lmnop All American 4809 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Except that if anyone saw this happening, guaranteed they would then help the homeless man call the police to report the dognapping." |
that doesn't negate the fact that it is a selfless act.
[Edited on April 28, 2008 at 10:30 PM. Reason : ;l]4/28/2008 10:29:54 PM |
mytwocents All American 20654 Posts user info edit post |
Well regardless, it's not selfless. 4/28/2008 10:32:15 PM |
lmnop All American 4809 Posts user info edit post |
how so? 4/28/2008 10:33:00 PM |
mytwocents All American 20654 Posts user info edit post |
well for one, now you'd have a dog. People pay $$ for those. 4/28/2008 10:34:06 PM |
lmnop All American 4809 Posts user info edit post |
Oh, wow. I now have a dog, that I could have gotten from a shelter for free, instead I risked being caught stealing it. I totally gain from getting the dog. 4/28/2008 10:36:22 PM |
adumb Starting Lineup 52 Posts user info edit post |
There's quite a difference between feeling good about helping someone, versus, say, masturbating your ego by congratulating yourself for it in front of the entire internet.
[Edited on April 28, 2008 at 10:40 PM. Reason : =] 4/28/2008 10:38:53 PM |
mytwocents All American 20654 Posts user info edit post |
^well in all reality, the point of me making this thread was probably more about me showing how I cared more about the dog than the dude....and I did.
^^As for the selfless act, you'd be doing it so that you felt better about yourself for helping someone and that, in and of itself, is not selfless
[Edited on April 28, 2008 at 10:48 PM. Reason : ] 4/28/2008 10:47:57 PM |
lmnop All American 4809 Posts user info edit post |
There I was: arguing about selfless acts with someone who made a thread about her good deed. 4/28/2008 10:52:08 PM |
drvanpel New Recruit 42 Posts user info edit post |
I'm all for giving the homeless folk food on occassion.
But if this guy clearly isn't too bad off. He hasn't eaten the dog yet. 4/28/2008 10:54:08 PM |
puppy All American 8888 Posts user info edit post |
I would rather help a dog than a human. 4/28/2008 11:08:39 PM |
JayMCnasty All American 14180 Posts user info edit post |
nice work
i try and do a good deed daily but thats a badass deed 4/28/2008 11:09:34 PM |
lmnop All American 4809 Posts user info edit post |
^^I just think that's ass backwards.
[Edited on April 28, 2008 at 11:10 PM. Reason : jhg] 4/28/2008 11:10:04 PM |
puppy All American 8888 Posts user info edit post |
why?
You are entitled to your opinion, but dogs are so much better anyways. 4/28/2008 11:21:25 PM |
DiamondAce Suspended 12937 Posts user info edit post |
I would NEVER hurt a dog
a puppy on the other hand...... 4/28/2008 11:24:25 PM |
rufus All American 3583 Posts user info edit post |
^^ which would bother you more, if i killed your dog or if i killed your mom? 4/28/2008 11:25:26 PM |
puppy All American 8888 Posts user info edit post |
the fact that you think about killing anyone is scary. While my mom did raise me and my dog (really?) did not much for me, I'd say my mom. I know it sounds selfish. but my dog probably will not live much longer due to circumstances. 4/28/2008 11:29:28 PM |
DiamondAce Suspended 12937 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "did not much for me" |
Well said.4/28/2008 11:30:20 PM |
puppy All American 8888 Posts user info edit post |
I didn't mean anything against her. She's a good dog. 4/28/2008 11:31:38 PM |
rufus All American 3583 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ i was just going with the assumption that you think dogs have more worth than humans with your "id rather help a dog" sentiments.
[Edited on April 28, 2008 at 11:32 PM. Reason : .] 4/28/2008 11:32:02 PM |
puppy All American 8888 Posts user info edit post |
I'd rather help a stray than a homeless human. I'd rather help a human I know and like over a random dog. I'd rather help a dog I know and like over a random human. When it comes to a dog I know versus a human I know, I would choose the one I like more.
So I do not value the life of a dog more, I see them as equal. 4/28/2008 11:34:22 PM |
mantisstunna All American 1738 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "this may not be the most popular opinion but WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU FEED A DOG BEFORE YOU FED A HUMAN?!?!?" |
Becuase its not the dogs fault he's not getting fed. Honestly i feel worse for starving animals then i do homeless people.
[Edited on April 28, 2008 at 11:38 PM. Reason : i wanted to]4/28/2008 11:37:32 PM |
lmnop All American 4809 Posts user info edit post |
The person experiences pain differently than a dog. The person in this situation is sitting there going, "that asshole just bought a bag of dog food for this goddamn mutt and I am starving!"
The dog can just go eat a fucking squirrel. 4/28/2008 11:44:24 PM |
mantisstunna All American 1738 Posts user info edit post |
So can the human 4/28/2008 11:45:01 PM |
lmnop All American 4809 Posts user info edit post |
right. go outside and try to catch a squirrel, hero. 4/28/2008 11:45:47 PM |
puppy All American 8888 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The person experiences pain differently than a dog." |
wow.4/28/2008 11:45:48 PM |
lmnop All American 4809 Posts user info edit post |
You think a dog is thinking about how down and out he is? 4/28/2008 11:46:23 PM |
mantisstunna All American 1738 Posts user info edit post |
you think the dog decided not to get a job and be a lazy bum? 4/28/2008 11:48:03 PM |
lmnop All American 4809 Posts user info edit post |
What's to say the human did? Dogs don't have jobs. They are not humans. they don't need houses or sweaters either. They are dogs.
[Edited on April 28, 2008 at 11:49 PM. Reason : wtf] 4/28/2008 11:48:39 PM |
mantisstunna All American 1738 Posts user info edit post |
Yes but dogs aren't supposed to have jobs humans are. 4/28/2008 11:51:22 PM |
puppy All American 8888 Posts user info edit post |
Can someone else do a good deed and share it?
4/28/2008 11:53:10 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
i opened the door for an elderly woman today 4/28/2008 11:54:37 PM |
mantisstunna All American 1738 Posts user info edit post |
I donated money to some children's help fun at wendys. 4/28/2008 11:55:24 PM |
puppy All American 8888 Posts user info edit post |
okay someone make a rude comment about old people.
4/28/2008 11:55:29 PM |
puppy All American 8888 Posts user info edit post |
and children. children are great too. 4/28/2008 11:56:28 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
http://thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=523765
found this persons cat the other day 4/28/2008 11:56:38 PM |
lmnop All American 4809 Posts user info edit post |
You "dogs are equal to humans" people are hopeless. You are out of touch with reality. You are really missing something in your life when you think of dogs as equals. You support pet food industries that manufacture food for pets kept as luxuries while millions of people starve. You claim to love animals but you take them out of their natural environment and force them to be "your buddy."
WTF? 4/28/2008 11:59:58 PM |
puppy All American 8888 Posts user info edit post |
dogs have been domesticated for thousands of years now, if you didn't know it already.
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lmnop All American 4809 Posts user info edit post |
women have been sexually abused for thousands of years. What's your point? 4/29/2008 12:05:43 AM |
puppy All American 8888 Posts user info edit post |
drunknloaded, good job on returning the kitten to its home. 4/29/2008 12:09:15 AM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
thanks 4/29/2008 12:13:16 AM |
puppy All American 8888 Posts user info edit post |
4/29/2008 12:13:41 AM |
ncsuallday Sink the Flagship 9818 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "You "dogs are equal to humans" people are hopeless. You are out of touch with reality. You are really missing something in your life when you think of dogs as equals. You support pet food industries that manufacture food for pets kept as luxuries while millions of people starve. You claim to love animals but you take them out of their natural environment and force them to be "your buddy." " |
this is the dumbest thing i've ever heard.
1st of all Dogs are and have been for thousands of years, domesticated, which means they can't fend for themselves 2nd i dont "support" pet food companies, i support my dog in getting a balanced diet while considering the time it would take to prepare food that would cost me more, and that the dog would probably enjoy less than that shit in the alpo can 3rd millions of people are starving but thats not my fault and by buying my dog food, it doesn't hurt those people anymore. if you give such a shit JOIN THE PEACE CORPS and if you're already in it, i dont want to hear about it 4th The dogs "natural environment" doesn't technically exist. name the last time you saw a ferrel golden retriever or pomeranian running around? I'm sure my dog prefers living with me (who feeds him, loves him, gives him plenty of attention, and hooks him up to get laid [really i do] by other dogs of the same breed) then living in the woods, scrounging for food while fighting parasites
you sir (or probably ma'am) are an idiot.
[Edited on April 29, 2008 at 12:26 AM. Reason : nevermind, just another liberal douche]
[Edited on April 29, 2008 at 12:28 AM. Reason : nicca fuck yo couch!]4/29/2008 12:22:53 AM |
lmnop All American 4809 Posts user info edit post |
So you don't support a company by giving it money?
And the dog's natural environment doesn't exist because people like you have bred them to be useless lapdogs instead of animals able to fend for themselves. Stop breeding, buying and supporting the practice of owning pets and you won't have useless dogs that have to suffer when their owner quits loving them or can no longer take care of them.
I don't give a shit about a dog, but I would think people who do would want them treated better. If people are equal to dogs, why would you want to own them?
And I'm a "liberal douche" because I think a human's life is worth more than a dog's?!!?!?!
[Edited on April 29, 2008 at 10:07 AM. Reason : wow] 4/29/2008 9:47:26 AM |
Slacko All American 542 Posts user info edit post |
Altruism: Instinctive behavior that is detrimental to the individual but favors the survival or spread of that individual's genes, as by benefiting its relatives.
Doing for others to benefit yourself in the long run. There is no such thing as doing good deeds for no reason. At the least you will feel better and that is a reason that benefits you. 4/29/2008 10:13:20 AM |
fatcatt316 All American 3810 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "As for the selfless act, you'd be doing it so that you felt better about yourself for helping someone and that, in and of itself, is not selfless" |
I was going to say something like this, but no need to now.
As for good deeds, I wrote a letter to my 95-year-old step grandma in a nursing home in New York. I do not expect one back 4/29/2008 10:37:16 AM |
StillFuchsia All American 18941 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "name the last time you saw a ferrel golden retriever" |
?
Quote : | "you sir (or probably ma'am) are an idiot." |
and you sir, are a misogynist prick
who can't spell "feral"
I'm not taking sides, I just find it funny you'd 1) call someone an idiot and 2) further try to insult them by pointing out that they're female
when they weren't anyway
[Edited on April 29, 2008 at 11:59 AM. Reason : kudos! have a nice day! ]4/29/2008 11:53:21 AM |
Jader All American 2869 Posts user info edit post |
oh here we fucking go with the bullshit spelling corrections. go fuck yourself you uppity douche guzzler. 4/29/2008 12:02:02 PM |
nastoute All American 31058 Posts user info edit post |
it's just ass backwards to help a dog more than another person
anyway you slice it
to feel otherwise is more an indications of people's fucked up mentality than anything else
he didn't hand out money, he bought that dog 4x the amount of money in FOOD than the homeless dude
not drugs, not booze... fucking FOOD
it's just wrong 4/29/2008 2:35:56 PM |
mytwocents All American 20654 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "it's just ass backwards to help a dog more than another person anyway you slice it to feel otherwise is more an indications of people's fucked up mentality than anything else he didn't hand out money, he she bought that dog 4x the amount of money in FOOD than the homeless dude not drugs, not booze... fucking FOOD it's just wrong" |
It's really not. I mean if the dog is hungry he can't ask anyone for food...the guy can. The dog can't take money and by alcohol, drugs or cigs...the guy can. The dog can't go to a shelter (without being put down) the guy can.]4/29/2008 3:05:00 PM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
hey baby thanks for the post card, i got it yesterday.
that was very sweet of you to help out the less fortunate. 4/29/2008 3:12:38 PM |