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"I don't understand why all y'all dislike fluorescent light so much. Perhaps I'm just used to it. I do love LEDs, though."

i LOVE CFL lighting over incandescents. Its all I used in college in my desklamp because it seemed so much more natural for me when Im doing work at my desk.

But yea with that being said I like LEDs even more probably.

12/26/2007 12:26:24 AM

What stores sell LED bulbs? Circuit City? I was thinking about buying one or two.

12/26/2007 6:27:01 PM

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"And what exactly is lame about it?"

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"progress is lame? hmm..."

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"this is fucking retarted."

*carl face*

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"fine with me"

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"are you serious? its not the lightbulb they care about but how much energy you use per home if everyone switches, then the country uses dramatically less energy and pollutes less per year its the smart thing to do"

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"Wait wait, someone plz explain why this is bad again? "

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"This will save people many times the cost of the original bulb, it makes perfect economic and regulatory sense. It will also dramatically reduce energy consumption nationwide. Its not as Draconian a measure as say, telling people who they can or can't marry. "

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"For the same reason the Governor of North Carolina has to come out and impose restrictions on water usage. Because people are either too stupid to realize that they should be doing it, too lazy to do it, or to flippant to care."

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"-Cost three times as much or more -Have relatively low differential of energy savings -Have toxic chemicals (mercury as has been pointed out) -Have terrible light gamma -Consumers generally aren't buying because its a mediocre product"

i dont agree with a few of those...i dont agree with the relatively low differential of energy savings, and the consumers generally aren't buying

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"I don't understand why all y'all dislike fluorescent light so much. Perhaps I'm just used to it. I do love LEDs, though."

12/26/2007 7:22:39 PM

^cfl's save you 20-30% over the life of the bulb, not including the post-life costs (disposal and waste, which are MUCH higher over time, and would be noticeably larger if everyone switched)

LED's save you 50-80% over the life of the bulb NOW, and even more as volume increases and prices lower. They also produce much cleaner light and are better on the eyes. They can be used in more conditions, indoor and out, and last MUCH longer in lights that are constantly turned on and off.

Not only that, but CFL's also produce a LOT of heat, which in warmer climates will raise your cooling bills in the summer noticeably.

12/26/2007 8:02:19 PM

I don't know what the exact term is, but LED lights don't seem to "spread" like incandescents, and i've never seen one that I thought was suitable for regular lighting. Even LED flashlights, despite a cleaner and seemingly brighter (when looking directly at it) light seem inferior to plain, ol' incandescent flashlights to me.

12/26/2007 8:35:12 PM

its called directional or point lights.

versus traditional bulbs and cfl's that are omnidirectional.

You can now get LED lights that are omnidirectional and are direct replacements for 15-70w incandescent bulbs

http://www.x-tremegeek.com/templates/SearchDetail.asp?productID=11880&ta=detail_img&pi=Y&st=3

That one produces (im told) right at 600 lumens output and is fully omnidirectional.

The real shit thing about LED bulbs still is the wild-west nature of the industry. The money is in industrial applications, so there havent been many US companies who have put the effort into a consumer Edison-socket bulb.

The key differences between CFL and LED are:

Pro's for LED:

Cleaner light (aka NO UV)
5-10 times the lifespan of the bulb (10k hours versus 50-100k)
Fully analog dimmable
No life shortening for turning lights on and off
No heat output
They fail gracefully
Serviceable (once a bulb does run out, replacing the diodes is a fraction of the total bulb cost)

Pros for CFL:
Cheaper up front.

12/27/2007 2:18:27 AM