whats a spleen do, do you need it? or is it like an appendix

9/24/2008 9:50:21 PM

Harris is a baller...I like the way he plays the game

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"Somewhere, Plaxico Burress is weeping."

somewhere is right...do you know where somewhere is? i tried to find out but he's not answering phone calls

9/24/2008 9:51:17 PM

No word yet on whether Harris' injury was the result of a punch from a teammate.

9/24/2008 11:09:27 PM

i'm pretty sure it was from tackling MB3 for a 2 yard gain on a run outside to the right

question for you Ernie...if Favre plays this year and maybe one more year with the Jets, and then wants to do one of those sign-for-a-day things with the Packers so he can retire a Packer, how would you feel about that?

9/24/2008 11:12:45 PM

Wouldn't bother me

I don't see it happening, though

[Edited on September 24, 2008 at 11:16 PM. Reason : ]

9/24/2008 11:13:48 PM

I think if he does play there 2 years some of the animosity between Favre and Packers fans will have subsided, especially if Rodgers continues to play well...if Favre continues to stink for the Jets, where do you think HE would prefer to retire?

9/24/2008 11:22:14 PM

There is zero animosity between Packers fans and Favre

9/24/2008 11:23:29 PM

all it took was 3 games? its still a long season

9/24/2008 11:25:53 PM

There never really was much "animosity" from Packer fans at large; just frustration about his waffling.

9/24/2008 11:39:55 PM

Aaron Rouse!

10/19/2008 6:58:25 PM

4-3!

w000w000


I bet manning was glad to be in Wisconsin. He may have needed more cheese then the entire state can produce for his wine though.

10/20/2008 8:35:25 AM

11/19/2008 4:34:32 PM

somebody needs to stop taking grooming advice from jake plummer

11/19/2008 4:37:05 PM

In 'stache we trust

11/19/2008 4:41:33 PM

11/19/2008 4:42:09 PM

That picture would be more awesome if we hadn't lost that game

11/19/2008 4:44:06 PM

More like 2008 Green Bay Packers Thread

12/14/2008 6:04:39 PM

With Favre 13-3 losing in the NFC Championship game to the eventual Super Bowl Champs

Without Favre 5-10 with one game to play.

Just Saying.....

12/23/2008 9:13:41 AM

Can Favre play defense and special teams? Otherwise the Packers would still be 5-10 with him.

12/23/2008 9:24:56 AM

Well I just think Favre wins most of these 4th qtr losses that GB has had.

1.) With Farve in there I truly believe the offense would score more and be on the field longer.

2.) because of # 1 this would keep the D off the field as much.

3.) With Rodgers there were alot of 3 and outs ....and he has not been able to get the job done in the 4th qtr when they needed a drive at the end of the game. (maybe in the future he will) but not this year.

4.) With Favre in there this year I truly believe GB not only makes the playoffs but wins their division.

12/23/2008 10:09:24 AM

Rodgers had a great year, Favre lead the league in interceptions. If we still had Favre, he wouldn't have produced better than Rodgers, we still would have had no running game, no rush defense, and Rodgers would have been held back another year. The guy came out of the gate on fire, he definitely wasn't the problem with this team.

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"(maybe in the future he will)"

Exactly! That's why Favre wasn't brought back. The sooner we got Rodgers on the field, the sooner he learns to be a great QB. Had Thompson kept Favre around, you'd be saying "maybe in the future" next year, not this year.

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"1.) With Farve in there I truly believe the offense would score more and be on the field longer. "

For what it's worth, the Packers scored more than the Jets.

[Edited on December 23, 2008 at 1:06 PM. Reason : ]

12/23/2008 1:00:19 PM

Ernie - I didn't say that Rodgers didn't have a good year I agree he did stat wise. But he didn't get it done in the 4th qtr when he needed to. You really can't compare Favre's year this year to Rodgers different teams. Favre took a team that had 4 wins last year and brought to the brink of the playoffs. Where as Rodgers took a team that had 13 wins last year and has 5 this year. We can agree to disagree, and besides it is what it is. We are both Packers fans we just disagree with who should have been QB this year, but like I said...it is what it is.

12/23/2008 1:33:00 PM

Yeah, but there's really no good reason to wish we had Favre this season. The offense wasn't on the field any less (58 plays per game this year and last); our scoring average was practically unchanged (27.2 to 26.5); our third down conversion rate this year was 44% (6th in the league), last year it was 43%.

The offense was not the problem. It was the defense, which allowed almost a touchdown more per game this year than last (24.2 ppg in 2008, 18.2 in 2007). Brett Favre and Aaron Rodgers do not play defense.

12/23/2008 1:45:35 PM

OK like I said it isn't about stats...it's about field presence etc....
example....You put Rodgers with the Jets this year and I don't think they would even win 5 games.

12/23/2008 2:28:28 PM

You can't throw out the stats. We replaced Favre with Rodgers and there was almost no difference in offensive output. Our 2008 offense was 99.9% of what our 2007 defense was. We lost games because of our defense, which was absolutely atrocious, not because of Rodgers' 'field presence'. If our defense hadn't allowed four touchdowns a game, we wouldn't have needed Favre's 'field presence' to win those games in the fourth quarter; we wouldn't have been in those situations.

12/23/2008 3:06:06 PM

I agree that the D has sucked this year, no one can argue that. My point however and where I disagree with you Ernie is not the overall stats of Rodgers, but his effectiveness when it counts. Again if for example Rodgers had been QB for the Jets this year they would probably have 3 or 4 wins now vs the 9 that they have now with Favre. Regardless of his overall stats....when it counts in the 4th quarter when they needed a sustained drive or a score he has either not gotten it done or thrown an INT. That is a fact...I hope he gets better when it counts, but regardless of how bad the D has played they have had 4 or 5 chances late in the game to win, and he has not got the job done.

12/24/2008 12:16:34 PM

Look at Rodgers' late game comeback numbers...they're not as straight forward as they appear...he actually led the Packers downfield on the Panthers and took the lead late in the game...but it was the defense who then allowed the Panthers to drive downfield and score themselves...then Rodgers throws a pick with like 20 seconds left and he gets credit for not making a late game comeback...that was all on the defense...I'm sure that wasn't the only game that turned out like that for yall this year

12/24/2008 12:19:40 PM

I agree the panthers game wasn't on Rodgers....but there were others trust me.

12/24/2008 12:26:04 PM

Sure, Rodgers has thrown a couple of game ending interceptions that he forced. No denying that.

But how can you really fault him when they're always on the third 4th quarter drive he's had to lead to put us ahead? Keep in mind that the Packers lead the NFL in 4th quarter scoring.

The past few games have all been the same. We lead take the lead/tie it in the 3rd or 4th, the defense gives up points, we drive down the field and tie it, then the defense gives the points right back, then we drive down the field and tie it, then...

The defense has been the problem this year. Aaron Rodgers is the least of Packer fans concerns.

[Edited on December 25, 2008 at 2:21 AM. Reason : .]

12/25/2008 2:19:32 AM