yea dude theyre quick as hell no way you can just club one

5/10/2008 7:24:36 PM

i thought the benefit of hunting and getting a fresh kill like that is skinning the animal and cooking it and eating it the same night.

what this person (batheleigh) is proposing is killing the turkey and then waiting a week before eating it. sort of defeats the purpose. you can get a wild turkey / organic from a grocery store or something. probably cheaper than the cost of the winchester rounds and ridiculous wood camo clothes. and then there's having some dignity about your self and not looking like an idiot.

5/10/2008 7:37:04 PM

I got a turkey whilst bowlin the other day

5/10/2008 7:38:29 PM

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"i think it's a wasted kill"

It's getting eaten. While turkey is sold in stores, wild turkey is not. If you have never had it, you can not appreciate it. So, I don't expect your narrow mind to comprehend it. Nor do I really care what you think.

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""winchester rifle""

You can not kill birds with rifles.

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"i'm not bothered by it"

Then why do you keep on?

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"are turkeys fast? i'd think you could just run up and club them"

EXTREMELY fast! They are all legs, they walk all day long. Their legs are tough as crap, which is why they (wild turkey legs) are no good for eating. Farm raised turkeys don't walk around, that's why their legs are tasty.

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"i thought the benefit of hunting and getting a fresh kill like that is skinning the animal and cooking it and eating it the same night"

That's what you get for thinking! Game is so much better when it is cured. We cure all our big game, small game don't really matter though. We're not waiting a week while it sits in the fridge. It will cure for a couple more days then be frozen.

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"you can get a wild turkey / organic from a grocery store or something"

Do you not read before you reply? YOU CAN NOT BUY ANY WILD ANIMAL MEAT FROM GROCERY STORES! And organic is not the same. Wild turkey and farm raised turkeys are so genetically and biologically different also. And all the meat on a wild turkey is white meat. mmmmmmmmmm

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"and then there's having some dignity about your self and not looking like an idiot"

HAHAHAHAHAHA Coming from the dollar bucks pot head...... HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA

^ congratulations.

[Edited on May 10, 2008 at 10:20 PM. Reason : ]

5/10/2008 10:20:11 PM

wow nothing really brings out the faggy whiners like a hunting thread

5/10/2008 10:39:07 PM

Wild turkeys unlike your average butterball, also... fly

5/10/2008 10:42:46 PM

^ WHAT?!?! NO WAI!

^^ Tell me about it...

[Edited on May 10, 2008 at 10:50 PM. Reason : ]

5/10/2008 10:49:41 PM

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"Farm raised turkeys don't walk around, that's why their legs are tasty."

this statement here ruined your whole argument. there's nothing superior than eating an awesome turkey leg. for wild game turkey legs to taste like sh!t proves how inefficient hunting wild game really is. the good portions of the meat taste really sh!tty.

and what about me being a dollar bucks pothead. i got fucking civility. my martini's are shaken not stirred. i drink top shelve vodka with no chaser. when i'm feeling like giving an ode to the south i order a Jack D on the rocks.

the point i'm trying to make is you're damn near a pagan. do you drive an F-150 to the grocery store too. it's you motherfuckers that are ruining the country and preventing us from entering the 21st century. adopt some progressiveness. this rural area NC bullshit has to stop. adopt the Cary, Chapel Hill, outbanks vacation lifestyle.

5/10/2008 11:02:04 PM

eschuchen. LISTEN. now that i think about it. i've had wild game before. i ate it on Southpoint Mall in Durham at this wild game restaurant. i wasn't all that impressed. i did it more for a conversation piece.

you could easily just order your wild game food there. same difference and you don't have to spill blood or dress like an idiot to eat it.

5/10/2008 11:05:20 PM

amsterdam i know you gotta have connections in NC right?

5/10/2008 11:06:20 PM

Get over it Amsterdam. I don't give two shits what you think about me. I couldn't care less what you THINK about hunting, especially since it's obvious that you KNOW nothing. No matter what you have to say about civility, how fashionable camo looks, where else you can buy certain types of game meat - I'M STILL GOING TO HUNT, KILL AND CLEAN MY OWN GAME. THEN I'M GOING TO EAT IT BECAUSE I LIKE TO, BECAUSE I WANT TO, AND BECAUSE I ENJOY IT - AND IT IS WELL WORTH IT. At least I can do things for myself and I don't have to 'order' every little thing I want. I don't want your lifestyle, so stop trying to impose it on me - I'm not imposing my lifestyle on you.

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"there's nothing superior than eating an awesome turkey leg"

And this ruins all you ever had to say if you think that nothing is better than a turkey leg...

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"at this wild game restaurant"

Damn you're really that dumb! You ate FARM RAISED GAME SPECIES. You did not eat something that was roaming around in a forest, eating the natural diet of that species.



"wow nothing really brings out the faggy whiners like a hunting thread"
-Fermat

5/11/2008 10:14:21 AM

hardcore trollin right here

5/11/2008 10:22:48 AM

some phenomenal trolling up in this thread

5/11/2008 10:35:28 AM

Good going girl! You going after wild chicken next?

5/11/2008 10:54:56 AM

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"some phenomenal trolling up in this thread"

yeah. bethaleigh is doing some hardcore trolling. first off, it's not turkey season. who would sit and eat a turkey on any other day than Thanksgiving? around May, I'd eat a cornish hen at the most.

i call bullsh!t about the wild game restaurant comment. there's wild game there. i saw the taxidermy stuff on the walls. and the meat tasted gamey. it had a certain flavor to it.


i'm done calling beth out about this. i'm cooking scrambled eggs (organic) and turkey sausage (wild game sausage from Banquet) and a glass of O.J. (organic).

[Edited on May 11, 2008 at 10:57 AM. Reason : oh yeah. rye toast with honey too.]

5/11/2008 10:55:51 AM

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"THE MOST DANGEROUS GAME"

5/11/2008 11:04:27 AM

Turkey hunting is a real challenge and a lot of fun. I haven't gotten one yet, their vision is incredible.

Trying to call one in is a lot of fun and takes some skill. Now I am going to go eat some venison.

5/11/2008 11:06:18 AM

^ You would be interested to know some details then! We actually did a little bit of really quiet calling from the hill I was sitting on. I heard him gobble at about 8:45ish (pretty late!) from what sounded like way off. About 10 minutes later, I called again real quietly. About 5 minutes after that, I saw something move out of the corner of my eye, so I turned my head slowly and saw him on the ridge. He then gets almost behind me, so I slunk down behind the tree and got my Daddy on the radio, he was about 50 yards away from me. I asked him to call some to get the birds attention so I could move a little more while he was strutting. It totally worked! I was able to kinda roll my shoulders around the tree and shoot him when he was pretty much behind me. I probably would not have gotten the shot if my Daddy hadn't called for me, because that's what it took for him to strut and give me opportunities to move so much. I definitely am an experienced caller, but my Dad is exceptionally good. My calling is what brought him to the area, but Daddy's calling is what kept him there.

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"i call bullsh!t about the wild game restaurant comment. there's wild game there. i saw the taxidermy stuff on the walls. and the meat tasted gamey. it had a certain flavor to it."

hahahahahahhaha, nice try.

[Edited on May 11, 2008 at 11:31 AM. Reason : ]

5/11/2008 11:28:29 AM

i hear that a turkey's vision is so tremendously good that they can detect blinking of the eyes many yards away, and the best way to avoid this is by wearing a mesh net over your face.

5/11/2008 11:46:01 AM

yeah you really have to be in full camo and usually in a spot on a tree or something that helps to block even more. Three times I've had luck getting a turkey in but not close enough to shoot and little mistakes spooked them.

Sounds like it was key to be able to have someone else in the woods in a good spot to distract so you were able to get in position to shoot. Although reading the word "Daddy" written by someone over 12 did distract from the details a bit.

We always see a ton of turkey while deer hunting, they are interesting animals and pretty funny to watch them fly/roost.

5/11/2008 12:04:45 PM

^I usually type like I speak, and I call my Dad, Daddy. I don't always catch myself typing it out though.
And I don't know if his calling was imperative to me getting the shot, but it definitely helped. If I had called to him, he would have definitely left because they use their awesome hearing to direct their eyes to the source of the noise. And a lump behind a tree is definitely not a hen! It would have put him on red alert if he didn't make me out. And if I had not called at all, he would have just moseyed off. Getting him to strut was what really helped.
Yeah, watching them fly is pretty awesome. They must have super strong wings to lift such big bodies over the trees.

^^ Yes, I wear a mesh net with eye openings. I've had some turkeys so close I had to tilt my head down so my blue eyes (and really white face) did not catch their attention. The net also helps with mosquitos and gnats. I had 3 hens about 5 feet away from my foot the opening day of deer season this year. I was cold, so most of my face was covered. I didn't want so spook them so I had to let them hang out... for about 30 mins! They knew something wasn't quite right and they clucked at me a lot, but they never made me out.

This year I saw 17 turkeys, 6 of them being toms/jakes. The coolest was when 2 came in together and I missed a shot because the wind blew just as I was about to pull the trigger and blew a leaf right over the bead on my barrel. I'm kinda glad that one didn't work out because I may have killed both of them with one shot - which is illegal because you can only kill one a day. They were both pretty nice birds. Probably 2 year olds with ~8 inch beards.

BTW, my previous post is supposed to say that I am an INEXPERIENCED caller.

[Edited on May 11, 2008 at 5:50 PM. Reason : ]

5/11/2008 5:48:37 PM

How was Lonestar?

Did they play insert song that got moderate play on country radio 10-15 years ago?

5/11/2008 5:51:13 PM

damn.. good job. I've been turkey hunting 4 times. First time, I jacked up the call when I had one 50 yards away and since then I've only seen one shooter (which my dad promptly shot).

5/11/2008 5:51:23 PM

lemme come try some wild turkey

5/11/2008 5:52:00 PM

^^ Thank you! I've learned (the hard way) to not call anymore once you can see one. You'll get your chance! I hunted 9 times this season and saw or heard birds every time. I only didn't see birds like 2 times though. But we didn't go to the same place every time, we mixed it up among 3 properties.

^ Next Sunday!

[Edited on May 11, 2008 at 6:00 PM. Reason : ]

5/11/2008 5:59:02 PM

I'd seriously like to try it.. not sure that I'll be around next Sunday but it's a possibility

5/11/2008 6:01:21 PM

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"wait wait WAIT you killed an exceedingly stupid bird with a GUN? i'm impressed. "

i've never been turkey hunting, but by all accounts, they are one of the most difficult animals to hunt.

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"who cares enough to drill down the taste of turkey? we're talking about turkey? turkey? not practice, Turkey. there's not much too it. instead of pretending to be Elmer Fud, how about just going to Whole Foods or something and dropping $15 bucks on a fresh turkey. we're civilized and progressive now. there's enough turkey in the market for all of us. there is no shortage."

and what does this accomplish?

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"i still maintain that hunters who justify what they do as "sport" or "for the challenge" should be forced to hunt with their bare hands and a knife."

i take it you've never hunted anything. this sentiment is retarded.

that wouldn't be hunting--it would be an exercise in futility.

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"what this person (batheleigh) is proposing is killing the turkey and then waiting a week before eating it."

i didn't read the thread too closely, but i know with the deer i've shot, i let the meat age for a week or so before cooking it.

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"unless, it was like a religious slaughter or hunting because you really needed the food i think it's a wasted kill."

aside from the fact that you can't go buy wild turkey at the store, do you think meat at the store is synthesized in a lab or something?

5/11/2008 6:16:07 PM

Speaking as someone who hunts and can appreciate how hard turkey hunting is I congratulate you! I got my first turkey last year, what a feeling huh!? I thought buck fever was bad...well its nothing like turkey.

Did you guys have deeks up and what not for this guy to walk into? My Dad called in my first turkey for me, still trying to get the hang of the calling game. It's not as easy as they make it look. Congrats again!

<3

5/11/2008 6:36:23 PM

^^ I need to learn to be that blunt.

^ Thank you! Oh yes, turkey fever is WAY worse than buck fever! I think calling is fun. Usually my Dad and I talk on the radios, he'll tell me how many notes to give and then he'll tell me if it was good or not. Most of the time, I do good, but my first note is kinda slow. I need to practice more. I use a push button call right now, I want to learn to use a paddle, and eventually a mouth call. I did have a hen decoy set up about 25 yards in front of me, but the tom came in about 30 or so yards behind me. Our decoys don't move unless the wind blows (which it wasn't yesterday), so I really don't think that he even saw it, because he never made a move to go any closer to it. As soon as he got in sight, he started clucking a little, but my Dad's calling made him gobble 2 or 3 times - THAT was SOOOOO cool! I've waited all season to see strutting and gobbling, and I finally got to see it. How big was your first turkey?

5/11/2008 8:45:05 PM

CONGRATULATIONS!!!!

5/11/2008 8:48:40 PM

did you injure it with your shotgun and then finish it off with your pistol?

mercy killing

5/11/2008 8:57:13 PM

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"instead of pretending to be Elmer Fud, how about just going to Whole Foods or something and dropping $15 bucks on a fresh turkey. we're civilized and progressive now. there's enough turkey in the market for all of us. there is no shortage."

i do however think fishing is very fucking cool though. its just hunting that i can't get with. its not like we need to contain the "turkey" population. i think turkey hunting is acceptable in preparation for Thanksgiving. that's the only time it'd seem logical.

5/11/2008 9:09:16 PM

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"this rural area NC bullshit has to stop"

5/11/2008 9:51:48 PM

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"the point i'm trying to make is you're damn near a pagan. do you drive an F-150 to the grocery store too. it's you motherfuckers that are ruining the country and preventing us from entering the 21st century. adopt some progressiveness. this rural area NC bullshit has to stop. adopt the Cary, Chapel Hill, outbanks vacation lifestyle."

its weird but i both disagree and agree with this

[Edited on May 11, 2008 at 9:59 PM. Reason : not pertaining to bethaleigh of course...i wouldnt call her a pagen..just the cary, chapel hill part]

5/11/2008 9:59:13 PM

wow nothing really brings out the faggy whiners like a hunting thread

5/11/2008 10:03:22 PM

your boyfriend must be deep in the closet, because you are no woman.

5/11/2008 10:04:23 PM

Yours has a beautiful fan! But mine was smaller than yours. I'll tell you though when they gobble and they're w/in 30 yards....it seems to affect my heartbeat lol. I mean seriously it is soooooooooooo loud it seems to be coming from everywhere. My dad has mastered the mouth call, he has a box call next to him he uses at times too.


As for the radio thing we've never used that....he usually sits 10 or 15 yards behind me and basically tells me not to move haha. My first turkey wasn't a full fledged gobbler, it was a Jake, but shit you shoot whatever you can get to come in right? I have to say it was even better than my first buck...maybe b/c I was older and appreciated it more. (I got my first turkey last year, my deer I think when I was 12)

The thing w/ turkeys...alot like deer...they can come from ANYWHERE, so you can't be slack and not have your gun up and ready. Behind you is always a challenge, glad to hear youpulled it off!

[Edited on May 11, 2008 at 10:14 PM. Reason : .]

[Edited on May 11, 2008 at 10:15 PM. Reason : And I'm from Cary to by the way motherfuckers...so don't pull that shit...Upstate NY Hick right here]

5/11/2008 10:13:33 PM

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"i think turkey hunting is acceptable in preparation for Thanksgiving. that's the only time it'd seem logical"

Believe it or not, not all living things fit their lives around the humans schedule. Just because it's Thanksgiving does not mean that its a good time to be killing that species - which is why there is no turkey season that time of year. Most hunting seasons are based around the mating season or migration of that species. So, technically, there should not have been turkey at the first Thanksgiving. And since you are using Thanksgiving as your primary argument, why not eat what they ate - WILD turkey. Your argument is so inane. You need to read a life history report on turkeys if you want to understand it - but I'm sure you don't want to. Ignorance is bliss.

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"did you injure it with your shotgun and then finish it off with your pistol?"

Nah, I'm a one shot - one kill kinda girl! There's a target waiting to go down by the pistol though!

I wonder where all the whiners are that usually cry about me killing an 'animal' - and not crying because I am keeping someone else from "progressiveness". WHY IS NO ONE CRYING OVER THE BEAUTIFUL TURKEY?!?!?! THE SWEET, ONCE WAS A CUTE BABY, TURKEY?!?!?!?! 'BAMBI' OF THE TURKEYS?!?!

^^ Your "wife" must be the man in your relationship. Because you sure do whine a lot about nothing.

[Edited on May 11, 2008 at 10:17 PM. Reason : ]

5/11/2008 10:16:23 PM

wow nothing really brings out the faggy whiners like a hunting thread

5/11/2008 10:20:07 PM

The mouth call is really key if you can get it down, keeps your hands free and you can still call. Plus it limits movement even more. I'm pretty upset I wasn't able to go this year, but hopefully I can next year. Something to do till deer season, aside from fishing.

I think the stereotyping of hunters is great. I live in Cary, and don't fit the "profile" of a hunter at all. I've learned to not even bother getting in anti-hunting discussions with people anymore, people make up their minds and it just turns into pointless arguments as seen in this thread.

5/11/2008 10:27:24 PM

^^Oh my goodness! The gobble gets my heart racing no matter how far away it is. And when they gobble the whole way to you - that's when you think your boots are going to shake off your feet! I had a jake come in last Saturday within 30 feet. I was calling to 2 gobblers off in the distance, and they were both coming in - then all of a sudden, a jake came running up the hill beside me, caught me completely off guard. He was clucking and walking kinda fast like he was afraid the tom was going to come kick his butt any minute if he was caught up there. The odd thing is - his whole head was red, and I honestly could not see a beard. It just looked like a hen with one feather out of place making a little tuft on its chest, it wasn't even dark black like toms are supposed to be. It was 30 feet away from me - so I really would have shot it if I had seen the first sign of a beard and not just ruffled chest feathers. Then he wouldn't gobble - but he did go behind me and start fluffing his feathers and flashing his tail fan, he never would full out strut, or I would have shot him. I just refuse to shoot without positive proof.

I gave him 20 minutes to move along and get out of sight. The gobbler in the ditch was SO close, so I started calling to him again, and he came up the hill about 50+ yards behind and to my left. I never could see a beard, his head never flushed, and I never saw more than his back and head - so without 100% evidence of a tom - I refused to shoot, even though I just knew that was the gobbler that was talking back to me.

Just before the tom came into view - I heard running behind me. It was that jake again! He came running in and clucking, and then all of a sudden took off flying! I think he may have seen the tom as he approached and was scared to fight - because I'm pretty sure he never saw me. Plus he didn't give an alarm call, and the tom came on up the hill unalarmed.

I have been trying to get my Dad to sit with me all season! He just says "Well, I smoke and I don't want to give you away by moving or smoking". I just wanted him there with me for the first one like he was with my first deer. (For my first deer, we were walking to the stand when a 7 pt. buck just popped up.) I finally kept on and on about him sitting with me - so he agreed to it for the last day. Although I couldn't see him, he was right on the other side of a thicket this time!

We cleaned it today, this was the first time we didn't skin one, we scalded and plucked it. We noticed where he had been fighting, there was a puncture in one leg, and one of the spurs has a chipped tip. So, he was definitely at least 3 years old defending a territory. I wish now that I had aimed further in front of its head because there were a couple pellets in his back and I broke a wing - but then I may have risked missing him. But, at 42 yards - the pattern spreads out to about 2.5-3 feet wide!

^ You're exactly right about the arguments. People do make up their minds. And as you can see, they don't even care enough to read up on what they're arguing about! That's why I try more to point out where poeple are wrong and uneducated rather than arguing why hunting is so awesome.

[Edited on May 11, 2008 at 10:52 PM. Reason : ]

5/11/2008 10:40:44 PM

Yeah at that distance with the spread the chances of not having pellets go where you don't want is pretty slim. Being your first it was more important to just drop it, you would have been kicking yourself if you aimed to far forward. They are pretty tough animals too. Watching them fly is like watching a massive airplane take off. You just wonder if it is going to actually get off the ground.

I always enjoy sitting with my dad in the woods, although we end up talking about life and crap and it makes for pretty inefficient hunting. So we don't do it now until we've both gotten at least one of whatever we are hunting and the pressure is off. Funny enough we've also started texting in the woods instead of using radios. Works a lot better then radios.

5/11/2008 11:06:22 PM

Yeah, I'm just glad I got my first one! Especially since it was the last day, and I've had to pass up so many others!!
If Dad gets on the other side of a hill from me, the radios pick up a lot of static and we can't hear each other. Otherwise, the radios work great for us. We just click in about every 30 mins just to see what's up or talk about when to break for lunch or when to hit the call again.

[Edited on May 11, 2008 at 11:14 PM. Reason : ]

5/11/2008 11:13:42 PM

That is what we use to do, just turn the radios on every hour. Problem is my dad is cheap, and kept buying crap radios and we hunt around a lot of mountains/rocks. So we were just one day like, this is stupid why don't we just text, it always works, makes no noise, and if one of us has action nearby it isn't a distraction. Downside of that is my dad now texts the crap out of me all the time now(parents + technology..).

5/11/2008 11:18:17 PM

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"Your argument is so inane. You need to read a life history report on turkeys if you want to understand it"

i guess i'll never understand it if it means reading a life history report on turkeys. i think my argument is the matter of civility and structure amongst human beings. not that there's anything wrong with wearing camo, being pagan and slaughtering wild turkeys . i guess my objection is the manner in which you almost celebrated this. i think this activity should be closeted. it just goes against the mores of 21st Century American life. i'd have given you kudos if this was the 1950s North Carolina, or even the 70s. but we've entered a new era. adopt it, accept it. we are modernity.

5/11/2008 11:42:55 PM

So should we quit playing baseball too? I mean, we have CO2 powered launchers that can shoot a ball much further then anyone can hit it. Yet they hit a home run and we celebrate.

It is the 21st century, why are people chucking a ball toward someone, and why are they swinging at it with a piece of wood?

We have snow mobiles, why does anyone compete in cross country skiing, and win a gold medal for it? People fix up old sports cars, show them off at auto shows, how fucking stupid we have NEW cars with computers. Who would mess with an OLD car?

Sorry, your argument that the age we live in should dictate how we act doesn't hold water because so much of what people do and enjoy aren't "21st Century." Find a new argument.

Again, I hate getting into this because it is a pointless argument that will just end up spoiling the purpose of the thread. If you don't like hunting that is fine.

5/12/2008 12:11:58 AM

Congrats on the turkey.
I didn't even go this season because I suck so bad at hunting them.
I can't seem to find them during the season and I can't call worth a damn. When it's deer season I always run into them.

Turkeys are very fast. I was in Northampton Co a couple weeks ago to look at some timber.
We saw a flock of them in a field and when we drove up they scattered. A couple ran along the path and were outpacing my truck...which was going 20 mph.
A turkey running fast as shit is a funny scene.

5/12/2008 2:24:16 AM

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"Sorry, your argument that the age we live in should dictate how we act doesn't hold water because so much of what people do and enjoy aren't "21st Century." Find a new argument. Again, I hate getting into this because it is a pointless argument that will just end up spoiling the purpose of the thread. If you don't like hunting that is fine."

You've said enough, Corky.

5/12/2008 8:42:14 PM