chembob Yankee Cowboy 27011 Posts user info edit post |
2 2/21/2008 3:23:51 PM |
Vix All American 8522 Posts user info edit post |
Religion is not a prerequisite for morality.
Quote : | "I mean, if you don't live a life in order to achieve eternal salvation, whats the point? " |
To pursue my own rational self-interest and be happy.
[Edited on February 21, 2008 at 3:33 PM. Reason : .]2/21/2008 3:31:07 PM |
chembob Yankee Cowboy 27011 Posts user info edit post |
^Amen 2/21/2008 3:32:46 PM |
khcadwal All American 35165 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Don't you use my Lord's name in vain.
You're obviously not a Christian, I bet you're out spreading your legs to sin every night too aren't you?" |
listen, i'm not a christian, i'm not an atheist. but in this thread you have done nothing but demonstrate some of the hypocrisies that make people wary of religion, and specifically christianity, to begin with. i'm not trying to make a generaliziation against all christians. i know and am friends with some great christians. but religion is often comprised of hypocrites (and so is life in general i guess, this isn't really my main point anyway. lets just disregard that.) and just because you think something is right, doesn't make it so. you're just illustrating how so many theists prejudge others who either don't believe or don't subscribe to their same religion. is judging your job? i thought that was god's job? yes, i realize that there are annoying athiests as well. however (and this is my main point) i'm just pointing out that you are an example of the type of attitudes that push people away from religion.
and yes, i am a huge whore.
[Edited on February 21, 2008 at 5:54 PM. Reason : hypocrisy...touchy subject]2/21/2008 5:52:43 PM |
elkaybie All American 39626 Posts user info edit post |
wat? 2/21/2008 5:56:45 PM |
sawahash All American 35321 Posts user info edit post |
not again 2/21/2008 5:58:09 PM |
StillFuchsia All American 18941 Posts user info edit post |
You kids responding to this thread seriously = LOL
[Edited on February 21, 2008 at 5:59 PM. Reason : everyone knows bbehe only believes in cylons ] 2/21/2008 5:58:20 PM |
chembob Yankee Cowboy 27011 Posts user info edit post |
IKNORITE? 2/21/2008 5:59:08 PM |
khcadwal All American 35165 Posts user info edit post |
none of my prior posts were serious 2/21/2008 5:59:41 PM |
casummer All American 4755 Posts user info edit post |
religion
RAWR RAWR RAWR 2/21/2008 5:59:44 PM |
khcadwal All American 35165 Posts user info edit post |
except i do speak in tongues on a regular basis. 2/21/2008 6:00:46 PM |
philihp All American 8349 Posts user info edit post |
You know who has morals?
Tom Cruise. 2/21/2008 7:33:05 PM |
TroopofEchos All American 12212 Posts user info edit post |
umballallallallaumballallallallaumballallallallaumballallallallaumballallallallaumballallallallaumballallallalla 2/21/2008 7:34:13 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "You kids responding to this thread seriously = LOL" |
2/21/2008 7:42:56 PM |
LadyWolff All American 2286 Posts user info edit post |
Define "morals" No really.
Do it.
Is objectivism the highest moral ground? some people think so. Is altruism the highest moral ground? some people think so and consider the above tottally immoral.
Just because someone doesn't follow your set of morals, hardly means they dont have their own set. You eat beef? You just offended somebody's sense of morals. Eat pork? same thing Curse? yup..that too. Look at women who arent covered head to toe? You're immoral by somebody's standards.
Morality based on religion - is a terrible excuse for not recognizing that morality need not rely in belief in any religious system, but only a beleif in core ideas that uphold humanity.
I'm a spiritual person, but it doesnt form my moral framework. Concepts like justice, fairness, equality, and rights - those form my moral framework. 2/21/2008 7:54:06 PM |
zorthage 1+1=5 17148 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Religion is not a prerequisite for morality." |
and what ^ said2/21/2008 7:55:08 PM |
khcadwal All American 35165 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "umballallallallaumballallallallaumballallallallaumballallallallaumballallallallaumballallallallaumballallallalla" |
2/21/2008 8:20:25 PM |
puppy All American 8888 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " i mean, do you have to have a point to be nice to someone? I mean if all you're doing is following rules to attain some greater good in the afterlife, that's the most selfish shit i have ever heard. " |
You have a very good point.
anyways, you don't have to be Christian to be a good person; just like not all Christians are good people.2/21/2008 8:30:49 PM |
eleusis All American 24527 Posts user info edit post |
You don't need religion when you have a conscience. 2/22/2008 5:21:08 PM |
Rat Suspended 5724 Posts user info edit post |
this is why people and their religions just make me lol.
the first religion i join will not be made by a human being. it will be ruled by higher powers. 2/22/2008 5:52:34 PM |
Vix All American 8522 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "you don't have to be Christian to be a good person" |
Depends on how you define good and bad.
I think Christians are good only to the extent that they're rational.2/22/2008 6:07:55 PM |
ndmetcal All American 9012 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "why don't black people tip?" |
one of the true great mysteries of life2/22/2008 6:55:06 PM |