ImYoPusha All American 6249 Posts user info edit post |
damn you got asked to quit posting.
thats some serious shit
fuckin serious shit 4/27/2008 8:06:57 PM |
TenaciousC All American 6307 Posts user info edit post |
^ Yeah, except it was NC86 that asked, so it doesn't really count
Think about how many people have asked him to stop posting. 4/27/2008 8:09:24 PM |
Amsterdam718 All American 15134 Posts user info edit post |
there's already a movement. it's http://chlorococaina.blogspot.com
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killpups All American 945 Posts user info edit post |
Did you guys hear about what the truckers did in DC?
I want to find out more about this.
But seriously. The truckers could be the 300lb gorilla that we need to make the first move.
If the truckers say something like, "We won't drive if prices don't go down..."
I mean thats got to speak volumes. If they stop driving this whole country shuts down....like over night.
VIVA LA TRUCKERS!!!!!!!!! 4/29/2008 2:19:32 PM |
killpups All American 945 Posts user info edit post |
here's one article that I found
I heard the convoy was like three miles long.
http://www.ajc.com/business/content/business/stories/2008/04/28/TruckersProtest_0428.html 4/29/2008 2:22:22 PM |
CharlesHF All American 5543 Posts user info edit post |
I wonder how much gas they wasted during that protest. 4/29/2008 2:23:21 PM |
David0603 All American 12764 Posts user info edit post |
Why don't they just raise prices? Silly truckers. 4/29/2008 2:24:48 PM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
SUSPEND. LOCK. TERMINATE.
Who let this fucktard post? Who let this shit last this long?
Quit with your stupid ideas. 4/29/2008 2:24:51 PM |
Str8BacardiL ************ 41753 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "DO THINGS THAT LESSEN YOUR OVERALL CONSUMPTION OF GAS, BECAUSE THIS "LET'S BOYCOTT EXXON ON THURSDAY" SHIT JUST RESULTS IN THEM MAKING THEIR MONEY WEDNESDAY AND FRIDAY." |
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killpups All American 945 Posts user info edit post |
Why are people so hostile about talking about gas prices?
I don't get it.
We're all on the same team. 4/29/2008 2:37:21 PM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
we're on the same team, but you're committing the turnovers 4/29/2008 2:38:16 PM |
GGMon All American 6462 Posts user info edit post |
Listen kid - Go fuck an energy saving lightbulb and let the adults run the Country. 4/29/2008 2:44:43 PM |
killpups All American 945 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Go fuck an energy saving lightbulb and let the adults run the Country." |
1) I'm older than you.
2) Was that supposed to be funny? Ok it was a little funny. But if you were trying to sound mature....not the right line.
3) The current adults need to make gas cheaper.
All I hear is whinning and bitching and verbal slashes.
I would really like to hear some ideas. SOMETHING OTHER THAN, "HEY YOU SHOULD GO EAT TWIGS AND BUY A $10K ELECTRIC BIKE
Stop doing the robot dance. Turn your TV off and think for yourself.4/29/2008 2:53:11 PM |
Wraith All American 27256 Posts user info edit post |
Either a troll or a hijacked account/alias. 4/29/2008 2:55:23 PM |
David0603 All American 12764 Posts user info edit post |
Gas isn't that expensive kid. 4/29/2008 2:56:22 PM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
actually, that was funny.
and if you want something to do, regarding gas prices:
- do what you liberals always do, hold a protest; stomp and scream and whine in public like normal - find alternate means of travel - carpool - get a more efficient vehcile - become and engineer and design a new vehicle that is comparable to today's, but runs on a renewable resource/improve an existing vehicle - grow ethanol producing crops and sell it as fuel - raise cattle and use their waste as a source for methane for fuel
need anymore ideas? 4/29/2008 2:57:14 PM |
killpups All American 945 Posts user info edit post |
wow
maybe i'll just move to japan
cause i'm obviously speaking japanese 4/29/2008 2:57:36 PM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
no, your idea was just stupid, overheard, overspammed, etc 4/29/2008 2:58:20 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
I clicked hoping that this thread would be about poop.
It turns out that it is poop. 4/29/2008 3:43:51 PM |
killpups All American 945 Posts user info edit post |
Hey lets argue about it and call eachother dumb.
Meanwhile prices keep going up.
Yay americans.
This just proves that the truckers are smarter than the average american.
Thats how far we've fallen.
Great job.
The only good idea i've heard is to avoid the biggest name companies like Exon and Amoco.
Whoever said that is my hero.
The rest of you. I'm not impressed. 5/1/2008 12:29:44 AM |
mawle427 All American 22137 Posts user info edit post |
You know what the truckers did? They pissed off all of the companies, BUT the gas companies. That's because the gas companies don't use independent truckers to drive their fuel around, they use their own tankers and drivers, so all the other people driving and buying gas kept their profits coming right in.
However, all of those other types of companies whose profits were hurt by the fact that they didn't get their product in, they were who the truckers shat all over. We are bitching at you because your idea is overplayed and stupid, and then you refute all of the perfectly legitimate ideas people throw out there, even if they (I) did it in a hostile manner.
You say that you can't buy a hybrid because it doesn't save you money, but the idea here isn't so save YOU money, it is to use less gas and thus help the cause of getting gas prices to go down. For trying to be so noble here, you are awfully selfish, only thinking about yourself and whether it will make you more financially stable.
You say public transportation isn't an option because the buses use gas. Well actually they use Diesel, which is more expensive than gas, but they get much better mileage off of it. Also, for every gallon that bus uses, the thirty people on it are NOT using any gas. Hence the concept of public transportation.
And what we are all saying is that it is VERY easy to not get gas on Tuesdays. Hell i haven't bought gas on a Sunday, Thursday, or Saturday since last summer (i am looking at receipts) so I am three times ahead of you, and i still think your idea is dumb because i still buy gas at $50/tank every 300 miles. My lack of purchases three days a week aren't helping out anything, it's just how it works. The better option is not to not buy or consume gas on certain days, it is to use less gas ALL THE TIME.
So when people yell at you and call you names, it's not that they don't like you as a person. It's that they don't like the people with idiotic ideas being the outspoken ones. That's what leads to cults and the Pauly Shore movies. 5/1/2008 2:50:24 AM |
strudle66 All American 1573 Posts user info edit post |
shit son, you just got served 5/1/2008 3:15:23 AM |
paerabol All American 17118 Posts user info edit post |
You know what killpups did? Got most of you thinking about ways to save gas. Whether it was someone casually perusing the thread with his own quiet ideas, or one of you dorks brainstorming to see how many ways to "own" this guy, he got you thinking.
Sure the idea of avoiding gas purchase on any given day is ill-conceived. As are most of the quick-fix "stick it to the man" ideas. But at least he's conscious of it and is open to ANY idea that'll help the cause.
And as far as I'm concerned, anyone forward-thinking enough to stick his neck out to try to get people together and thinking about solutions to a huge problem is okay in my book. How about we grow up and help out instead of berating those trying to find a solution. 5/1/2008 3:56:34 AM |
David0603 All American 12764 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The only good idea i've heard is to avoid the biggest name companies like Exon and Amoco." |
Claim: Participating in a boycott of selected oil companies will lower gasoline prices.
Status: False.
Origins: This year's litany of complaints about gasoline prices is a re-run of the same program from years past: Gasoline prices in the USA are too high; gasoline is a unique commodity whose price isn't subject to the usual market forces of supply and demand; OPEC and greedy American oil companies secretly manipulate the market to keep prices artificially high; and a simple boycott of a couple of brands of gasoline will rectify all this.
Oil companies can manipulate their prices somewhat by controlling how much gasoline they produce and where they sell it, but they can't alter the basics of supply and demand: prices go down when people buy less of a good, prices go up when people buy more of a good, and prices go way up when demand outstrips available supply. The "gas out" schemes that propose to alter the demand side of the equation by shunning one or two specific brands of gasoline for a while won't work, however, because they're based on the misconception that an oil company's only outlet for gasoline is its own branded service stations. That isn't the case: gasoline is a fungible commodity, so if one oil company's product isn't being bought up in one particular market or outlet, it will simply sell its output to (or through) other outlets: Economics Prof. Pat Welch of St. Louis University says any boycott of "bad guy" gasoline in favor of "good guy" brands would have some unintended (and unhappy) results.
. . . Welch says the law of supply and demand is set in stone. "To meet the sudden demand," he says, "the good guys would have to buy gasoline wholesale from the bad guys, who are suddenly stuck with unwanted gasoline."
So motorists would end up . . . paying more for it, because they'd be buying it at fewer stations.
And yes, oil companies do buy and sell from one another. Mike Right of AAA Missouri says, "If a company has a station that can be served more economically by a competitor's refinery, they'll do it."
Right adds, "In some cases, gasoline retailers have no refinery at all. Some convenience-store chains sell a lot of gasoline — and buy it all from somebody else's refinery." A boycott of a couple of brands of gasoline won't result in lower overall prices. Prices at all the non-boycotted outlets would rise due to the temporarily limited supply and increased demand, making the original prices look cheap by comparison. The shunned outlets could then make a killing by offering gasoline at its "normal" (i.e., pre-boycott) price or by selling off their output to the non-boycotted companies, who will need the extra supply to meet demand. The only person who really gets hurt in this proposed scheme is the service station operator, who has almost no control over the price of gasoline.
The only practical way of reducing gasoline prices is through the straightforward means of buying less gasoline, not through a simple and painless scheme of just shifting where we buy it. The inconvenience of driving less is a hardship too many people apparently aren't willing to endure, however.5/1/2008 9:57:28 AM |
killpups All American 945 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "You know what the truckers did? They pissed off all of the companies, BUT the gas companies. That's because the gas companies don't use independent truckers to drive their fuel around, they use their own tankers and drivers, so all the other people driving and buying gas kept their profits coming right in. " |
Ok mawle427. I think you might be missing the big point here. I'm not concerned about who the gas companies use to ship their gas. I'm talking about truckers because they are some of the biggest consumers of gas....and oh by the way if they put their foot down....the whole country completely stops over night. Thus they theoretically have more leverage.
However, you seem to be very sharp. I urge you to step back and take another look at the big picture. Try to step outside of the "hey im smart and am going to try to correct everything you say"-BOX....and help with actual ideas that we can all use to move forward. We (americans who buy a shit load of gas) need your help. thanks
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paerabol: thank you. You get it.
See this is where I'm going. I'm not claiming to have the best ideas. I'm not claiming to know everything about the economy and how gas taxes work and what exact move will effect gas prices the quickest.
I think the most important thing is that we all (people in america that buy gas) get together and practice making moves together. The first few moves may not result in the exact outcome that we're looking for. But if we simply practice working together, We will become more and more effective. Eventually we will take more control of the oil market. Because right now, We're on a giant plane with two blown engines spiraling at terminal velocity towards the ground, with the towel heads laughing all the way to the bank.
It sure would be nice to atleast aim for a softer landing.
(ok i should have left the towel head comment out, but i couldn't resist illuding to the tie between crashing planes and the people we buy gas from...I digress)
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See this is why I posted this here. I know there's smart folks like David 0603 and Mawle427 running around out there.
I think you guys are going to help us come up with great ideas.
Remember that for something to work. It requires a very simple execution. Americans are lazy.
Anyway. Have at it.5/4/2008 6:56:10 PM |
pttyndal WINGS!!!!! 35217 Posts user info edit post |
meh. i say we just kill all the speculators. 5/4/2008 7:07:09 PM |
killpups All American 945 Posts user info edit post |
if you're too lazy to actually read whats been written and actually sit and formulate an intelligent thought.
please don't waste everyone's time.
thanks =) 5/4/2008 7:09:21 PM |
pttyndal WINGS!!!!! 35217 Posts user info edit post |
orly? 5/4/2008 7:13:45 PM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "You know what killpups did? Got most of you thinking about ways to save gas." |
No, I'm pretty sure what got people thinking about ways to save gas was the fact that gas is raising in price, not that some idiot on the internet wants people to not buy any gas one day of the week.5/4/2008 7:23:09 PM |
Sayer now with sarcasm 9841 Posts user info edit post |
this killpups guy is either the best troll ever, or the dumbest kid at school
5/4/2008 7:25:18 PM |
killpups All American 945 Posts user info edit post |
its sad that we cant get past our own issues to fight the good fight
drink some water
go breath some fresh air
get laid
take some caffine
do something to help you feel better about yourself and stop bringing down everyone else
get over yourself and save the world
[Edited on May 4, 2008 at 7:44 PM. Reason : clarity] 5/4/2008 7:43:07 PM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
I already only get gas once every two weeks.
what more can I do? 5/4/2008 7:46:24 PM |
David0603 All American 12764 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "We (americans who buy a shit load of gas) need your help. thanks" |
Why should I help? You don't hear the supermarket's throwing a hissy fit about food prices. Those truckers need to suck it up and quit their bitching.5/4/2008 8:12:13 PM |
OmarBadu zidik 25070 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "keep fighting the good fight!" |
5/4/2008 8:19:52 PM |
bcsawyer All American 4562 Posts user info edit post |
a more feasible plan would be for people to track their mileage for a given period- say 30 days- and set a goal to cut back driving by a given amount and continue with the reduced driving. it may or may not affect gas prices, but reducing actual demand is a more reasonable place to start. if the oil companies sell the same amount of fuel in a quarter, year, etc... they don't care what day of the week you buy it on. 5/4/2008 8:41:04 PM |
Snewf All American 63367 Posts user info edit post |
ride a bike ride a bike ride a goddamn bike 5/5/2008 12:10:40 AM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "- grow ethanol producing crops and sell it as fuel" |
Normally I agree, but with rising food prices, food shortages, and the already inefficient conversion of these crops to fuel (not to mention the general waste of an item with much higher potential than gas) this isn't a very attractive option.5/5/2008 12:25:17 AM |
arcgreek All American 26690 Posts user info edit post |
5/5/2008 12:25:50 AM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53045 Posts user info edit post |
HEY EVERYBODY!!! BUY GAS ON MONDAY NITE SO THAT YOU DON'T BUY IT ON TUESDAY!!! THAT'LL TOTALLY SHOW THOSE EVIL OIL COMPANIES!!! 5/5/2008 12:29:31 AM |
arcgreek All American 26690 Posts user info edit post |
5/5/2008 1:29:05 AM |
GREEN JAY All American 14180 Posts user info edit post |
you dodos, the price of gasoline needs to go up to 5 or 6 dollars a gallon compared to todays dollar to make you fucks stop wasting it and reduce consumption. the planet gets more fucked up by the second and more people are born and come of driving age and want their 30 gallons of gas a week and all their frozen food grown with fertilizers, packaged in china or california or god knows where and coveniently packaged in plastic trays.
viva la gas tax and unsubsidized fuel costs/ less refinery production!! 5/5/2008 2:57:11 AM |
umbrellaman All American 10892 Posts user info edit post |
I know this has already been pointed out, but it's worth repeating: if you don't buy gas on Tuesday, you're only going to wind up buying it on some other day of the week. Even if you could get 10% of the total US population to do what you have suggested, it wouldn't hurt the oil companies' pockets in any way. I doubt your little movement would even register on anyone's radar. The oil companies are not worried, because they know how badly you and all your SUV-driving friends need their product.
If you want to start making an impact, use less gas. It's that simple and it's the only effective way. Drive only when you have to. Walk or ride a bike to places. Ride the city buses. Write to your Congressmen and push for development of mass-transit infrastructures. 5/5/2008 6:07:21 AM |
ndmetcal All American 9012 Posts user info edit post |
Since milk is more expensive than gas, should we stop buying milk on tuesdays as well? that'll show those evil fucking dairy farmers 5/5/2008 6:32:46 AM |
killpups All American 945 Posts user info edit post |
wow
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see, this poster is atleast discussing the basics....which is where we need to start
Quote : | "a more feasible plan would be for people to track their mileage for a given period- say 30 days- and set a goal to cut back driving by a given amount and continue with the reduced driving. it may or may not affect gas prices, but reducing actual demand is a more reasonable place to start. if the oil companies sell the same amount of fuel in a quarter, year, etc... they don't care what day of the week you buy it on." |
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and for the 20th time....I understand that not buying gas on a certain day will not necessarily have an overall impact. The point ...maybe I should type this in super mega bolds....THE F'N POINT HERE IS FOR EVERYONE TO WORK TOGETHER AND FOR US ALL TO TAKE ACTION AS ONE GIANT ENTITY.....ONE FUCKING TEAM.....
Just the first idea off the top of my head is for large amounts of people to stop buying on a certain day. The only thing that will show is that we can organize and focus our efforts. WHICH IS WHAT WE NEED TO ESTABLISH BEFORE WE ACTUALLY MAKE ANY MOVES TO TAKE BACK THE MARKET.
capice?
but by all - for the love of god - fucking - means........someone come up with better ideas
why is that so hard for more than 5% of us to understand?
for those of you that have helped....thanks....
for those of you that keep saying....."not buying on a certain day will not have any impact".....yes we all understand that....... now get with it and help out
I guess my next step is to make a log of what Im actually doing with buying gas and my miles driven.
I know that sounds simple. but again if we all did it......it would be better than what is happening now which is getting fucked at the pump.
and another side note.....to those of you that have just already thrown up your hands and thrown in the towel on all americans......I FEEL YOU ...but its just not gonna help. We gotta grind this out. We have to fix this.
I just don't think some people understand how important this oil shit is. Oil is unfortunately tied to almost everything in your life. Oil is the single most efficient energy source ever known to man kind. Even at $120 a barrel its way cheaper than anything else. If we don't take the market back....the world will basically go to hell in a couple years.
We must act together now.
[Edited on May 5, 2008 at 1:24 PM. Reason : .]5/5/2008 1:21:00 PM |
Snewf All American 63367 Posts user info edit post |
what?
shut the fuck up and ride your bike
piece of shit 5/5/2008 1:23:43 PM |
killpups All American 945 Posts user info edit post |
ride my bike where?
to work?
to the grocery store.....yeah that'll work
what if i get a sore calf muscle? do I just stop being mobile?
Bikes are great. I own a bianci. Love it.
But it would be great if you put more thought into this sir. thanks 5/5/2008 1:27:01 PM |
lmnop All American 4809 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "We must act together now.
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lolz5/5/2008 1:27:47 PM |
Slacko All American 542 Posts user info edit post |
Id-ee-ot.
If you want to save gas, get a motorcycle and saddlebags with tail bag and tank bag. There, you are done. 5/5/2008 1:32:04 PM |
colter All American 8022 Posts user info edit post |
oh tww
where everybody is so much god damned smarter and better looking than anyone else
not to mention, perfect also 5/5/2008 1:32:44 PM |
Rat Suspended 5724 Posts user info edit post |
i recently purchased a hybrid that gets about 58mpg on the average trip
it's my own way of giving a big -fuck you- to the oil companies
i'm paying the same amount of money per year on gas as my dad did per year in the early 90's
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