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Gavin Grant is the greatest player of all time

12/21/2007 11:18:45 AM

sarijoul
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we talk about how bad our defense is. and certainly our rebounding has been very bad in most games. but we hold our opponents' effective fg % to 42.2% which is 13th best in the NCAA.

[Edited on December 21, 2007 at 11:23 AM. Reason : .]

12/21/2007 11:23:36 AM

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IT ALL COMES TOGETHER TONIGHT.

12/21/2007 11:29:54 AM

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...which only speaks for how bad we are. given that stat, and we still find a way to get blown out/lose?

not looking forward to tonight, i hope my concerns are not justified....

12/21/2007 11:30:09 AM

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He learned from the 2nd greatest player of all time

Julius Hodge

12/21/2007 11:30:19 AM

sarijoul
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^^oh stfu. we've only been blown out once. and by a top 10 team.

12/21/2007 11:31:59 AM

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There's no doubt in my mind that state is going to lose by double digits tonight

We could have 20+ turnovers against meredith

12/21/2007 11:35:02 AM

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scouting report for ncsu:

Team stats through games of Thursday, December 20

Record vs. D-1: 5-3
Luck: +0.032 National Rank=110 (+0.3 wins)

Raw Tempo: 66.3 poss/40 min National Rank=242
Adj Tempo: 66.4 poss/40 min National Rank=234

Offense Defense
Raw Efficiency : 101.1 (166) 95.8 (102)
Adj Efficiency : 99.8 (176) 89.7 ( 44)

Effective FG% : 50.3 (160) 42.2 ( 13)
Turnover Pct. : 22.4 (189) 16.0 (340)
Off. Rebound% : 32.2 (209) 37.4 (289)
Free Throw Rate: 34.7 ( 7) 22.9 ( 10)

3-Point FG% : 29.4 (303) 33.3 (116)
2-Point FG% : 53.2 ( 54) 39.5 ( 7)
Free Throw Pct.: 66.5 (218) 59.7 ( 9)
Block Pct. : 9.3 (190) 12.7 ( 55)
Steal Pct. : 10.0 (172) 5.8 (336)

3PA/FGA : 31.9 (214) 25.4 ( 5)
A/FGM : 51.7 (235) 46.7 ( 29)


scouting report for Davidson:

Record vs. D-1: 3-5
Luck: -0.232 National Rank=341 (-1.9 wins)

Raw Tempo: 70.1 poss/40 min National Rank=114
Adj Tempo: 67.8 poss/40 min National Rank=183

Offense Defense
Raw Efficiency : 109.5 ( 53) 101.8 (189)
Adj Efficiency : 111.0 ( 54) 99.3 (144)

Effective FG% : 52.9 ( 91) 55.1 (302)
Turnover Pct. : 16.6 ( 8) 24.4 ( 77)
Off. Rebound% : 30.7 (250) 29.2 ( 43)
Free Throw Rate: 13.2 (340) 41.5 (268)

3-Point FG% : 36.1 (138) 42.2 (324)
2-Point FG% : 51.9 ( 80) 49.8 (205)
Free Throw Pct.: 65.4 (249) 65.1 ( 72)
Block Pct. : 8.4 (131) 12.6 ( 56)
Steal Pct. : 6.1 ( 4) 10.2 (164)

3PA/FGA : 44.2 ( 20) 38.9 (291)
A/FGM : 62.8 ( 40) 57.7 (226)

[Edited on December 21, 2007 at 11:42 AM. Reason : .]

12/21/2007 11:41:45 AM

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Davidson - 82
State - 70

12/21/2007 12:06:34 PM

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"The summary of the analysis is that the line-up of Degand/Fells/Grant/Costner/Hickson have coutscored opponents by 39 points while the line-up of Degand/Fells/Grant/Costner/McCauley have been outscored by opponents by 12 points. A 51 point differential in just 8 games averages to be just under 6.5 points per game. That is a HUGE number."

12/21/2007 1:18:22 PM

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"It's sad that many State fans are so negative; look at how tough it was last year and we almost ended up winning the ACC tournament for the first time in 20 years. March and April are when it really counts, not November."


This whole statement is fucking retarded. Sendek took us to the ACC Tournament finals like 3 times (including his first year), and yet we still didn't even make it to the NCAA until his 6th year. This is to illustrate that making the ACC tourney finals doesnt mean shit, especially if you don't end up making the NCAA tourney. If we make it to the Big Dance then I'll have no complaints, but it's going to be very difficult with 2 BAD losses in non conference play. It means that we will have to win at least 8 conference games (or the ACC tourney) to get in, and the way we are playing right now we would be lucky to win 5.

12/21/2007 1:18:57 PM

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^

12/21/2007 1:54:28 PM

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^^Yeah, I could care less if we make the ACC tourney finals. What? That's how you win the ACC? No WAY!

Wow. You're a moron. Just because we've lost in the past 4 ACC tourney finals doesnt mean that it isn't important. It's only the title game for one of the most prestigious conferences in the nation. No biggie to make it to that....

12/21/2007 2:31:51 PM

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I'm not saying it's not important, I'm saying nobody cares if you constantly make it to the ACC tourney finals and lose. Oh wait, I forgot that they just let you into the NCAA tourney for making the ACC finals

[Edited on December 21, 2007 at 2:38 PM. Reason : .]

12/21/2007 2:36:00 PM

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well, if that's all you do, then no. but it doesn't hurt for making a case for getting into the tourney/getting a good seed

12/21/2007 2:36:48 PM

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Plus, there's always the chance you could win...which is one of the two ways to get in.

We're all just saying that what you do in November/December helps if you can't win the ACC tourney, but it's not the most important thing in the world.

12/21/2007 3:01:54 PM

sarijoul
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but yeah. it looks again like a lot of this game will fall on fells' shoulders defensively.

12/21/2007 3:11:27 PM

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am i the only one that thinks winning the regular season is more important than winning the ACC tourny? I mean i LOVE the ACC tournament.. it's one of my favorite times of the year, but I would take winning the ACC regular season any day over the tourny. Either way you're going to the big dance, but if you won the ACC regular season, you're gonna be a top 3 seed

12/21/2007 3:12:08 PM

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where did that come from?

12/21/2007 3:13:28 PM

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"It means that we will have to win at least 8 conference games (or the ACC tourney)"


going .500 in the acc will most likely be 6th, 7th, or 8th place

if state is 6th, 7th, or 8th place in the acc with little to no run in the acc tourney, we will be one of those teams with their bubble burst come selection sunday... ALL because the UNO and ECU loss

12/21/2007 3:18:25 PM

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^^^ I guess it really depends on where you're sitting. Last year we thought winning the ACC tournie was pretttty damned important.


^ I think thats a bit of a stretch. Its going to also depend on which teams are in front of us and what their overall record looks like compared to ours.


[Edited on December 21, 2007 at 3:21 PM. Reason : .]

12/21/2007 3:19:13 PM

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I wonder how much tickets will be going for outside the RBC Center tonight...

I'm thinking about heading over there.

12/21/2007 3:24:41 PM

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"am i the only one that thinks winning the regular season is more important than winning the ACC tourny?"


Yes

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" I mean i LOVE the ACC tournament.. it's one of my favorite times of the year, but I would take winning the ACC regular season any day over the tourny."


Except the regular season championship doesn't mean anything. It's like the regular season championship in the NFL or NBA. The ACC Tournament is meaningful.

[Edited on December 21, 2007 at 3:28 PM. Reason : /]

12/21/2007 3:27:45 PM

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I don't really see how the ACC Tournament is more "meaningful" than the regular season except in an emotional sense.

These days, if you win the regular season, you're basically guaranteed to go to the dance, just like the tourney champ. (It's not an official guarantee, but when's the last time the regular-season champ didn't get a bid?)

12/21/2007 3:30:11 PM

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"Its going to also depend on which teams are in front of us and what their overall record looks like compared to ours"


Unless hell freezes over, there aren't going to be any worse non-conference losses than ours


We are one of if not the worse team in the acc right now

12/21/2007 3:30:12 PM

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dude, we lost two shitty games in December. Get over it.

[Edited on December 21, 2007 at 3:35 PM. Reason : and for the record new orleans is now 9-2]

12/21/2007 3:33:49 PM

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OH i'm over it

I honestly think we have the talent and are capable of winning the acc regular season this year

We played absolutly horrible those two games, three if you count mich. st., but we did lose them, and for that we are the worst team in the acc right now

We will get better, there's no doubt in my mind, just depends on how quick that can happen, it took 20+ games last year

12/21/2007 3:36:25 PM

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"and for the record new orleans is now 9-2"


New Orleans could win the rest of their games for all I care, they will still be considered a miserable team

12/21/2007 3:38:51 PM

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12/21/2007 4:33:53 PM

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"New Orleans could win the rest of their games for all I care, they will still be considered a miserable team"


That would mean they would be the national champions.

12/21/2007 4:48:48 PM

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not sayin NO is great, but i am hoping they win their conference and the rest of their games in the reg season for that matter. we need all the help we can get.


better start pullin for ECU too

12/21/2007 4:51:39 PM

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just looking at their schedule right now. my god they play some horrible teams. that's the only way you can go 9-2 and still be ranked 181 in the RPI and 209 in the Pomeroy Ratings.

hah: UNO RPI SOS RANK 234 out of 241

[Edited on December 21, 2007 at 4:56 PM. Reason : .]

12/21/2007 4:55:21 PM

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"I don't really see how the ACC Tournament is more "meaningful" than the regular season except in an emotional sense."


the acc tournament is more "meaningful" because "winning" the "tournament" means you're the "league champion"

winning the regular season doesn't mean "a damn thing"

12/21/2007 4:56:37 PM

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^^ yeah they pounded the fuck out of alcorn st the other night haha

12/21/2007 5:22:40 PM

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Any online video feeds?

12/21/2007 5:25:48 PM

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[Edited on December 21, 2007 at 5:30 PM. Reason : ]

12/21/2007 5:29:52 PM

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Any online video or audio feeds?

[Edited on December 21, 2007 at 6:48 PM. Reason : ..]

12/21/2007 6:46:42 PM

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12/21/2007 6:50:08 PM

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Free davidson audio

http://www.teamline.cc/free_listen?teamcode=1143&eventcode=6&status=PFU

12/21/2007 6:53:49 PM

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ITTTTTTTTTTTTTSSSSSSSSSSSSSS GGGGGGAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEE TIMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


HOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRR!!!


I hope we stoked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

12/21/2007 6:54:05 PM

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CMON!!!!!!

12/21/2007 7:09:06 PM

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wtf curry. would be nice to attack curry on offense.

[Edited on December 21, 2007 at 7:15 PM. Reason : .]

12/21/2007 7:14:53 PM

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yeah. 2 bombs already

12/21/2007 7:15:17 PM

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looks like we are hustling a little more this game (so far)

12/21/2007 7:16:07 PM

skokiaan
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wtf hit a shot

12/21/2007 7:23:34 PM

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[crickets]?

horrible 3 minutes by both teams

12/21/2007 7:23:40 PM

skokiaan
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Do we have scrubs in already? Need the good guys in to open up the lead

12/21/2007 7:30:11 PM

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i want that blonde

12/21/2007 7:31:00 PM

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not if they just hit that kind of shot.

12/21/2007 7:31:18 PM

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pics or it didn't happen

12/21/2007 7:31:31 PM

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