTTTTTTTSSSSSSSSSSSSSS GGGGGGAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEE TIMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRR!!!
I hope we stoked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
12/21/2007 6:54:05 PM |
Rat Suspended 5724 Posts user info edit post |
CMON!!!!!!
12/21/2007 7:09:06 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
wtf curry. would be nice to attack curry on offense.
[Edited on December 21, 2007 at 7:15 PM. Reason : .] 12/21/2007 7:14:53 PM |
Rat Suspended 5724 Posts user info edit post |
yeah. 2 bombs already 12/21/2007 7:15:17 PM |
The Dude All American 6502 Posts user info edit post |
looks like we are hustling a little more this game (so far) 12/21/2007 7:16:07 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
wtf hit a shot 12/21/2007 7:23:34 PM |
Rat Suspended 5724 Posts user info edit post |
[crickets]?
horrible 3 minutes by both teams 12/21/2007 7:23:40 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Do we have scrubs in already? Need the good guys in to open up the lead 12/21/2007 7:30:11 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
i want that blonde 12/21/2007 7:31:00 PM |
Rat Suspended 5724 Posts user info edit post |
not if they just hit that kind of shot. 12/21/2007 7:31:18 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
pics or it didn't happen 12/21/2007 7:31:31 PM |