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"Some of those faces in that picture are friends of mine."

me too...but i cant make out their faces...seems the buttfuckington post only wanted you to see 2 faces in that picture

3/26/2008 10:01:13 AM

Like it or not, the fact that so many people are getting worked up means that the artist succeeded in making a powerful statement.

I've got to wonder if any skill was involved or if there is software to do this for you. I'd bet the software exists whether or not the person used it to create this image.

3/26/2008 10:05:13 AM

Yea there's software out there that does this.

3/26/2008 10:06:50 AM

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"me too...but i cant make out their faces...seems the buttfuckington post only wanted you to see 2 faces in that picture"

you obviously missed the point of the statement I was making.

3/26/2008 10:10:13 AM

i have 6 friends that have been to Iraq


4 came back in a pinebox

1 came back without a leg


and I find that image to be completely and totally unacceptable.

[Edited on March 26, 2008 at 11:52 AM. Reason : Afghanistan correction.]

3/26/2008 11:46:04 AM

my cousin came back without the ability to use his right arm.

I find the picture to be incredibly stupid.

3/26/2008 11:48:20 AM

^^^i love when people say someone missed the point, then do absolutely nothing to clarify what the point was

3/26/2008 12:15:30 PM

misplaced indignation.

It's easy to say, "Support the Troops" as a hollow catch phrase

3/26/2008 12:17:01 PM

its also pretty easy to actually mentally support the troops regardless of how much you dislike the war or think the war is pointless

all our servicemen (servicepeople) who have served in afghanistan or iraq are doing great services for this country...and it completely disrespects their memories and their accomplishments to trivialize their deaths and service to the country by just mosaicking some picture of bush and mccain smiling (hey mccain is running for president this year, funny how he is in the picture)

3/26/2008 12:18:12 PM

i don't see what's so unacceptable about this image. Is it simply because it's arranged to look like Bush?
Would it be a offensive to you if it was just a block of 4000 thumbnails thrown in at random?

3/26/2008 12:19:05 PM

no, it's offensive because it looks like the 2 people most responsible for their deaths

3/26/2008 12:20:32 PM

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"Would it be a offensive to you if it was just a block of 4000 thumbnails thrown in at random?"

of course not

hey maybe we can tear down the vietnam memorial and rebuild it into a shape that mysteriously resembles LBJ

3/26/2008 12:21:25 PM

^ Ouch! Nice one

3/26/2008 12:26:47 PM

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"all our servicemen (servicepeople) who have served in afghanistan or iraq are doing great services for this country...and it completely disrespects their memories and their accomplishments to trivialize their deaths and service to the country by just mosaicking some picture of bush and mccain smiling (hey mccain is running for president this year, funny how he is in the picture)"

Why are you attempting to attach afghanistan to Iraq? This has nothing to do with Afghanistan.

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"its also pretty easy to actually mentally support the troops regardless of how much you dislike the war or think the war is pointless"

Just another empty platitude for conservative cunts to run around spouting as if the liberals didn't support the troops. Here is the message, I and my liberal colleagues do not like seeing people killed for nothing.

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"hey maybe we can tear down the vietnam memorial and rebuild it into a shape that mysteriously resembles LBJ"

and maybe I can tear down your house and rebuild it in the shape of Arianna Huffington.

3/26/2008 12:33:05 PM

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"Why are you attempting to attach afghanistan to Iraq? This has nothing to do with Afghanistan."

actually i should tie it into the entire arabian gulf. iraq/iran/pakistan/afghanistan/saudi arabia... they all have these things called terrorists aka the italian mafia on steroids with japanese kamikazee moves. they all need to die. if what you say is correct then we shouldn't have even touched afganistan either. b/c they have NOTHING in common.

go smack your nutz. that's about all you're good at.

3/26/2008 12:40:23 PM

it's war on planet earth survival of the fittest[like chit chat forum], welcome to your evolution at its finest liberals.

if you don't support the masses you live with you die. bwhahahahaha bannished!!!

3/26/2008 12:42:25 PM

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"Why are you attempting to attach afghanistan to Iraq?"

I'm not, why are you attempting to insinuate that I am? I'm saying we have brave soldiers in both Afghanistan and Iraq, among other places...they are all doing heroic work...don't change the subject to insinuating that I'm trying to link Iraq to 9/11...but also don't ignore the glaring fact that we have US soldiers fighting in each of those countries

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"Just another empty platitude for conservative cunts to run around spouting as if the liberals didn't support the troops"

what the fuck is so hard about supporting the troops? i already said you could support them regardless of how much you hate the war or disagree with it...you're saying 'support the troops' is a hollow phrase, then you're getting mad when someone implies you don't support the troops? then you act like conservatives just LOVE having dead american soldiers and that they're being "killed for nothing"...for nothing? i've had friends die in iraq but the ones who made it back knew the progress being made and that their work was good and necessary...i'll take their word as a lot more reliable than yours

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"maybe I can tear down your house and rebuild it in the shape of Arianna Huffington."

that makes no sense at all, but whatever

3/26/2008 12:43:47 PM

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"actually i should tie it into the entire arabian gulf. iraq/iran/pakistan/afghanistan/saudi arabia... they all have these things called terrorists aka the italian mafia on steroids with japanese kamikazee moves. they all need to die. if what you say is correct then we shouldn't have even touched afganistan either. b/c they have NOTHING in common. go smack your nutz. that's about all you're good at."

Al Qaeda attacked the United States of America, the Taliban (main faction in Afghanistan) was harboring al Qaeda. The United States of America had every right to go to Afghanistan and go after the people who attacked the United States of America.

Iraq did not attack the United States of America. Iraq was not harboring the people who attacked the United States of America. Iraq had absolutely nothing at all to do with the attacks of September 11, 2001. Iraq is not Afghanistan. The Untied States had no business attacking Iraq.

You also need to learn geography and how to differentiate people.

3/26/2008 12:47:00 PM

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"Iraq was not harboring the people who attacked the United States of America"

they were still harboring terrorists...and you know who was harboring the people who attacked the US? nobody cause they died in the plane crashes

and we all know those countries who harbor terrorists will be "brought to justice"

3/26/2008 12:49:53 PM

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"Here is the message, I and my liberal colleagues do not like seeing people killed for nothing. "

So then, let them die for SOMETHING! My gosh!

Atleast give them some honor. Atleast let them enjoy the fact that they fought for some important cause. Even if that cause is a grandeur dream of spreading democracy, or the smell of world peace, or cheaper oil, or for some old crook who lives in a white house, or for just the slight sensation of patriotism from their service. It doesn't matter. They died for something. Not nothing.

Going around and belittling their sacrafices and claiming that they died for NOTHING is pathetic and appauling.

3/26/2008 12:51:08 PM

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"I'm not, why are you attempting to insinuate that I am? I'm saying we have brave soldiers in both Afghanistan and Iraq, among other places...they are all doing heroic work...don't change the subject to insinuating that I'm trying to link Iraq to 9/11...but also don't ignore the glaring fact that we have US soldiers fighting in each of those countries"

Because these soldiers who are in the Mosaic did not die in Afghanistan. There is no reason at all to bring Afghanistan into this thread. You are the one who brought Afghanistan into this thread. So quit trying to link the failed war in Iraq with Afghanistan.

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"what the fuck is so hard about supporting the troops? i already said you could support them regardless of how much you hate the war or disagree with it...you're saying 'support the troops' is a hollow phrase, then you're getting mad when someone implies you don't support the troops? then you act like conservatives just LOVE having dead american soldiers and that they're being "killed for nothing"...for nothing? i've had friends die in iraq but the ones who made it back knew the progress being made and that their work was good and necessary...i'll take their word as a lot more reliable than yours"

Saying you support the troops and actually supporting the troops are entirely 100% different from each other. Sure you can tie a yellow ribbon round the old oak tree, but that is meaningless. Sure you can put a fucking ribbon on your fucking car, but that is pointless. Anyone can say they support the troops. Where is the sacrifice? If you want to support the troops, then you better be able to sacrifice in order to do so. Carrying on your merry way in life is not supporting the troops.

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" that makes no sense at all, but whatever"

Exactly, just like your little banal post.

3/26/2008 12:51:38 PM

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"they were still harboring terrorists...and you know who was harboring the people who attacked the US? nobody cause they died in the plane crashes and we all know those countries who harbor terrorists will be "brought to justice""

I guess you never heard of al Qaeda. You know, the group that attacked the United States of America. So if this is about the war on Terror, why did we attack Iraq? They had absolutely nothing at all to do with Terror. If you want to go after countries who harbor and support terrorists, then invade Saudi Arabia, not Iraq.

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" So then, let them die for SOMETHING! My gosh! Atleast give them some honor. Atleast let them enjoy the fact that they fought for some important cause. Even if that cause is a grandeur dream of spreading democracy, or the smell of world peace, or cheaper oil, or for some old crook who lives in a white house, or for just the slight sensation of patriotism from their service. It doesn't matter. They died for something. Not nothing. Going around and belittling their sacrafices and claiming that they died for NOTHING is pathetic and appauling."

the truth is not appalling, the truth is not pathetic. It is appalling to send someone to die for trumped up reasons. It is appalling to use terror as a gun. It is appalling to invade a foreign country that poses no threat, no threat, to the United States of America. It is appalling for our leaders to masquerade around the country as if we give 2 shits about the men and women who have died in the war in Iraq. And it is even more to think that the sacrifice of their life is some how less traumatic, less obscene because we have given them some fake cause in order to die for it. That is appalling. The truth can never be appalling.

[Edited on March 26, 2008 at 12:56 PM. Reason : .]

3/26/2008 12:53:24 PM

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"So quit trying to link the failed war in Iraq with Afghanistan."

quit acting like most of the soldiers who fight for our country have a say as to where they fight

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"Carrying on your merry way in life is not supporting the troops."

i suppose denouncing the war on TWW is your great patriotic way of supporting the troops?

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"So if this is about the war on Terror, why did we attack Iraq?"

Iraq was harboring terrorists...I already told you...Bush said countries that harbor terrorists will be brought to justice...can you read?

Let alone the other 17 UN violations that you people like to conveniently ignore

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"the truth is not appalling, the truth is not pathetic. It is appalling to send someone to die for trumped up reasons. It is appalling to use terror as a gun. It is appalling to invade a foreign country that poses no threat, no threat, to the United States of America. It is appalling for our leaders to masquerade around the country as if we give 2 shits about the men and women who have died in the war in Iraq. And it is even more to think that the sacrifice of their life is some how less traumatic, less obscene because we have given them some fake cause in order to die for it. That is appalling. The truth can never be appalling."

i'll bet you thought that was deep and moving didnt you...whats really appalling is YOU thinking YOU know the reasons of the war...that you think that you know what threat Iraq posed to the US...that you think that our leaders don't care about our soldiers...you seem like you're just looking for someone to blame...and i obviously wouldnt expect you to blame the people blowing themselves up each day...no you'd rather blame the good old united states

3/26/2008 12:54:22 PM

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"quit acting like most of the soldiers who fight for our country have a say as to where they fight"

Are you this ignorant on purpose? This thread is about a mosaic being made with the pictures of the 4000 men and women who have died in Iraq, not Afghanistan. Quit trying to lump the two together.

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"i suppose denouncing the war on TWW is your great patriotic way of supporting the troops?"

And you running around with your head up your ass is your great patriotic way of supporting the troops?

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"Iraq was harboring terrorists...I already told you...Bush said countries that harbor terrorists will be brought to justice...can you read? Let alone the other 17 UN violations that you people like to conveniently ignore"

What terrorists? The terrorists were not there before the United States invaded. We created those terrorists.

And UN violations? Israel has more violations than that.

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"i'll bet you thought that was deep and moving didnt you...whats really appalling is YOU thinking YOU know the reasons of the war...that you think that you know what threat Iraq posed to the US...that you think that our leaders don't care about our soldiers...you seem like you're just looking for someone to blame...and i obviously wouldnt expect you to blame the people blowing themselves up each day...no you'd rather blame the good old united states"

I blame the people who send American citizens to die in trumped up wars. Iraq posed 100% no threat to America.

[Edited on March 26, 2008 at 1:03 PM. Reason : .]

3/26/2008 1:02:19 PM

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"This thread is about a mosaic being made with the pictures of the 4000 men and women who have died in Iraq, not Afghanistan. Quit trying to lump the two together."

how dare you compare our soldiers! theres no place for me to hear such nonsense!

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"The terrorists were not there before the United States invaded. We created those terrorists."

wow your talking points are fucking pathetic

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"Iraq posed 100% no threat to America."

according to your opinion, which means nothing

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"I blame the people who send American citizens to die in trumped up wars. "

i blame the parents for sending their kid to school to try and make the world a better place, not the rapist who rapes the parents' daughter

3/26/2008 1:03:57 PM

truth /tru?/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[trooth] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation,
–noun, plural truths /truðz, tru?s/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[troothz, trooths] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation.
1. the true or actual state of a matter: He tried to find out the truth.
2. conformity with fact or reality; verity: the truth of a statement.
3. a verified or indisputable fact, proposition, principle, or the like: mathematical truths.
4. the state or character of being true.
5. actuality or actual existence.
6. an obvious or accepted fact; truism; platitude.
7. honesty; integrity; truthfulness.
8. (often initial capital letter) ideal or fundamental reality apart from and transcending perceived experience: the basic truths of life.
9. agreement with a standard or original.
10. accuracy, as of position or adjustment.

3/26/2008 1:09:24 PM

wow quoting dictionary.com (or some dictionary site)...to try and make your opinion turn into a fact, which it isnt

I'm still going to take the personal verbal accounts of progress in Iraq from friends of mine who served there and returned home over your opinions of why the war wasnt fair or just

3/26/2008 1:12:31 PM

the progress of the war has absolutely nothing to do with the purpose of the war.

3/26/2008 1:13:14 PM

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"the truth is not appalling, the truth is not pathetic. It is appalling to send someone to die for trumped up reasons. It is appalling to use terror as a gun. It is appalling to invade a foreign country that poses no threat, no threat, to the United States of America. It is appalling for our leaders to masquerade around the country as if we give 2 shits about the men and women who have died in the war in Iraq. And it is even more to think that the sacrifice of their life is some how less traumatic, less obscene because we have given them some fake cause in order to die for it. That is appalling. The truth can never be appalling."

Those truths are beside the point. You're welcome to proclaim how evil Bush is and how it's soooooo wrong that we went into Iraq. But, there is no need to disgrace dead people in your argument.

The important truth is that they died. The truth is that they sacraficed their lives. That's the only truth that counts. Doesn't matter if they died for a good or bad cause. They died fighting for someone or something. And that is honorable. To go around proclaiming that they didn't die for anything is just wrong.

If a dead soldier were to come back to life, and you said straight to his face, "You died for NOTHING!"... I don't think he/she would appreciate it much. Neither do we.

3/26/2008 1:19:20 PM

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"Those truths are beside the point. You're welcome to proclaim how evil Bush is and how it's soooooo wrong that we went into Iraq. But, there is no need to disgrace dead people in your argument. The important truth is that they died. The truth is that they sacraficed their lives. That's the only truth that counts. Doesn't matter if they died for a good or bad cause. They died fighting for someone or something. And that is honorable. To go around proclaiming that they didn't die for anything is just wrong. If a dead soldier were to come back to life, and you said straight to his face, "You died for NOTHING!"... I don't think he/she would appreciate it much. Neither do we. "

well said.

3/26/2008 1:23:21 PM

Get off your fucking high and mighty bullshit.

Saying that they died for nothing does not take away their honor.

Coming up with bullshit reasons for why they died takes away their honor..

[Edited on March 26, 2008 at 1:26 PM. Reason : .]

3/26/2008 1:24:55 PM

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"Coming up with bullshit reasons for why they died takes away their honor.. "

Practice what you preach.

3/26/2008 1:31:02 PM

I have yet to devise a single bullshit reason.

3/26/2008 1:36:40 PM

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" of course not hey maybe we can tear down the vietnam memorial and rebuild it into a shape that mysteriously resembles LBJ"

This mosaic is hardly the Vietnam Wall. If this picture was created by the government using tax money and plastered on the side of Capitol Hill as a permanent memorial, then yeah - we have a problem. But it's not - its some dude at a computer with too much time on his hands.

3/26/2008 2:07:19 PM

Is this the american nerd version of saber rattling?

3/26/2008 2:20:41 PM

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"Iraq was harboring terrorists...I already told you...Bush said countries that harbor terrorists will be brought to justice...can you read?"

Is there any evidence to substantiate the claim that Iraq was harboring terrorists? My understanding was that any terrorist groups within Iraq's borders were no different than terrorist groups within our own borders. Timothy McVeigh lived within our borders, but that doesn't mean that our government was harboring him.

[Edited on April 7, 2008 at 5:49 PM. Reason : Luis Posada Carriles, on the other hand... ]

4/7/2008 5:48:19 PM