skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
all this time I thought John Edwards was another word for faggot 1/31/2008 7:58:14 PM |
Redstains441 Veteran 180 Posts user info edit post |
aaronburro is spot on. I'm not proposing that we let poor people die on the streets, but the more handouts the govt gives to poor people, the less incentive they have to better themselves. I don't care what anyone says, if someone wants to be successful in this country badly enough, he/she can (Chris Gardner). Ofcourse it may be a hell of a lot harder for some people than others, but life ain't fair, deal with it. You can't have the government going around trying to equalize everything. If you can't afford health insurance, drive an older car, cancel your cable TV. If you can't afford to provide your children with health insurance, DON'T HAVE CHILDREN. The main problem with this country is that people don't want to be responsible for themselves anymore. The more the govt bails people out for making bad decisions (mortgage crisis), the more bad decisions people are going to continue to make. 1/31/2008 8:00:27 PM |
jataylor All American 6652 Posts user info edit post |
^more truer words could not have been said its nice to know some people still have some sanity these days 1/31/2008 8:32:51 PM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
hhaha GEORGE COSTANZA IS AT THE DEBATE RIGHT NOW 1/31/2008 8:35:06 PM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "If you can't afford to provide your children with health insurance, DON'T HAVE CHILDREN." |
and if you're a child whose parents can't afford health care DON'T GET SICK. amirite?!?1/31/2008 11:20:40 PM |
Noen All American 31346 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "If you can't afford to provide your children with health insurance, DON'T HAVE CHILDREN." |
I agree with you on everything but this. Kids SHOULD be taken care of by government, should the parents not have the means to do so. It's the only area that I feel socially responsible to the masses and would gladly give my tax money.1/31/2008 11:36:59 PM |
Redstains441 Veteran 180 Posts user info edit post |
You misunderstood what I said. Kids should definitely be taken care of reguardless of their parents stupidity. However, parents should be responsible for their children first and foremost. 2/1/2008 12:31:21 AM |
Fry The Stubby 7784 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "You misunderstood what I said. Kids should definitely be taken care of reguardless of their parents stupidity. However, parents should be responsible for their children first and foremost." |
this is more accurate. government (aka OTHER PEOPLE) shouldn't have to take care of children whose parents are irresponsible (aka lazy, or have kids when they shouldn't). i'm all for taking care of people without choice, without the capacity to take care of themselves, but that's where it stops.
[Edited on February 1, 2008 at 12:42 AM. Reason : ]2/1/2008 12:42:13 AM |
theDuke866 All American 52839 Posts user info edit post |
bttt by request 5/14/2008 4:36:21 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
doesnt seem like a coincidence that the pretty boy hasnt chosen a democratic candidate to endorse...maybe because he'll endorse whichever one wins and asks him to be their running mate? we'll see 5/14/2008 4:39:29 PM |
SkankinMonky All American 3344 Posts user info edit post |
Didn't you say that about Gore too? 5/14/2008 4:40:23 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
no i said i thought gore would run for president in either 08 or 12...he was already VP for 8 years...he's good on being vice president any more
btw i didnt request this thread be bttt'd, i was speculating why someone mightve asked for it to be bttt'd though
also i think the VP nominee is definitely going to be a white male] 5/14/2008 4:43:24 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ What can I say? Ambulance chasers are opportunistic dickholes by nature. 5/14/2008 4:44:29 PM |
IRSeriousCat All American 6092 Posts user info edit post |
my money is on bloomberg. 5/14/2008 4:51:47 PM |
SkankinMonky All American 3344 Posts user info edit post |
duke, you should say which toolbags ask you to resurrect these old-ass threads. 5/14/2008 4:53:51 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
who do you think it was Monky? 5/14/2008 4:56:24 PM |
SkankinMonky All American 3344 Posts user info edit post |
i'm going to guess that it was a toolbag 5/14/2008 4:58:16 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
This is probably why the thread was resurrected
Eight ball on Edwards endorsement Submitted by bniolet on May 14, 2008 - 4:37pm.
Tags: Barack Obama | eight ball | endorsements | John Edwards | magic eight ball | Under the Dome
It's time to pit the Huffington Post against everyone's favorite fortune-telling desk toy.
An item on the Huffington Post is predicting that John Edwards will endorse Barack Obama tonight in Michigan.
The Obama campaign has announced a "major national endorsement" for a rally tonight at 7pm in Michigan, and the rumor mill is swirling that it is none other than Sen. John Edwards.
The Magic Eight Ball's take: "Yes Definitely." 5/14/2008 5:01:46 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
what would be the shit is if obama was like 15 delegates away after the next 6 contests plus all the defectors he would get in that time...and then clinton is like blah blah blah i want michigan florida and edwards is like boo-yaa i support obama stfu clint0wn 5/14/2008 5:09:37 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
its official according to cnn now 5/14/2008 5:14:53 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
What the hell is with your stream of consciousness posting style? 5/14/2008 5:15:30 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
what do you mean?
i think edwards southern draw will increase obamas support amongst rural whites
[Edited on May 14, 2008 at 5:37 PM. Reason : .] 5/14/2008 5:16:20 PM |
LunaK LOSER :( 23634 Posts user info edit post |
i requested that it be bumped because i knew that he was going to endorse
but thanks for thinking i'm a toolbag 5/14/2008 5:47:54 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
i dont think you are a tool bag!! 5/14/2008 5:52:01 PM |
SkankinMonky All American 3344 Posts user info edit post |
i stand corrected. 5/14/2008 6:18:37 PM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
edwards just told everyone to stop hatin on each other and USA#1 5/14/2008 6:48:23 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
he said that dumb ass 2 americas thing 5/14/2008 6:49:51 PM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
Big time endorsement. Good for Johnny. Did he also endorse the LSU football team for the 07 season? 5/14/2008 7:32:51 PM |
Supplanter supple anteater 21831 Posts user info edit post |
I think Obama will be getting a lot of new foot soldiers and funds through here tonight: https://donate.barackobama.com/johnedwards
I wasn't planning on donating to Obama again for a while, but I think if it helps send a message that NC is in play, then all the better. 5/14/2008 11:05:57 PM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "It's like getting an endorsement from Ryan Seacrest." |
--Dennis Miller on John Edwards' endorsement of Barack Obama
LMAO 5/15/2008 7:42:44 AM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
^in all fairness to seacrest.. at least he has a job. 5/15/2008 8:28:23 AM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
multiple jobs and probably way more money than edwards 5/15/2008 8:35:40 AM |
LunaK LOSER :( 23634 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "probably way more money than edwards" |
doubt it5/15/2008 9:00:07 AM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
just did a little preliminary googling (not confirming that these sources are right)
but they say edwards is worth 70 million and seacrest apparently earns $14 million a year
who knows? edwards probably has the edge for now, but it won't stand for long. 5/15/2008 9:14:12 AM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Edwards' campaign put his assets at $29.5 million.
The report showed that Edwards, a lawyer, made $1.2 million in income in 2006, including about $480,000 from Fortress Investment Group, a New York hedge fund.
That revelation has caused some controversy, given that Edwards has made combating poverty a centerpiece of his campaign, and he recently reimbursed his campaign for a $400 haircut.
However, Edwards has been defending his commitment to the poor, saying he worked at Fortress to learn about financial markets and their relationship to poverty." |
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/05/17/candidates.wealth/index.html
Quote : | " [Ryan Seacrest 2007] Pay: $14 mil" |
http://www.forbes.com/2007/06/12/07celebrities_Models_Personalities_slide_9.html?thisSpeed=10000
Seacrest is probably worth more--but all this misses the point of Miller's comparison.5/15/2008 9:20:07 AM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1626498-2,00.html
haha damnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
i swear to gods edwards has got to be the most ingenuine person ever 6/9/2008 3:43:44 AM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
Ingenuine? What's that, kinda like distruthy?
Kerry was a silly fag for trying to get a promise from Edwards not to run against him in '08. What kinda request is that anyway? Kerry had to know that '04 was his only chance at the presidency. 6/9/2008 3:54:25 AM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
edwards had to know his only chance at the whitehouse was 2004 but that didnt stop him 6/9/2008 4:03:00 AM |
Oeuvre All American 6651 Posts user info edit post |
W T F
From the article dnl posted:
Quote : | "Kerry talked with several potential picks, including Gephardt and Edwards. He was comfortable after his conversations with Gephardt, but even queasier about Edwards after they met. Edwards had told Kerry he was going to share a story with him that he'd never told anyone else—that after his son Wade had been killed, he climbed onto the slab at the funeral home, laid there and hugged his body, and promised that he'd do all he could to make life better for people, to live up to Wade's ideals of service. Kerry was stunned, not moved, because, as he told me later, Edwards had recounted the same exact story to him, almost in the exact same words, a year or two before—and with the same preface, that he'd never shared the memory with anyone else. Kerry said he found it chilling, and he decided he couldn't pick Edwards unless he met with him again." |
What a douche bag, using his own dead son for political gain. Heartless this man is.6/9/2008 6:41:01 AM |
wolfpackgrrr All American 39759 Posts user info edit post |
^ Something tells me he's not the first or last person to use a dead relative for political gain
That said, if true that's a pretty fucked up story. 6/9/2008 7:51:01 AM |
Oeuvre All American 6651 Posts user info edit post |
why do you have to justify things? It's dirty and it's nasty and it shows that John Edwards' soul is up for lease.
I'm not saying he's the only politician to use a dead relative for political gain, but when you find another, post in here and we'll talk about them.
If true? It was in TIME and the source WAS RIGHT THERE WHEN IT WAS SAID.
[Edited on June 9, 2008 at 8:21 AM. Reason : .] 6/9/2008 8:20:35 AM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "If true? It was in TIME and the source WAS RIGHT THERE WHEN IT WAS SAID." |
6/9/2008 3:32:55 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
nobody can judge a man who's had to bury his son.
nobody can judge a dad who's had to bury his little boy.
nobody.
you little cunts don't understand that now, so you can gloat and strut and front all you want, but mark my words... one day you'll begin to understand.
But you better hope to fucking god that you don't ever have to fully understand.
[Edited on June 10, 2008 at 2:45 AM. Reason : ] 6/10/2008 2:40:58 AM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Kerry was stunned, not moved, because, as he told me later, Edwards had recounted the same exact story to him, almost in the exact same words, a year or two before—and with the same preface, that he'd never shared the memory with anyone else." |
you are right...we cant make any judgements from this6/10/2008 6:06:58 AM |
Oeuvre All American 6651 Posts user info edit post |
I'm not judging him on the grief he went through over burrying his own son.
I am saying that he is clearly using the story for his gain, telling it over and over (twice to Kerry) allthewhile maintaining that he had never told anyone that story.
That's the very definition of a scumbag. 6/10/2008 8:28:09 AM |
wolfpackgrrr All American 39759 Posts user info edit post |
Maybe he sincerely forgot he told it the first time. I don't think it's likely but you never know. My boyfriend will often tell me the same story several times as if it were the first time. But he's not forgetful about other things; he's weird like that. 6/10/2008 9:25:51 AM |
Oeuvre All American 6651 Posts user info edit post |
I mean, something with as much depth and meaning as that story of crawling into the casket and hugging your dead son... you don't forget that.
And he told Kerry twice. I mean, if you preface it with "I never told anybody this before"...
I'm just saying. 6/10/2008 9:27:11 AM |
SkankinMonky All American 3344 Posts user info edit post |
I have a horrible short term memory as well. I forget important things that happen quickly but remember the weirdest shit at random too. 6/10/2008 9:27:15 AM |
roguewolf All American 9069 Posts user info edit post |
i was watching that new Election race show on MSNBC last night and some complete idiot said the only way for Obama to carry NC would be to put Edwards on the ticket.
apparently anyone can be an expert on this state, and that is unacceptable. if Edwards was on the ticket IMO it would just give it to McCain. the man offers nothing to NC anymore. 6/10/2008 10:31:12 AM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
i mean that doesn't even take thought. he couldn't carry this state in '04, what makes them think he would deliver in '08. but whatever. i'm just happy that this state will be campaigned in at all this year for president. 6/10/2008 10:33:49 AM |