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bigTHEW All American 7330 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I think he wanted to be 100% sure Pat got the job, thus resigning in mid season." |
I think it might have been a little deeper than that. A lot of the reports say that Pat was already confirmed to be the next coach of Texas Tech and the university had already agreed to this as part of Knight's succession plan. He just wasn't what was the best way execute that. I am pretty sure he had what happened to Mike Davis looming over him. When Knight left Indiana and Mike Davis took over things appeared to be going in the right direction. Later on Mike was chased out of Bloomington and they brought in Kelvin Sampson from Oklahoma.
The prevailing thought probably was that Mike Davis wasn't ready to step into the shadow of Knight without any head coaching experience. So when it came to his son I think Knight wanted to make sure that he at least gave Pat a chance to work in the capacity of a head coach without having to start totally from scratch. This way Bob Knight started the season off, the team has a decent record and now Pat has the rest of the season to keep the ball rolling gain the experience he needs.2/5/2008 8:44:47 AM |
markgoal All American 15996 Posts user info edit post |
^I'm sure that was a factor too (and helps tremendously with continuity, etc.), but Bob Knight is savvy enough to know that just because Pat Knight was designated his successor doesn't mean the university couldn't end up looking around and changing plans in the offseason. The timing of this move gets Pat Knight entrenched in the job before the offseason. Pat was already responsible for much of the day to day operations of the TT program, namely recruiting and running practices. Dean Smith made a similar move by resigning right before the season to get Guthridge the HC job. 2/5/2008 8:53:44 AM |
DaveOT All American 11945 Posts user info edit post |
^^ ?????
Davis went to the tourney three straight times in his first three seasons, including the championship game. How in the hell would an extra 10 games in a season that's basically already trashed help at all?
Not to mention the fact that Knight thinks Davis is a traitor for taking the job at all, and probably feels vindicated that he failed. 2/5/2008 8:58:24 AM |
markgoal All American 15996 Posts user info edit post |
^Yeah, Knight wasn't exactly asked for his input on a successor at Indiana, nor did he care to give it. There wasn't exactly any love lost between Bobby Knight and Mike Davis. 2/5/2008 9:02:50 AM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
hmmm this could be interesting
Kelvin is in violation of rules so to speak, the way Indiana could get out of this is to fire Kelvin.
Indiana owes Knight, i wonderrrrr, i just WONDERRRR if knight would go coach Indiana again.
theyd be contenders... 2/14/2008 7:54:33 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
No fucking way would he go back to Indiana 2/14/2008 7:56:53 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
I think it would be awesome if Bobby went back to IU as AD and he hired Pat to coach. 2/14/2008 7:59:18 PM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
Thats the most retarded thing I've ever heard.
Hopefully Knight fades away into oblivion. He went out like a bitch, and now he needs to stay away from the game because he's the worst kind of asshole in sports. 2/14/2008 8:05:41 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
haha he'd throw down on you, make you cry and blush like a little school girl.
Pat would never go there, that would be stupid since he has the controls at TT. 2/14/2008 8:08:20 PM |
State Oz All American 1897 Posts user info edit post |
I really wouldn't be surprised to see Bobby Knight back at IU, even if it was just to finish out the season and make peace.
Name the gym after him, dispose of the bad blood, let IU be able to claim him as their own.. and TT is probably headed back to being a nonfactor again in basketball.
I'd bet my money that Knight retired just because he wanted the hell out of Lubbock. 2/15/2008 1:16:56 AM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
say what you want about him being batshit crazy, he's as good a coach as you'll find and never got investigated twice by the ncaa for the same violation. 2/15/2008 1:25:50 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
He also had the highest graduation rate, year in and year out.
Those who think it's plausible that he could end up at Indiana again obviously stopped following Bobby Knight sometime around 1981. 2/15/2008 1:11:18 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
somebody like Bobby Knight easily gives me plenty of hope about Sidney Lowe
Knight has 3 national titles because he was able to recruit talented players to Indiana, and he is obviously a great coach. But how successful has he been at Texas Tech? Not very. He might've been the best active coach a couple weeks ago before he retired, but it just goes to show that you need the talent around you as well. Like a good point guard, for example. 2/15/2008 1:32:18 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
i don't have huge expectations for sidney lowe's recruiting, unfortunately.
like i've been saying though, john wall can make sidney lowe's career if he comes. 2/15/2008 1:36:42 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
he recruited Hickson
one thing i thought about Lowe's recruiting before he even got here was that he would be able to get NBA caliber talent (ie Hickson)...his NBA experience both playing and coaching can help him let kids know he knows what it takes to get to the NBA and make big money...and we need NBA caliber talent if we want to compete with Duke and UNC year in and year out 2/15/2008 1:38:11 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
he did recruit hickson. but the class coming in this year, unless he proves to be a great judge of talent, is mediocre.
class of 2009 has to be stellar or this ship is going to emplant itself firmly in the bottom of the acc. 2/15/2008 1:41:01 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
UNC has a lot more overall talent than us right?
Have you seen how much they've struggled with Quentin Thomas at the point? PG is such an important position that I don't think you can really judge a team's full potential without having a decent one who stays healthy all season 2/15/2008 1:43:16 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
ok, you're not listening.
what i'm saying is the following:
lowe can win if he gets good talent. i'm not convinced that he will be able to get good talent. 2/15/2008 1:44:01 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
well i think his NBA experience will help him get NBA talent
we can agree to disagree but only time will tell 2/15/2008 1:44:35 PM |