Okay, y'know what?

Fine, screw it, I want in on this free crap from the government deal. Everybody lazy is benefitting, I work full time and I can't afford a house, and I don't have a big screen tv, a new or even new-ish car that isn't beat up, and I fork over about 1/3 of my paycheck to the government (yeah, no wonder I cant afford anything).


So how do you apply and what can you get? I'm serious. Is it all income based?

Do I agree with the programs, no. But realistically, i'm going to keep paying for them because they're not going to get cut or killed. I may as well look out for myself here.

[Edited on March 4, 2008 at 10:24 PM. Reason : .]

3/4/2008 10:24:03 PM

str8, I actually had a robocall to the house asking if I had trouble walking and press 4 on how I can get a free scooter from medicare. Ridiculous

3/4/2008 10:28:56 PM

If you fork over about 1/3 of your paycheck to the government you should be able to afford a house.

3/4/2008 11:34:57 PM

You'd think. No deductions is part of how i get there. and it's not exactly a third, just close. (state, federal, social security etc all inclusive)

3/4/2008 11:52:38 PM

Quote :

"LadyWolff: I normally will tip 20-25% if they do a really good job. However, I normally dont cross $40 at the salon any more. Most expensive I've ever done was about $160, $20 tip which isn't 25% but I didnt think that while the girl did an awesome job, it was a $40 tip awesome job. That was for interviews though, after a couple times there I coulnd't afford it anymore and now even though I can, I dont."

message_topic.aspx?topic=516777&page=1#11345684

You can afford $160 haircuts, but you can't afford a house?

The kind of girl who can "afford" $160 haircuts is also the kind of girl who can ask her parents for a house down payment.

I'm just saying something ain't adding up here...somebody's saying they want food stamps but simultaneously claiming they can afford $160 haircuts...

3/5/2008 12:33:55 AM

Quote :

"The Food Stamp people have to advertise, to keep the market for hand-outs high enough to justify their budget. The last thing they want is people fending for themselves."

3/5/2008 5:05:33 AM

As Neal Boortz says, "This country is turning into one huge assisted living facility"

3/5/2008 3:00:44 PM

Quote :

"At what threshold of income is it okay to have a car, cable tv, and air conditioning?"

at the point that you pay for your own heat, shelter, food and water. everything else is a luxary.

3/5/2008 3:08:59 PM

[Verse One: 2Pac]

Perhaps I was blind to the facts, stabbed in the back
I couldn't trust my own homies just a bunch a dirty rats
Will I, succeed, paranoid from the weed
And hocus pocus try to focus but I can't see
And in my mind I'ma blind man doin time
Look to my future cause my past, is all behind me
Is it a crime, to fight, for what is mine?
Everybody's dyin tell me what's the use of tryin
I've been Trapped since birth, cautious, cause I'm cursed
And fantasies of my family, in a hearse
And they say it's the white man I should fear
But, it's my own kind doin all the killin here
I can't lie, ain't no love for the other side
Jealousy inside, make em wish I died
Oh my Lord, tell me what I'm livin for
Everybody's droppin got me knockin on heaven's door
And all my memories, of seein brothers bleed
And everybody grieves, but still nobody sees
Recollect your thoughts don't get caught up in the mix
Cause the media is full of dirty tricks
Only God can judge me

[Chorus: 2Pac]

[synth voice] Only God can judge me
That's right baby, yeah baby
[synth voice] Only God
Hahahahahahahaha
[synth + Pac] Only God can judge me, only God can judge
[synth cont.] me, only God
Only God can judge me
[synth + Pac] Only God can judge me
And only God can
[synth voice] Only God can judge me, only God
Only God can judge me
[synth + Pac] Only God can judge me
Only God can judge me
[synth voice] Only God can judge me, only God
Only God can judge me
[synth voice] Only God can judge me now

[heart monitor: long beep]
Flatline!

[Verse Two: 2Pac]

I hear the doctor standing over me [heart monitor: beeping slowly]
screamin I can make it
Got a body full of bullet holes layin here naked
Still I, can't breathe, somethings evil in my IV
Cause everytime I breathe, I think they killin me [beeping sound stops]
I'm having nightmares, homicidal fantansies
I wake up stranglin, danglin my bed sheets
I call the nurse cause it hurts, to reminisce
How did it come to this? I wish they didn't miss
Somebody help me, tell me where to go from here
Cause even Thugs cry, but do the Lord care?
Try to remember, but it hurts
I'm walkin through the cemetary talkin to the, dirt
I'd rather die like a man, than live like a coward
There's a ghetto up in Heaven and it's ours, Black Power
is what we scream as we dream in a paranoid state
And our fate, is a lifetime of hate
Dear Mama, can you save me? And fuck peace
Cause the streets got our babies, we gotta eat
No more hesitation each and every black male's trapped
And they wonder why we suicidal runnin round strapped
Mista, Po-lice, please try to see that it's
a million motherfuckers stressin just like me
Only God can judge me

3/5/2008 3:16:04 PM

2pac?

3/5/2008 3:53:24 PM

from "all eyez on me"

3/5/2008 4:45:53 PM

I really hope you cut and pasted that instead of typing it.

Ive found that if you substitute a S with a Z, it usually infers intelligence.

3/5/2008 4:59:43 PM

Quote :

"You can afford $160 haircuts, but you can't afford a house? The kind of girl who can "afford" $160 haircuts is also the kind of girl who can ask her parents for a house down payment. I'm just saying something ain't adding up here...somebody's saying they want food stamps but simultaneously claiming they can afford $160 haircuts..."

Obviously, I'm saying

1. I make way way more than the income limit for foodstamps, I'm pissed as hell my taxes go to pay for other people to be lazy, I work my ass off, I'm still AT work as I type this and I didn't come in late mind you. And I'll be here another hour at least (and there was no hour for lunch to tack on to the end of the day either! Ate while I worked). If i can get any part of my taxes back anyway I can, you bet I'm taking it. Fuck it, I already paid for it! If the food stamp people can advertise bullshit like that, obviously we're no longer just targeting people really in need (who I might care about), but any lazy spendthrift that wants a free ride (who I certainly don't).

2. If you could read, you'd also see in that same post, that I spent that much *two* times in my life, and do in fact, no spend that regularly, nor currently. I got a really nice haircut, to look good at my interviews, to get a damn job. Oh noes.

3. Yes, I do have $160 spare a month. More than, and I put it in savings after 401k, to hopefully one day eventually years from now, have downpayment for a house. If you are aware of a nice house that has a $160 mortgage, boy aren't you lucky. last I checked, they're more.

4. Why the hell would I be asking my parents for anything? They make less income than I do, I pay for all of my stuff, myself. Not a boyfriend, not a parent, not some rich grandparents (that I don't have) If you think I was raised as a spoiled little brat who got everything she wanted because I got two expensive hair jobs in my life, you're insane. And no, my parents didn't pay for that EITHER.
Fuck you bitch, I'm offering to chip in on my brother's tuition (public, in state, so no it's not a fucking house payment either, and in my family education >>>> house) if they can't afford it anymore - which isn't far fetched, not leeching off my parents.


So how about you learn what "tounge in cheek" is when you see it, see my original post in this thread for an example, and stop assuming things about my family or how I was raised or what kind of spoiled brat I am since you obviously don't know jack or shit about it.



[Edited on March 5, 2008 at 7:11 PM. Reason : . Go to hell bridget]

[Edited on March 5, 2008 at 7:12 PM. Reason : Spelling]

3/5/2008 6:55:57 PM

^welcome to the conservative side of things lady.

Isnt it funny how the govt keeps on taking from you for doing nothing more than working and being successful to reward those who habitually make bad decisions.

There is no outcry about people who milk the system for food stamps, healthcare, housing yet have enough money for bmws, cellphones, etc. No outcry about these advertisements that encourage more waste with taxpayer dollars. Nope you get attacked on how you spend YOUR money on a haircut. You see thats what these new liberals hate. Your money is their money.

BHO has already stated that the rich "dont need" thier money. Like a lawyer/state senator is somehow able to access how much people "need" thier own possesions.

It sounds like you are doing the responsible thing. Working, saving, and prioritizing. These are dying virtues. Dont listen to many on this board on thier finances. You buy a things/house when you can afford it, not when you "want" it and later bitch that you cant afford anything.

[Edited on March 5, 2008 at 7:27 PM. Reason : .]

3/5/2008 7:25:56 PM

Quote :

"The type and formula of most schemes of philanthropy or humanitarianism is this: A and B put their heads together to decide what C shall be made to do for D. The radical vice of all these schemes, from a sociological point of view, is that C is not allowed a voice in the matter, and his position, character, and interests, as well as the ultimate effects on society through C's interests, are entirely overlooked. I call C the Forgotten Man. For once let us look him up and consider his case, for the characteristic of all social doctors is that they fix their minds on some man or group of men whose case appeals to the sympathies and the imagination, and they plan remedies addressed to the particular trouble; they do not understand that all the parts of society hold together, and that forces which are set in action act and react throughout the whole organism, until an equilibrium is produced by a readjustment of all interests and rights. They therefore ignore entirely the source from which they must draw all the energy which they employ in their remedies, and they ignore all the effects on other members of society than the ones they have in view. They are always under the dominion of the superstition of government, and, forgetting that a government produces nothing at all, they leave out of sight the first fact to be remembered in all social discussion — that the state cannot get a cent for any man without taking it from some other man, and this latter must be a man who has produced and saved it. This latter is the Forgotten Man. "

http://www.mises.org/story/2485

3/5/2008 8:38:16 PM

Quote :

"LadyWolff: Obviously, I'm saying 1. I make way way more than the income limit for foodstamps, I'm pissed as hell my taxes go to pay for other people to be lazy, I work my ass off, I'm still AT work as I type this and I didn't come in late mind you. And I'll be here another hour at least (and there was no hour for lunch to tack on to the end of the day either! Ate while I worked). If i can get any part of my taxes back anyway I can, you bet I'm taking it. Fuck it, I already paid for it! If the food stamp people can advertise bullshit like that, obviously we're no longer just targeting people really in need (who I might care about), but any lazy spendthrift that wants a free ride (who I certainly don't). 2. If you could read, you'd also see in that same post, that I spent that much *two* times in my life, and do in fact, no spend that regularly, nor currently. I got a really nice haircut, to look good at my interviews, to get a damn job. Oh noes. 3. Yes, I do have $160 spare a month. More than, and I put it in savings after 401k, to hopefully one day eventually years from now, have downpayment for a house. If you are aware of a nice house that has a $160 mortgage, boy aren't you lucky. last I checked, they're more. 4. Why the hell would I be asking my parents for anything? They make less income than I do, I pay for all of my stuff, myself. Not a boyfriend, not a parent, not some rich grandparents (that I don't have) If you think I was raised as a spoiled little brat who got everything she wanted because I got two expensive hair jobs in my life, you're insane. And no, my parents didn't pay for that EITHER. Fuck you bitch, I'm offering to chip in on my brother's tuition (public, in state, so no it's not a fucking house payment either, and in my family education >>>> house) if they can't afford it anymore - which isn't far fetched, not leeching off my parents. So how about you learn what "tounge in cheek" is when you see it, see my original post in this thread for an example, and stop assuming things about my family or how I was raised or what kind of spoiled brat I am since you obviously don't know jack or shit about it."

As far as "lazy spendthrifts" go, I am one. I'm a complete and total bum who has no desire/motivation to succeed in this society; I want just enough to barely get by, and I want to do the least amount of work necessary to achieve that. And I don't feel bad about it.

I do feel bad about making my post to you though. It was supposed to be an insult that was going to launch into my opinion on women/men/materialism/advertising/workplaces/money management/vanity/etc... I decided to curb all that since I figured you didn't deserve an insult and you weren't exactly a prime example to start such a discussion. I never should have posted it because what I did end up writing wasn't very clear.

I did not mean to imply that you were some "spoiled brat." In fact, I was trying to get at the opposite of that.

Anyway...the only people who should be getting $160 haircuts are those folks who:

1) have undesirable workplace hair that requires such an expensive haircut
2) are financially successful
3) are married to a financially successful person
4) are otherwise being supported by some financially successful person

This is not necessarily directed at you since you're obviously not a perpetual expensive haircut-getter.



I have certain opinions about the young middle class that the $160 haircut got me to thinking about. So many folks like to bitch about the poor fuckers out there, working shit jobs, collecting assistance, and buying a few dime bags of weed every month. But what about those other fuckers? What is it about making $35k+/year that automatically gives a person the right to go out and act a fool? Get $160 haircuts, bi-weekly mani/pedis, bikini waxes, expensive jewelry, hypertrendy clothes, phone covers to match their outfits, tanning sessions, $50 lip glosses, professional teeth whitenings, etc...?

There are a lot of people in this country with serious money management issues, and they're not living in trailer parks or ghettos. They're vain, compulsive, and materialistic, and they deserve our sympathy cause just like society can churn out poor folks, it also churns out these super spenders (debtors).

So if any of you are feeling bad about yourselves, and you need to put someone else down to pick yourself up...go for the dude in the next cubicle over with the new phone, new condo, and new car he wants to show you and consider the fact that maybe he's not the best benchmark to judge yourself by. Also, lay off the poor people and appreciate what you got. The dude getting food stamps and treating himself to a joint or some beer on his rainy day off is not the problem with America.

[Edited on March 6, 2008 at 3:53 AM. Reason : I have not slept in two days.]

3/6/2008 3:32:42 AM

Quote :

"What is it about making $35k+/year that automatically gives a person the right to go out and act a fool? Get $160 haircuts, bi-weekly mani/pedis, bikini waxes, expensive jewelry, hypertrendy clothes, phone covers to match their outfits, tanning sessions, $50 lip glosses, professional teeth whitenings, etc...? "

Wow. I would say because its THIER MONEY. Now if that same person was doing all that AND taking tax payer dollars hell yeah Id have a problem with it. I dont care if you have 8 kids as long as YOU pay for YOUR decision. As long as you arent taking taxpayer dollars no one should be able to comment on how you spend your money.

3/6/2008 9:58:29 AM

Quote :

"Wow. I would say because its THIER MONEY. Now if that same person was doing all that AND taking tax payer dollars hell yeah Id have a problem with it. I dont care if you have 8 kids as long as YOU pay for YOUR decision. As long as you arent taking taxpayer dollars no one should be able to comment on how you spend your money"

preach.

3/6/2008 3:25:48 PM

Quote :

" Mandy Locke, Staff Writer SMITHFIELD - At 79, Earl Rudd is worn out and nearly broke. Pride kept him from asking for help. Rudd realized recently that pride wasn't filling his cupboard. On Monday, he drove his Buick to Smithfield and applied for food stamps at the Johnston County Social Services office. "I've always been able to stand on my own two feet, but I just don't know how much longer I can do that," he said. Rudd is one of nearly half a million people across North Carolina who are too poor to afford healthful groceries, yet are not seeking help, the U.S. Department of Agriculture estimates. Now the agency is trying to reach them, particularly the elderly such as Rudd. Officials think a combination of pride, transportation challenges and confusion over the program keep many older residents away. To get out the word about food stamps, the USDA launched a $3 million advertising campaign this winter. Old-fashioned jingles are blaring across Triangle radio stations, coaxing people to apply. The USDA chose the Triangle and 34 other areas across America using poverty rates and low enrollment numbers. In the Triangle, only an estimated 60 percent of eligible residents are getting food stamps; nationally, 65 percent get food stamps, at a cost of about $33 billion. Johnston, Wake, Durham and Franklin counties' enrollments exceed the national average; Chatham and Orange counties are well below. Sandy Coletta, the Chatham social services director, said she's not sure why rates are so low in her county, but her agency is trying to boost enrollment by talking to church groups and senior centers. One jingle broadcast on oldies, rhythm and blues and country stations features a slick game-show guessing game to help clear up myths about eligibility requirements. Have a car? You can still get help. Money in the bank? Apply anyway. Single? You matter, too. Behind the commercials, though, is a sobering problem. A recent spike in grocery prices, brought on in part by a tripling in the cost of wheat, is pinching most Americans, none more than the poor and elderly on fixed incomes. Some analysts expect the prices of nearly 80 percent of grocery items to soar above normal inflation rates. Government officials have crunched numbers indicating that a single mother with one child can't afford to eat right if she earns less than $17,800 a year. The food stamp program, enacted during the Depression in the 1930s, was designed to give free food such as meat, milk, fruit and vegetables to needy people. It was also a boon to farmers, and improved the health of the nation's neediest families. "When you're in poverty, you don't buy nutritious food," said Dean Simpson, section chief for economic services at the state Division of Social Services. "Veggies are more expensive than potato chips. We don't want our poor subsisting on nothing but potato chips." Illness and bills Rudd planned to work, driving a truck or working a security detail, until he was no longer able. That point arrived sooner than he planned. A decade ago, cancer attacked both him and his late wife. He beat the disease, but it crippled his wife, Nellie. Rudd cared for her around the clock in their northwestern Johnston County home before her death in January. The years of bad health broke them. They had to refinance their home to pay medical bills; after making loan payments for more than 35 years, Rudd owes more than he borrowed to buy it. About a year and a half ago, Rudd and his wife fussed over the cost of an item in the aisle of a Food Lion store. A man approached and quietly slipped them a card for a local food pantry. Ever since, Rudd's been turning to Basic Needs Ministry for enough canned vegetables and bread to get through that final week before his monthly $905 Social Security check arrives. There, Rudd is modest about what he'll take. Often, he'll leave whatever meat the ministry might have for families and take extra canned beans instead. "It's hard, you could spend $100 a week right fast like," Rudd said. Tackling debt, with help Monday, he spent an hour telling intake worker Amanda Brewington his personal business. His insurance cards, driver's license and bank statements were strewn across her desk like a deck of cards. He shook his head every few seconds: No, he didn't own a motorcycle; no, he didn't have a burial plot; no, he's not on the lam from police. Brewington will double-check his information and see what kind of help she can offer. She'll calculate his monthly benefits by measuring his bills and debt against his monthly Social Security and a modest pension from Kmart. Rudd hopes that by this time next month, the county will issue him a look-alike credit card to help buy groceries. If not, he'll go back to the food pantry. This spring, he'll have to find a way to tackle the mounting hospital bills left from his wife's final days. "Boy, I never meant to be here," Rudd said, looking back at the social services building. "

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/story/1004106.html

3/18/2008 8:15:29 AM

^I read that this morning. I liked the way they kept it real and showed dude taking a break to smoke a cigarette.

3/18/2008 11:53:34 AM

Great. My tax money gets to pay for his cigarettes.

3/18/2008 1:16:25 PM

I don't know where the hell bridget came up with the cigarette thing.

3/18/2008 1:20:49 PM

It's in the picture.

3/18/2008 1:29:23 PM

either way, your tax dollars are not paying for his cigarettes.

3/18/2008 2:22:23 PM

Then who pays for his food stamps?

3/18/2008 2:24:55 PM

I mean I feel bad for the man after reading the article. That still does not change the fact the radio ads are stupid.

3/18/2008 3:09:00 PM

nutsmackr, his money issues were exacerbated by his and his wife's battles with cancer.

And he's still a smoker. It's meaningful.

3/18/2008 5:15:24 PM

Quote :

"Veggies are more expensive than potato chips. We don't want our poor subsisting on nothing but potato chips"

Where can I sign up? I'm sick of pb&j

3/18/2008 5:20:44 PM

^ http://www.ncdhhs.gov/dss/foodstamp/index.htm

Click "How To Apply"

[Edited on March 19, 2008 at 2:51 AM. Reason : sss]

3/19/2008 2:51:29 AM

Thanks!

Quote :

"Based on the information you provided, you may be eligible for between $145 to $155 in Food Stamps per month. "

Wow. I usually spend 100 a month on food. That's a lot of extra dough.

3/19/2008 10:05:51 AM

Quote :

"nutsmackr, his money issues were exacerbated by his and his wife's battles with cancer. And he's still a smoker. It's meaningful."

The man is 79 years-old let him smoke a fucking cigarette.

^You are a student, so I don't think you are eligible. And how do you only spend $100 a month on food?

[Edited on March 19, 2008 at 10:06 AM. Reason : .]

3/19/2008 10:05:51 AM

Get a damn job if he wants to have the luxury of smoking cigarettes.

3/19/2008 10:07:06 AM

the man worked his entire life and I assume now he is on disability, hence the fixed income. A 79 year old man shouldn't have to be working at his age and furthermore, a 79 year old man shouldn't have to ask the government to help pay for his food.

The man has paid his dues, it's about time we do something for him.

3/19/2008 10:11:29 AM

Haha. "paid his dues" Why should I do something for him?

3/19/2008 10:15:07 AM

cigs or not, I have no problem with the man receiving food stamps. people like him are not the problem. career welfare moms who spit out kids to increase their gubment payout are.

3/19/2008 10:22:50 AM

Quote :

"You are a student, so I don't think you are eligible. And how do you only spend $100 a month on food?"

It's okay for students to starve, but not welfare moms? Lame.

I eat lots of pb&j and 79 cent pizzas.

3/19/2008 10:26:04 AM

Quote :

"It's okay for students to starve, but not welfare moms? Lame. I eat lots of pb&j and 79 cent pizzas."

the premise is that parents help their children while in college. That is why financial aid is directly tied the parents' income.

And no, the food stamps are not for the "welfare moms," its for the children. After all, America has a long standing tradition of not punishing people for who their parents are.

Quote :

"Haha. "paid his dues" Why should I do something for him?"

Because we are a land of great wealth and excess. We should help out the less fortunate and we should especially help out the elderly who have worked their entire goddamned lives and did not have the same advantages as you. These are also the same elderly that paved the way and allowed for you to have the life that you have now. So quit being such a selfish fucking dick.

[Edited on March 19, 2008 at 10:36 AM. Reason : .]

[Edited on March 19, 2008 at 10:41 AM. Reason : .]

3/19/2008 10:34:59 AM

kids are fine. kids should eat no matter how much of a low life their parents are. this old man should eat.

people who abuse the system should not get rewarded for and are a big part of the problems I have with it.

3/19/2008 10:36:22 AM

Quote :

"kids are fine. kids should eat no matter how much of a low life their parents are. this old man should eat. people who abuse the system should not get rewarded for and are a big part of the problems I have with it."

That is the exact same way I feel on the matter.

3/19/2008 10:37:12 AM

Quote :

"So quit being such a selfish fucking dick."

I never said he shouldn't eat. It just seems that if he didn't spend money on cigarettes he would have more money to spend on food. Right? Unless of course he wants to take up a more deadly habit that would kill him off quicker. I'm all for my taxes going towards that.

3/19/2008 11:03:43 AM

Quote :

"It just seems that if he didn't spend money on cigarettes he would have more money to spend on food. Right? "

Bingo. I feel for the guy, but certainly the cigarettes aren't helping his financial situation any.

3/19/2008 11:13:59 AM

^^You want your tax money to go to the speedy death of old people.

That's good stuff.

Seriously, it's hilarious what a gigantic douche bag you are.

^The medical bills are the big problem. And for these determinations, we have to look at income, not what people are spending their income on. If someone makes $1,000/month and chooses to scrimp on clothes/toiletries/gas in order to smoke cigarettes, that's their right...they still get food stamps. They could cut out the smoking, but they're still only bringing a grand so they still get foodstamps. A grand is a grand is a grand, no matter what you spend it on.

Do you understand?

Quote :

"nutsmackr: The man is 79 years-old let him smoke a fucking cigarette."

Of course.

Now I see I should not have brought up the smoking at all. I was just commending the N/O for keeping it real. I can appreciate this man's life and the decisions he has made; I didn't realize other folks (^^) would be so lame.

[Edited on March 19, 2008 at 11:32 AM. Reason : sss]

3/19/2008 11:25:05 AM

Quote :

"the premise is that parents help their children while in college. That is why financial aid is directly tied the parents' income."

Except their algorithm for calculating parental assistance is WAY skewed. According to the office of financial aid every year i've been in school except last year (dad was jobless for 1/2 the year) my family contribution was something ridiculous like $11,000. My parents combined income is def above the US household median but 11K is still a very large chunk out of their after-tax income. Needless to say i never saw a fraction of that money espicially after i started paying my own rent and food after my sophmore yet. I do not blame them though they have their own retirement to be saving for, a daughter still as dependent, and various other financial goals.

Yet somehow its fair though that someone whose dad sits around all day drinking beer being worthless collecting welfare, will end up getting a "need based" grant paid bythe hard work of my parents through taxes.

3/19/2008 11:26:49 AM

Quote :

"You want your tax money to go to the speedy death of old people."

Yes. Once the people who don't contribute to society die off then I won't be forced to provide for them.

3/19/2008 11:31:45 AM

Quote :

"HUR: Needless to say i never saw a fraction of that money espicially after i started paying my own rent and food after my sophmore yet. I do not blame them though they have their own retirement to be saving for, a daughter still as dependent, and various other financial goals. Yet somehow its fair though that someone whose dad sits around all day drinking beer being worthless collecting welfare, will end up getting a "need based" grant paid bythe hard work of my parents through taxes."

My parents don't give me any money so I'm gonna bitch about kids on grants who grew up in poverty!!!

HILARIOUS!

It's fine to bitch about your financial aid (I think your school should be free), but why you gotta bring the kid of a lazy, alcoholic father into it? That's so backwards.

Furthermore, your parents need to stop claiming you as a dependent if they're not supporting you. They're ripping you off.

Quote :

"David0603: Yes. Once the people who don't contribute to society die off then I won't be forced to provide for them."

No need to explain. Not that hard to figure out as it's an extremely unoriginal sentiment popularized by the Nazis. Somebody call it...

[Edited on March 19, 2008 at 12:02 PM. Reason : sss]

3/19/2008 11:43:39 AM

Quote :

"Yes. Once the people who don't contribute to society die off then I won't be forced to provide for them."

how do you determine someone's contribution to society? Is this calculation based strictly on earnings and potential earnings?

3/19/2008 11:45:50 AM

Quote :

"Furthermore, your parents need to stop claiming you as a dependent if they're not supporting you. They're ripping you off."

My parents DON't claim me as a dependent and haven't since the 2004 tax return (which is filed in 2005). This makes no difference though to financial aid. For their system you must be/turn 24 during the academic year, be in grad school, be married, have a child dependant, be an orphan, or a vet.

3/19/2008 11:48:38 AM

^Whoa, that's fucked up.

3/19/2008 12:02:16 PM

So if I had gotten married at 18, I could have avoided the massive amounts of student loans that I have now cause I could get financial aid?

3/19/2008 12:25:36 PM

^Okay, I'm confused. You didn't qualify for financial aid, but you had to take out loans? Did you go to a private school?

And, yeah, being married generally gets good stuff sent your way because you're supposedly helping to create a more stable society by being married.

3/19/2008 12:30:52 PM