im at work so i cant download it.

i cant imagine its that great though. its just crazy that its actually out after all the wait.

[Edited on June 19, 2008 at 12:07 PM. Reason : d]

6/19/2008 12:06:13 PM

is this a joke? i guess i'll dl it and give it a listen

6/19/2008 12:08:26 PM

i guess its not complete



[Edited on June 19, 2008 at 12:17 PM. Reason : V]

6/19/2008 12:08:50 PM

It hasn't completely leaked unless you have 15 tracks.

If what you're calling a "leak" are the 9 tracks that came out this past weekend, then it's not the real deal.

6/19/2008 12:15:20 PM

are they demos or what

and are they good

6/19/2008 12:16:26 PM

^^ it's the 9 song deal. haven't listened to it, though.

6/19/2008 12:17:56 PM

^ that's what I figured.

Of those 9, 6 of those have been around for a while, but the version of "Madagascar" on that 9 track copy is different.

The full leak is supposed to have a tracklisting as this:

Better
Catcher in the Rye
Chinese Democracy
I.R.S.
If The World
Madagascar
Prostitute
Sorry
The Blues
There Was ATime
Rhiad and the Bedouins
Oh My God
Silk Worms
Ides of March
Leave Me Alone

Maybe Axl's gone off the deep end and decided to only release 9 of those, but I highly doubt it. This thing has "leaked" about once a year for the last 3 years in some form or another... everytime the links get pulled and it falls back into obscurity for another year and then re-emerges with a few of the same tracks re-worked.

This is the first time that this many have came out, so perhaps we're on the verge of the full leak and release.

6/19/2008 12:20:49 PM

the track list is apparently:

1. Chinese Democracy
2. Better
3. IRS
4. Madagascar
5. New Song #1 (Rhiad and the Bedouins)
6. New Song #2 (This I Love)
7. The Blues
8. New Song #3 (If the World(Would End Today))
9. There was a Time

6/19/2008 12:22:07 PM

I'm gettin

1. Better
2. The Blues
3. Chinese Democracy
4. IRS
5. Madagascar
6. New Song #1
7. New Song #2
8. New Song #3
9. There Was A Time

6/19/2008 12:25:43 PM

im just repeating what someone else posted on another board, so i dont know how accurate it is.

6/19/2008 12:27:38 PM

^ no, you're right--9 of 'em are definitely out there. I was only questioning whether those are the final mixed 9 and whether the true full leak would contain the 15 that were supposedly on the track listing.

For all we know, he may have cut it back to 9 for the record. Billboard had an article about it this morning:

http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003818521

[Edited on June 19, 2008 at 12:39 PM. Reason : .]

6/19/2008 12:39:21 PM

partial leak, sweet

i hope your leak isn't a virus sober

so far, it doesn't have a GnR feel to it. Its like they tried to update the sound to be new and hipper...but I don't think I can quite describe it right.

[Edited on June 22, 2008 at 3:15 AM. Reason : its, okay]

6/22/2008 2:47:06 AM

overwhelming disappointment

6/22/2008 12:02:57 PM

basically

hopefully the balances can be reworked and the songs can sound better, but as it is....no.

6/22/2008 12:32:04 PM

6/22/2008 12:57:47 PM

there's really no way it could ever live up to expectations

i think somewhere i heard chris cornell tell slash "i think i know the perfect guy for velvet revolver"

slash assumes he's talking about himself (cornell) replacing weiland and asks "who's that?"

to which cornell replied "axl rose"

6/22/2008 1:12:41 PM

better is all ive heard

liked it

7/2/2008 1:35:24 PM

Quote :

"overwhelming disappointment"

7/9/2008 4:22:19 PM

^^^^Booyakasha


[Edited on July 9, 2008 at 10:09 PM. Reason : jh,f]

7/9/2008 10:09:12 PM

Nobody had any sort of expectation that this album would be good, did they?

I mean, GNR is one of my favorite bands...maybe my absolute favorite. I will be shocked if this album isn't mediocre at best, though.

[Edited on July 10, 2008 at 3:19 AM. Reason : and even more shocked if it sounds much like GNR]

7/10/2008 3:19:20 AM

Looks like some gears might be turning

Guns N' Roses in talks for exclusive album release

Quote :

"Sat Aug 16, 2008 12:46am EDT Email | Print | Share | Reprints | Single Page [-] Text [+] By Ed Christman NEW YORK (Billboard) - The June leak of nine allegedly "mastered, finished" tracks from Guns N' Roses' long-delayed "Chinese Democracy" spurred a renewed round of speculation about whether the Axl Rose-led band will finally release the 14-years-in-the-making album. But some concrete signs are finally emerging that the album's release could be imminent. That's because, according to sources, negotiations are under way for "Chinese Democracy" to come out as an exclusive at one of the big-box retailers -- either Wal-Mart or Best Buy. Negotiations are also ongoing for conventional record company distribution, another source said. Guns N' Roses is now managed by Irving Azoff's Front Line Management, and Azoff is a well-known proponent of issuing albums exclusively through retailers. He released the Eagles' "Long Road Out of Eden" through Wal-Mart, much to the chagrin of other merchants. It's unclear who initiated the Guns N' Roses exclusive negotiations -- Front Line or Interscope, the band's label. Representatives at Front Line and Interscope with knowledge of the situation couldn't be reached for comment. A Wal-Mart representative said the chain couldn't confirm this fall's exclusive album offerings. Best Buy representatives couldn't be reached for comment. Reuters/Billboard"

http://www.reuters.com/article/entertainmentNews/idUSN1529368720080816?feedType=RSS&feedName=entertainmentNews&rpc=22&sp=true

[Edited on August 16, 2008 at 6:28 PM. Reason : b]

8/16/2008 6:28:14 PM

eesh

8/16/2008 8:02:58 PM

^^if it goes thru wal-mart they may have to change some lyrics

8/17/2008 12:26:03 PM

Nail in the coffin.

8/19/2008 10:14:47 AM

http://www.wwtdd.com/post.phtml?pk=13881

10/22/2008 4:54:15 PM

Somehow I REALLY doubt this will be anywhere near as good as their older albums...

But I do love DrPepper, so I'm happy.

10/22/2008 7:17:35 PM

Quote :

"theDuke866 Captain Duke 37171 Posts user info edit post Nobody had any sort of expectation that this album would be good, did they? I mean, GNR is one of my favorite bands...maybe my absolute favorite. I will be shocked if this album isn't mediocre at best, though. [Edited on July 10, 2008 at 3:19 AM. Reason : and even more shocked if it sounds much like GNR]"

yup... and with half of the songs being written over 10 years ago now shit will just be weird/dated/blah probably

10/22/2008 7:34:28 PM

^^^ god that song sucks.

10/22/2008 11:11:50 PM

I heard the song on the radio today, I could tell if it sounded like Axel Rose featuring Nickleback or Axel Rose featuring Linkin Park.

Probably some hybrid of the two.

If it'd come out when it was originally supposed to it probably would have been ahead of the curve.

10/22/2008 11:25:08 PM

here it is...



well apparently I can't iframe the page

[Edited on October 23, 2008 at 7:36 PM. Reason : address]

[Edited on October 23, 2008 at 7:37 PM. Reason : zd]

10/23/2008 7:35:04 PM

that new song sounds no better than any other generic rock band nowadays

10/26/2008 12:28:37 AM

yep, and it would have sounded bad no matter when it came out.

10/26/2008 12:30:07 AM

Quote :

"http://www.wwtdd.com/post.phtml?pk=13881"

That actually sounds different than the leaked version featured earlier in the thread.

10/26/2008 2:02:33 AM

yeah song was played on sirius the other day.

10/26/2008 2:11:06 AM

!!!

10/26/2008 9:28:44 PM

Wow. GnR and Megadeth should get together and rock a state fair or two.

10/27/2008 9:19:04 AM

6 days

11/16/2008 11:16:38 AM

You can listen now on Myspace.

http://www.myspace.com/gunsnroses

11/20/2008 1:27:43 AM

The end times are upon us

11/20/2008 9:32:41 AM

i'm trying to listen to it, but the player is going apeshit

so i guess i'll just shut it off

11/20/2008 10:50:05 AM

I had some trouble last night with it, where the song would stop a few minutes in. I just paused it and let it buffer for a bit and then played the songs, no problem.

A couple of the songs seem so discombobulated that I can't tell what's going on and its just really technical noise. I'll listen again though.

11/20/2008 10:52:13 AM

I am a huge GNR fan. Easily my favorite band, so I am trying to be subjective listening to it on myspace.

that said, I like what I have heard so far. certainly not the best they have ever done but not bad at all.

[Edited on November 20, 2008 at 11:44 AM. Reason : sp]

11/20/2008 11:44:30 AM

yeah, I've listened to a few songs already, and i think it sounds great. They (He - Axl Rose) was in a really tough spot here, and there's almost no way expectations could have been kept after 17 years of anticipation, but it sounds really, really solid so far.

11/20/2008 11:52:35 AM

Personally its a big meh for me. I feel that if this record wasn't put out with the GnR fanfare behind it it would be nothing. Its ok, but most likely if I heard it in passing and had never heard of them I wouldn't be saying "hey who is this? I need to hear more"

What I have heard so far is certainly not all terrible, but its not GnR, and I doubt it will be something I listen to after the first few initial listens.

11/20/2008 12:14:11 PM

Quote :

"I feel that if this record wasn't put out with the GnR fanfare behind it it would be nothing. "

yeah, but the same could be said about a lot of modern bands. The Beastie Boys, for example, would have been laughed off the stage for almost everything they've done in the past 15 years had it not been for their work in the 80s and early 90s.

Quote :

"but its not GnR"

well, yeah.... because it isn't GnR, really. It's Axl Rose and a bunch of other random people.

11/20/2008 12:23:40 PM

Its Axl and a bunch of hired Guns

(heard it on the radio last night)

11/20/2008 12:27:02 PM

^^ I know that, I was just reiterating that I hate when people ride a band name's wave through multiple turnovers of band members, especially when critical members leave. If it was slash and axl left it might be different

[Edited on November 20, 2008 at 1:12 PM. Reason : ]

11/20/2008 1:11:23 PM

how do you mean?
If Axl left, then there would be no way they could release as GnR. Slash may have been the soul of GnR, but Axl was and is, literally, the voice. Without his voice, there is no GnR. I think he was always the song writer too, so again, it's kind of critical.

11/20/2008 1:39:48 PM

I meant if they were left as in stayed. Not if they left But I can easily see how you could misread it that way

[Edited on November 20, 2008 at 1:45 PM. Reason : ]

11/20/2008 1:45:14 PM

Quote :

"well, yeah.... because it isn't GnR, really. It's Axl Rose and a bunch of other random people. "

I think dizzy reid is on it...he was an original member

11/20/2008 3:38:28 PM