very high

heels, slacks, & dress shirt or pant suit

4/20/2008 7:51:06 PM

that sean berton guy should come in and be like

very high
pads, jersey, cleats, helmet

[Edited on April 20, 2008 at 8:56 PM. Reason : ]

4/20/2008 8:56:51 PM

I think this thread is a way to brag about your salary. Salary range obviously has little correlation to dress in today's diverse job market. Instead, wouldn't it be more informative to state industry and / or job title followed by dress?

4/20/2008 9:32:09 PM

I agree 100%.

4/20/2008 9:42:08 PM

$Bill Gates

Whatever I want!

LOLOLOL!

4/20/2008 10:33:49 PM

Quote :

"Salary range obviously has little correlation to dress in today's diverse job market"

i bet there is some significant correlation.

i bet that to a point, you have to dress nicer as you make more money (on average), although i bet it starts to correlate less towards the upper end of "high" and especially into the "very high" classification.

4/20/2008 11:48:08 PM

i wear the same type of clothes to work now that i did when i had internships in college

the difference is that i can afford nicer versions of what i used to wear.

4/20/2008 11:59:00 PM

^^that doesn't apply to all industries.

4/21/2008 12:08:34 AM

^^^Yes, but so-called "progressive" firms are re-writing the rules of what is acceptable / expected. You have already had several people here quote "very high" followed by casual work wear, as well as people dressing up for low-paying jobs.

[Edited on April 21, 2008 at 12:10 AM. Reason : ]

4/21/2008 12:09:13 AM

the Coz is spot on.

There's no correlation; I'm not going to go into it.

And I know there's a good percentage of liars in this thread, and I'm not going to call anybody out.

bye.

4/21/2008 12:14:22 AM

high...anything i want pretty much. if meeting a customer we are supposed to dress business casual, but they actually encourage you to not dress any fancier than that generally.

[Edited on April 21, 2008 at 12:21 AM. Reason : not surprisingly in IT]

4/21/2008 12:19:26 AM

at my work when we had investors coming in, we asked if we should 'dress up' and they told us no because if we did they wouldn't believe we were developers

4/21/2008 12:27:02 AM

Quote :

"that doesn't apply to all industries. "

i know, but it doesn't have to for what i said to hold true

4/21/2008 1:13:06 AM

very high.

anything i want (minus shorts).

i always wear polo shirts with slacks or sweaters and button down shirts in the winter though, but plenty of people i work with just wear jeans and a t-shirt.

4/21/2008 8:25:17 AM

Utility Construction Company Project Manager

High to Very High Pay range depending on bonus.

My uniforms consist of uncomfortable khaki pants with either a long sleeve button down or a short sleeve polo shirt.

If I choose not to wear my uniforms, I will wear jeans and a polo or a button down.

I never wear a tie to work.

I also wear safety glasses, a hard hat, a safety vest, and Red Wing work boots...every day.

Shorts are a big no no, due to the line of work. I am only in the office 10 to 15 hours per week and I make site visits everyday, so I have to wear hard bottom shoes. I don't like wearing tee shirts to work. I feel like I should wear a collar everyday.

4/21/2008 10:26:02 AM

i didnt like wearing casual clothes to work every day, but that is our culture. you actually feel strange after a few weeks of trying to look super nice.

when your manager comes in wearing a hoody and jeans, it isnt like you are going to get "noticed" for being slightly sharper than anyone. it just doesn't hold up in a place that is actually placing value on innovation and hard work rather than personal marketing.

[Edited on April 21, 2008 at 1:22 PM. Reason : .]

4/21/2008 1:22:28 PM

jesus christ you people make so much money

low

whatever the hell I want as long as it's not offensive.

4/21/2008 2:12:28 PM

^i think you just answered your own question to this thread.

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4/21/2008 2:43:38 PM

You're a giant chode.

4/21/2008 2:45:15 PM

depends. If I don't have any appointments and I am just cold calling in the office, khakis and a polo shirt.

if i have an appointment, depending on the size of the account, shirt and tie.

4/21/2008 3:50:54 PM

i typically wear nice jeans or khakis and a buttoned shirt (that ends up untucked by the end of the day).

working at a plant, where ties are choking hazards, has its advantages

4/21/2008 9:16:33 PM

I agree that industry matters a hell of a lot more than salary.

Computers - jeans and t shirt.

Other people with the same job wear dress pants and shirts every day, so you see a wide spectrum for the same job.

[Edited on April 21, 2008 at 9:53 PM. Reason : but i do wear nicer clothes for meetings with outsiders or higher ups]

4/21/2008 9:52:52 PM

just changed jobs - wore suits with ties to wearing slacks/khakis with polo/button up

[Edited on April 21, 2008 at 10:09 PM. Reason : 43dfc]

4/21/2008 10:07:48 PM

Very Low:


Blue jumpsuit with name tag.

4/21/2008 10:50:47 PM

Low:
Jeans & T-shirt, perhaps light jacket since I work in an icebox, err, computer room

4/21/2008 11:24:30 PM

Medium

jeans on monday & friday and slacks and a button up or khaki's and a polo on all the rest.

4/21/2008 11:35:06 PM

i get to wear whatever i want

as long as it's a suit

4/22/2008 12:21:17 AM

shirt and tie

4/22/2008 12:49:00 AM

Very high.

Sandals and shorts in summers. Jeans in winter. I always wear Mountain Hardwear or Prana shirts. Science rules cuz' the dress code is so relaxed.

4/22/2008 12:50:45 AM

Yeah the scale is all fucked up. Very High is high for Middle class standards but low for upper class. I bet there is a correlation between jobs that make $140,000 and higher. Probably due to the extra income those people have for designer clothes

Everyone knows the high earning jobs for middle class people are engineering and computer science which has been known for lax dress codes.

4/22/2008 10:43:32 AM

agreed. i dont consider a salary above 70k to be "very high"

4/22/2008 12:14:32 PM

my office has a business casual dress code - but it depends on what floor you work on. My floor is more business professional, other floors more casual.

4/22/2008 1:06:44 PM

dress pants, button-down shirt, dress shoes. on fridays we can wear jeans and t-shirts.

4/22/2008 1:26:07 PM

medium - shirt and tie m-th, polo on friday

4/22/2008 1:32:32 PM

I'm about at the highest point of Low right now. I should be comfortable in middle-Medium range by the end of the year or around this time next year.

My dress code is just to not look sloppy. Being a construction PM most of my days consist of slacks and a button down or polo just depending on how i feel. The couple days a week when i'm on site its carhartts/jeans and boots and a hard hat. Fridays during the summer we close at lunch so i usually wear something i can easily wear on the golf course or change out of for the lake



[Edited on April 22, 2008 at 4:05 PM. Reason : or]

4/22/2008 4:03:02 PM

Quote :

"agreed. i dont consider a salary above 70k to be "very high""

Eh, in Raleigh that could be considered very high comparatively. Certainly where you are and where I am that is middle medium at best... If you make less than 70k you can forget about owning a house in any reasonably nice neighborhood with single income.

That said, if I move back to Raleigh I would absolutely take that salary and run with it... even with a masters.

[Edited on April 22, 2008 at 4:41 PM. Reason : x]

4/22/2008 4:40:39 PM

for recently graduated i would still consider 70k very high

4/22/2008 5:56:19 PM

70K is very high.

4/22/2008 6:31:21 PM

thats because it is very high for most people coming out of college or even 2-3 years removed which encompasses a good deal of the people on this board. if many weren't in engineering, those even 5 years removed could easily still fall in this category.

i consider myself lucky to be where i am at 25.

4/22/2008 7:03:19 PM

Low & either a polo/khaki's to go with the uniform color theme that the people who wear scrubs have, or a button shirt, and on the rare occasion of a particularly important meeting I'll wear a tie.

4/22/2008 7:10:59 PM

Quote :

"Yeah the scale is all fucked up. Very High is high for Middle class standards but low for upper class."

70k isn't even remotely approaching upper class.

Quote :

"70K is very high. "

ha, 70k isn't shit, really. I mean, it's a decent income, but I think some of you have a pretty rose-tinted view of how much money that is. I make mid-60s (and a lot of my pay--like 15-16k per year--is tax free, and I don't have to pay for healthcare for me or my daughter, so my pay is really the equivalent of about a $70k salary), and it isn't hard at all to account for all of it. By the time you take out over $12,000/year in child support, about $14k/year or a little more in saving/investments, car payment on a $26k car loan, probably $1500/year in auto/renter's insurance, $650/year for cell phone, almost $8000/year for rent and phone/cable/utilities (and that's living with 2 roommates), probably 3500-4000 year in gasoline, another $1000/year in tires and motor oil, $4000/year for food...

that leaves only about $100/month for other expenses. $70k does not buy you an extravagant lifestyle at all. A wife and/or child can make you have to stretch those dollars, even on a $70k salary. If you're single, with no dependants, and live with a roommate or two, in an area that isn't too expensive, then you are quite comfortable, but by no means rolling in the dough.

4/23/2008 1:37:18 AM

i wear, depending on my mood:
a) a blanket, and that's it
b) pajamas or a muu-muu
c) ratty jeans and a tank top

my income is medium.

4/23/2008 8:28:21 AM

Quote :

" 70k isn't even remotely approaching upper class. "

That's kind of what I was getting at, and yeah not hard to account for the money especially if there is a family or kids in a mix.

[Edited on April 23, 2008 at 8:35 AM. Reason : a]

4/23/2008 8:34:49 AM

^^^i think your expenses are a little skewed though. its not normal to save/invest 20% of your income (10% is pretty common). im not saying its a bad thing, but its certainly not the norm.

also, most people don't spend 1k on tires/oil in a year, and a 26k car is also not a necessity to most people (which changing would also cut down on gas and insurance).

im not trying to be argumentative or condensending or anything, but it's much more easy to live on $70k when you cut down on other expenses. if you were truely in a crunch for money, things could be done to leave you with more then $100 in spending money each month...even with a child.



[Edited on April 23, 2008 at 8:49 AM. Reason : d]

4/23/2008 8:48:13 AM

^$1000/year is pretty spot on for car maintenance. That is if you actually take care of your car...if not you're looking at way more than that in repairs.

4/23/2008 9:29:03 AM

hmmm...you're right. i guess i was only considering oil and tires, not any other repairs. my bad.

[Edited on April 23, 2008 at 9:34 AM. Reason : d]

4/23/2008 9:32:35 AM

Quote :

"agreed. i dont consider a salary above 70k to be "very high""

Did you read the first post?

Quote :

"Since most people in this section are recently graduated (or still in school) we'll use the following ranges:"

Its all about context. For 50-60 y/o professionals, 70K is not "very high." For people in college, or just out of college, it is very high. Sure maybe like 1% of college graduates might make that coming out of school because their skills are in high demand, but its still a pretty damn high salary for recent graduates.

Quote :

"I think this thread is a way to brag about your salary. Salary range obviously has little correlation to dress in today's diverse job market. Instead, wouldn't it be more informative to state industry and / or job title followed by dress?"

There is a correlation, whether you want to admit it or not. Sure there are exceptions/outliers, especially in the tech industries (which is where many of us work), but there is a definite correlation between salary and dress...maybe not always seen in a "dress code" per say, but its there in other ways like what people decide to wear, or what their job entails. And if you think I made this thread to brag about my salary don't you think I would have posted my range to "brag?"

But yeah I should have put industry/job title in the original post as well since that would give a more complete picture.

4/23/2008 10:29:06 AM

^^^ yeah, i do save and invest a good bit, and no, a $26k car definitely isn't a necessity, but it's nothing extravagant, either. sure, i could drive a Pinto and eat ramen noodles, but my point is that I still only afford a pretty moderate lifestyle.

4/23/2008 10:29:08 AM

high base / very high with bonuses

today i'm in a suit because we had a big meeting, but most days i'm in jeans and an untucked shirt. i don't really wear shorts, but that would be fine too. most of us keep bike clothes around too as we go for bike rides around lunch time every now and then.

4/23/2008 2:47:26 PM

Quote :

"There is a correlation, whether you want to admit it or not ... but there is a definite correlation between salary and dress...."

Really? Why the hell did you even start the thread if you are going to ignore everything that people actually post here. Let's go to the actual numbers:



I put jeans/polo kakhi/polo in the same category. A button up shirt (and no jeans) went up a level. Tshirt went down a level.

Looking at the actual data that people supplied, I wonder what correlation you imagine exists between salary and dress. If you want to wear jeans, tshirts, and shorts, get a really high paying job or a really low paying job, but I suspect that's not what you want to conclude.

Quote :

"Sure there are exceptions/outliers, especially in the tech industries (which is where many of us work)"

It's not considered an "outlier" or "exception" if it's the norm in a large industry.


[Edited on April 23, 2008 at 9:40 PM. Reason : .]

4/23/2008 9:33:49 PM