sumfoo1 is losing his damn mind

1/10/2008 11:26:09 PM

1/10/2008 11:27:59 PM

Here is your argument.

The best course of action is the one that prevents people from drinking and driving Something such as encouraging friends to stop them by making the accomplices.

The flaw in your punishment is that it ultimately shifts the burden to someone else... cause they'll get others to drive them places etc. Also you're not really increasing the threat because they're drunk and don't think they're going to get caught anyway so who give a shit what the punishment is until you're being punished...

1/10/2008 11:28:13 PM

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"wait... what's a cakewake?"

30 days in jail is a cake walk

Quote :

"SHUT THE FUCK UP i was friends of theirs and i promise you that this was a "least drunk" situation in my opinion if you willingly get into the car with a drunk driver its just as much your fault as theirs. "

The driver is responsible for her actions. If you are a "least drunk" situation, CALL A FUCKING CAB. The driver got behind the wheel and responsible for the wreck.

1/10/2008 11:28:32 PM

What the hell? Is that even a paragraph?

[Edited on January 10, 2008 at 11:29 PM. Reason : ^^]

1/10/2008 11:29:06 PM

and the passenger is responsible for being in it.

1/10/2008 11:29:19 PM

look in case you havent noticed, there are always ways around punishment


that bitch friend of yours got 30 days, im sure thats a great deterrent

i dont see any rational basis for punishing a passenger unless it can be proven they forced someone to drive or that they did it with the specific intent of evading the law...that or your argument personally sucks and wouldnt convince a fish to swim


[Edited on January 10, 2008 at 11:31 PM. Reason : x]

1/10/2008 11:29:53 PM

Quote :

"and the passenger is responsible for being in it."

So it should be illegal to ride in a car while drunk?

1/10/2008 11:30:20 PM

The passenger did not lose control of the vehicle. It was not the passenger's fault. It was a poor choice to do that, but she is not liable in any shape or form.

1/10/2008 11:30:40 PM

actually i barely knew the driver... emily was a good friend of mine on the other hand.

1/10/2008 11:30:50 PM

Seriously

Thirty days.

THIRTY DAYS.

For doing something irresponsible that killed someone.

Someone's life has ended forever.

And you get thirty days in some minimum security prison.

1/10/2008 11:31:26 PM

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"and the passenger is responsible for being in it."

Yes, she is. The passenger execute a poor decision and got in a car with someone who was too drunk to drive. The driver is still responsible though for the girls death and deserves a lot more than 30 days.

1/10/2008 11:32:09 PM

30 days


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1/10/2008 11:32:12 PM

Feel like volunteering for a 30 day jail sentence too farther explain just how easy it was?

1/10/2008 11:34:08 PM

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"Feel like volunteering for a 30 day jail sentence too farther explain just how easy it was?"

That makes no sense and you know it.

Tell you what though, if I ever kill one of my friends, I'll take the 30 day punishment.



[Edited on January 10, 2008 at 11:35 PM. Reason : a]

1/10/2008 11:34:43 PM

I mean I always thought the red light camera was partly to blame too.

I mean who the hell designs something to install in the middle of a low cut median that will become a flying anvil during a minor collision. There is a reason street signs bend so easy.......maybe someone should have thought about that when designing the red light camera.

If Danielle had been a few tenths of a bac more sober everyone would be saying throw the red light camera people under the bus. I am in no way defending driving drunk, but there is some blame to go around on this one.

1/10/2008 11:36:56 PM

I think i'd kill myself first but guilt weighs a little heavier on my shoulders than others


seriously though my uncle is a prison guard .. the first 30 days are the worst anyway when you have no friends etc.

1/10/2008 11:37:08 PM

you homos need to take this to the lounge or soap box


you are killing my buzz

1/10/2008 11:37:54 PM

im sure the next 5 years are just as rough whether you make friends or not



jail isnt a dating service nor is it a social

1/10/2008 11:38:29 PM

Aww, you mean she won't have friends for 30 days...that poor girl.

1/10/2008 11:40:02 PM

i think sumfoo1 has been eating morning glory seed

1/10/2008 11:40:43 PM

i'm done...

i got trolled long enough

1/10/2008 11:43:00 PM

haha how is it getting trolled


it sounds quite the opposite, to permit equal blame to the passenger is laughable...and you punitive argument blows

1/10/2008 11:44:11 PM

I was a correctional officer at a state prison. People have found their group within the first week. The rest of their time is spent just kinda hanging out with their new found friends. County jail is a more difficult thing to deal with, mainly because of the penchant for overcrowding. 30 days is a cake walk tho.

More often than not, people keep in touch with their cronies once they get out. It's social like a motherfucker.

[Edited on January 10, 2008 at 11:47 PM. Reason : .]

1/10/2008 11:44:48 PM

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"Danielle Polumbo, 21, pleaded guilty to felony death by vehicle, driving while impaired, driving after consuming alcohol while underage and reckless driving."

I dont' get it....how is she underage?

1/10/2008 11:44:48 PM

she wasnt 21 at the time the incident took place, thats her current age



[Edited on January 10, 2008 at 11:47 PM. Reason : d]

1/10/2008 11:45:28 PM

She was underage when it happened, she's 21 now...are you really that dumb?

1/10/2008 11:45:44 PM

She was 20 at the time of the wreck.

1/10/2008 11:46:04 PM

You don't seem to understand that being convicted of felony anything means you're pretty fucked in life... without even having to set foot in prison.

no jobs no credit nothing...

unless you were a career criminal to start with then its just a networking experience..

and saying it is just as much em's fault as the drivers is again my belief that you are responsible for the situations you put yourself in.

[Edited on January 10, 2008 at 11:49 PM. Reason : .]

1/10/2008 11:48:12 PM

danny just edit post before the damage spreads

1/10/2008 11:48:32 PM

http://tinyurl.com/3apqt5

[Edited on January 11, 2008 at 3:06 PM. Reason : tiny url is your friend]

1/10/2008 11:48:46 PM

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"People like you don't seem to understand the effects of doing something that irrational. Now.. since they can't drive they can't hold a job, go on welfare and we all have to pay for them because your dumbass stood on a soap box and whined. 1/10/2008 11:21: "

if they cant drive....they cant hold a job


as opposed to....they fuckin killed somebody driving drunk and now that they have a felony on their rap sheet so they aint gonna have a fuckin job



yea you seem to preach accountability to the letter

1/10/2008 11:50:58 PM

Quote :

"You don't seem to understand that being convicted of felony anything means you're pretty fucked in life... without even having to set foot in prison. no jobs no credit nothing... and saying it is just as much em's fault as the drivers is again my belief that you are responsible for the situations you put yourself in."

Thought you were done?

1/10/2008 11:52:21 PM

30 days seems awfully weak, drunk driving needs to have bigger sentencing

1/11/2008 12:13:03 AM

^hey girl come see me in that ninja suit

1/11/2008 12:17:04 AM

she's a white female


had this been a hispanic or black person, the book would have been thrown at them.



racism....and you fucking better believe it exist.

1/11/2008 12:32:32 AM

1/11/2008 1:18:12 PM

we're gonna do this thread again? Jesus, kill me please

1/11/2008 1:24:57 PM

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"there have been countless times where my friends / associates see me with a beer in my hand....then ask me to drive someplace because I'm the least fucked up "

True that. I've even volunteered to DD on numerous occasions only to have my friends try to thank me by ordering drinks for me. What idiot encourages their DD to drink right along with them and then let them play taxi for a bunch of people that live all over town?

1/11/2008 1:31:08 PM

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"if they cant drive....they cant hold a job"

not true at all

plenty of people work successful jobs without ever owning a car

even in raleigh people work and take public transportation

it sucks, yeah, but guess what? your previous decisions resulted in you contributing to someone's death through neglicence...so suck it up

1/11/2008 1:32:01 PM

http://www.wolfpacklife.com/viewprofile.php?userid=140




[Edited on January 11, 2008 at 2:37 PM. Reason : dur]

1/11/2008 2:37:25 PM

and here's the friend she killed?





http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=137476520

1/11/2008 2:39:26 PM

how about those quality redlight cameras, perfectly safe to have on the side of the street....

1/11/2008 2:40:05 PM

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"If the camera weighs enough to crush someone don't you think they should put that shit on a bigger post? "

Thats what I was thinking. I surprised the girl's lawyer didn't turn it around to say the camera wasn't mounted properly and sue the state. I can't imagine this camera being heavy enough to crush the roof of a car, killing someone.

1/11/2008 2:57:58 PM

can a mod please edit that stupid technician link off?

1/11/2008 3:03:52 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/01/11/jones.doping/?iref=mpstoryview

Quote :

"WHITE PLAINS, New York (CNN) -- Olympic track star Marion Jones was sentenced in a federal court Friday to six months in prison, two years of probation and community service for lying to federal prosecutors investigating the use of performance-enhancing substances."

Let's review:

Lying to a prosecutor? 6 months in prison, two years probation, community service.

Felony death by vehicle, driving while impaired, driving after consuming alcohol while underage and reckless driving? 30 days in prison, three years probation, community service.

[Edited on January 11, 2008 at 5:51 PM. Reason : haah]

1/11/2008 5:25:40 PM

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"if they cant drive....they cant hold a job"

That just might be the single stupidest thing ever posted on TWW, and thats saying a lot.

1/11/2008 5:35:33 PM

On the topic of license revocation, permanent or otherwise...

It don't mean shit. People still drive they asses to work and all around town. They still drive drunk. They still don't get their cars registered or inspected. They still speed. Basically, they still drive.

It's a lame punishment that only creates more work for the state in punishing people for driving with a revoked license...

1/11/2008 5:53:22 PM

What would rather have the state do, Bridget?

1/11/2008 5:57:21 PM

^^ And if they still drive, and they get caught, they go to jail. If they're that stupid, that is.

1/11/2008 6:00:56 PM