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2/27/2008 7:47:14 PM

Jax883
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he was the highlight of the recap

2/27/2008 7:48:57 PM

Maverick1024
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like i was saying...

2/27/2008 7:50:48 PM

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2/27/2008 7:58:42 PM

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He should definitely be playing over marques...

2/27/2008 8:21:38 PM

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i support the main idea of this thread.

2/27/2008 8:30:17 PM

Kodiak
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no reason not to at this point

2/27/2008 9:02:27 PM

ohmy
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sidney's an idiot for not playing him more. waiting until we're down twenty to put him in the game. and i mean a real idiot.... like....

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"a person of the lowest order in a former classification of mental retardation, having a mental age of less than three years old and an intelligence quotient under 25."

2/27/2008 10:25:39 PM

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I thought the idea of him starting was silly until I read this quote from Furgie on gopack...


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"But it is not about what I do, it’s about the team. I would rather sit on the bench and see us win."

http://www.gopack.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=9200&ATCLID=1399243

Shit, let him start.

2/27/2008 10:53:34 PM

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"sidney's an idiot for not playing him more."

not really. he was airballing wide open shots earlier in the year.

it'd be great if he's found his shot for good.

2/27/2008 11:09:27 PM

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Fergie can be up and down, but I would like to see him get more minutes.


I dont know how Sidney could leave in Marques today, he was the weakest link on our team by far and seemed to have more minutes than most players. He was like a walking turnover.

2/27/2008 11:16:33 PM

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^^yeah but he hustled nonstop. even when he airballed a shot he would hustle back on D. unlike all our starters who stop and look to the ref waiting for a foul. ferguson should have been the first off the bench every time fells decides to check himself out of the game (which is a lot).

2/27/2008 11:29:28 PM

simonn
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ok, well hustle only goes so far. if you're airballing a 3 from the corner when the closest person to you is in the paint, it doesn't matter how hard you're hustling, you're not cutting it as a 2.

2/27/2008 11:32:28 PM

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Furthermore, teams would then start game planning for him. If I am an opposing coach, I just clear out and set a high pick for the man that trevor is guarding.



This is also the same game plan for any player in our back court.

2/27/2008 11:36:09 PM

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if more people on our fucking team had that attitude I think we would be onto something. Too bad people would rather loaf around the court for 30 minutes and get dominated by bad basketball teams.

2/27/2008 11:40:55 PM

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once they started guarding him closer he was making some really nice passes to set up shots for the other guys. i think he's way better than marques, and deserves 15-20 minutes or so a game. especially at this point. it'd be awesome if he could gain some confidence here in the last few games of the season and then carry it over into next season and actually be a regular contributor for us.

2/27/2008 11:51:55 PM

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TREVOR FERGUSON AND TRACY SMITH WILL LEAD US TO THE PROMISED LAND.

2/27/2008 11:57:38 PM

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there is no promised land for us this season. i think they both deserve to play a lot more though from the sheer hustle and effort they give when out on the court. what kind of message are you sending if you don't reward that?

2/28/2008 12:12:47 AM

simonn
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I MEANT NEXT SEASON.

NEXT SEASON, THE PROMISED LAND WILL BE REACHED.

2/28/2008 12:13:25 AM

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it's the same situation with Simon Harris. For awhile he showed more heart and hustle than anyone out there, then he just stopped getting minutes

2/28/2008 12:30:54 AM

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^ no, it's not really.

simon harris is a walkon who is about 5 inches undersized for his game.

2/28/2008 12:41:05 AM

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I was there at the game last night and it was great to see Ferguson produce they way he did. You have to admit thought part of the reason he produced as well as he did was because FSU did not game plan for him. During the post game interview Leonard Hamilton gave Ferguson prob for stepping up the way he did and admitted that his team was not prepared to handle him or Tracy Smith playing the way he did. I hope Ferguson can keep this up and continues to hustle the way he did last night.

2/28/2008 7:03:13 AM

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he shouldnt start
no way

he has been great for us off the bench the last two games though

[Edited on February 28, 2008 at 9:40 AM. Reason : if he would have made that 1/2 court shot we would have won that game]

2/28/2008 9:40:46 AM

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Start Ferguson? Hell, the way our starters are playing right now I'd start 5 guys from Carmichael.

2/28/2008 9:44:11 AM

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i think fergie is gaining some serious confidence, and that's important.

2/28/2008 11:23:56 AM

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bump for Ferg's effort...something little seen this season.

2/28/2008 11:27:14 AM

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Fergie
Fells
Grant
Smith
Hickson

2/28/2008 11:53:29 AM

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^ ftw if we can get the ball down the court

2/28/2008 12:01:55 PM

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I am in favor of just letting Smith, Fergie, and Harris all play significant minutes just to see if they can make a difference. Obviously playing our current rotation of lazy crybabies isn't getting it done so there is nothing to lose.

Honestly what the fuck is the difference if Johnson, Fells, and Costner ride the pine and Fergie, Smith, and Harris are playing? We are going to lose in embarrassing fashion either way.

2/28/2008 12:02:05 PM

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I decided today that bringing Ferg off the bench might be the best thing for team. It seemed that when the Duke would start making runs early in each half, we'd bring in Ferguson to settle everyone down. Never thought I'd see that happen. I never thought I'd actually rather see him on the court than Fells ...

Whether he starts or not, the guy needs to be getting major minutes from here on out. He's a playmaker, plain and simple.

3/1/2008 3:01:40 PM

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He also seems incredibly relaxed bringing the ball up the court, something he was once accused of not being able to do. He's arguably a better ballhandler than Javi and miles ahead of anyone else on the team.

3/1/2008 3:05:38 PM

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"He also seems incredibly relaxed bringing the ball up the court, something he was once accused of not being able to do. He's arguably a better ballhandler than Javi and miles ahead of anyone else on the team."


Are you fucking kidding me? You are either the biggest idiot in the world, a troll, or Trevor Ferguson's alias/brother/sister/mother/father.

3/1/2008 3:16:52 PM

Maverick1024
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Give me one bit of evidence that says otherwise

3/1/2008 3:18:27 PM

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He's not a better ballhandler than Javi...but other than Javi...I'd rather have the ball in Ferguson's hands than any other guard on our team.

Fells and Grant are adequate ballhandlers, but just seem to make terrible decisions with the ball. Johnson is just plain horrible. Fergie is a solid ballhandler and seem to be pretty smart with the ball.

3/1/2008 3:18:47 PM

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All of Johnson's minutes should go to Ferguson

3/1/2008 3:33:03 PM

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agreed. I couldnt believe it when I started yelling for ferg to be put back in the game every time MJ was pussing around with the ball like he does.

I like Ferg and Javi in the game together -we can actually move the ball.....

3/1/2008 4:26:06 PM

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agreed. fergie and javi were runnin the offense pretty well. i loved that stretch where mccauley kicked it out to fergie for 3, and then one play later kicked it out to gavin who fed javi for 3. that was awesome.

3/1/2008 8:02:14 PM

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fergie's made things happen the past couple weeks, he gets my vote for at least more PT, if not a start

3/1/2008 8:04:44 PM

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trevor did a lot more for us today than what you'll see on the stat sheet. he can really work the ball around well. makes a lot of passes that lead to assists, and he's good at feeding the ball inside. i think ben must love him after today, between fergie and javi getting it to him ben was lighting up the scoreboard.

3/1/2008 8:17:07 PM

simonn
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it is now seemingly possible that trevor ferguson is capable of contributing to an acc basketball team, and that makes me happy.

3/1/2008 8:44:13 PM

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His ability to make a post entry pass is much better than fells', which is fucking bizarre.

Fells should be better at the two man game with the big based on everything. Oh right, fells is a huge pussy.

3/1/2008 8:48:14 PM

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the future is always bright at ncstate

3/1/2008 8:48:37 PM

simonn
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^ do not get me wrong.

i'm not saying that at all.

3/1/2008 8:50:01 PM

skokiaan
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Earl is trolling

3/1/2008 9:04:07 PM

simonn
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i know, but he's not wrong in this case.

3/1/2008 9:18:21 PM

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Starting lineup for Next year PLEASE:

PG-Gonzalez/Degand
SG-Fergie/Mays
SF-Fells/Horner/Johnny Thomas
PF-Smith/Costner
C-Hickson(if hes back)/McCauley

Of course, some of those positions are interchangable.

I never wanna see marques johnson on the court again.

3/1/2008 11:02:58 PM

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i really think it'd be stupid for hickson to leave

he still has some things to work on. such as putting the ball back on the ground every time he gets the ball

3/1/2008 11:12:27 PM

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he certainly has some things to work on. going early his plan all along, right now he has to question whether or not he wants to deviate from it.

[Edited on March 1, 2008 at 11:23 PM. Reason : ^ kindof misread that]

3/1/2008 11:22:29 PM

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no simon i was just saying the future DOES seem really bright but it always is bright at ncstate kind of disapointingly.

i really think it'd be stupid for ben not to start.

and if johnny thomas is worse than horner cut him now! lol. i know he's gonna be instantly better than horner

we are almost guaranteed to have solid guardplay next year regardless if a starter gets hurt most of the season for the 4th consecutive year.

1.javi and degand with mays. wide open
2.fells then furg maybe with mays
3.thomas? williams? fells? costner? then horner
4.hopefully 07costner then smith
5.ben and hickson wide open

would be nice to see maybe 2 pgs at a time sometimes since we have 3. 4 including johnson who should quit.

cosnter is the real question for next year. if he is like he was in 07 we will be top 3 acc. we won't really miss grant.

3/1/2008 11:25:42 PM

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Quote :
"cosnter is and mccauley are the real question for next year."

3/1/2008 11:27:06 PM

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