we have to coddle terror suspects...I WILL NOT LIVE IN A WORLD WHERE A TERROR SUSPECT CANNOT GET A FULL 8 HOURS OF SLEEP EACH DAY

6/10/2008 6:19:52 PM

we certainly should at least be able to destroy evidence involved in terror cases. it's only fair right?

6/10/2008 6:24:23 PM

what does your strawman have to do with the price of rice in china?

6/10/2008 6:25:54 PM

Quote :

"And who's the say the possibility of more poor getting better educations won't help the economy in the medium term?"

Last time i checked $500 is not enough to get a college education. besides who are we kidding sally sue is not going to use that $500 for course at the local community college. Otherwise i would agree; i think the gov't paying to help educate people is a good investment of tax payer money.

6/10/2008 6:26:51 PM

well, apparently there are memos instructing interrogators to destroy evidence involved in the upcoming terror case against that suspected terrorist from toronto (can't think of his name right now)

6/10/2008 6:27:20 PM

so you dont have a link and you cant remember the guy's name, and you use a strawman

k

6/10/2008 6:27:59 PM

i didn't read it on the internet, correct, and i guess.

from the chicago tribune:

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"SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico — The Pentagon urged interrogators at Guantanamo Bay to destroy handwritten notes in case they were called to testify about potentially harsh treatment of detainees, a military defense lawyer said Sunday. The lawyer for Toronto-born Omar Khadr, Lt. Cmdr. William Kuebler, said the instructions were included in an operations manual shown to him by prosecutors and suggest the U.S. deliberately thwarted evidence that could help terror suspects defend themselves at trial. Kuebler said he will seek a dismissal of charges against Khadr. A Pentagon spokesman, Cmdr. Jeffrey Gordon, said he was reviewing the matter Sunday evening. "

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-guantanmo-natjun09,0,4497136.story

[Edited on June 10, 2008 at 6:30 PM. Reason : .]

for what it's worth, i'm trying to make the broader point that we're not treating our terror suspects in a reasonable way consistent with the basic principles on which this country has thrived

[Edited on June 10, 2008 at 6:32 PM. Reason : .]

6/10/2008 6:29:25 PM

fair enough on the broader point

6/10/2008 6:38:22 PM

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"how is security vs. freedom not an analogy of thought vs. emotion? oh yeah, it is...dumb fuck"

Security v. freedom is an example of how emotion is involved in rational thought.

I wasn't doing anything resembling an analogy.


LOL, SECURITY V. FREEDOM IS LIKE APPLES AND ORANGES, LOL

[Edited on June 10, 2008 at 7:15 PM. Reason : ]

6/10/2008 7:12:45 PM

the discussion was about thought versus emotion, and whether or not they were independent or were definitively coexistant...the analogy is security and freedom...are they completely independent (no) or should there be a happy medium...but i guess that logic went over your head...i didnt explain it with enough emotion for you to "feel" it

6/10/2008 7:17:59 PM

If it were truly be an analogy, as you say,

I'd be comparing thought to security, and thinking to freedom.

That doesn't even make sense.

Is it sinking in, yet?

6/10/2008 7:24:27 PM

you're dumber than i ever imagined

6/10/2008 7:26:49 PM

twista's brain hasn't matured to the point where he can think outside of the concrete, Boone. dont expect him to be able to grasp abstract analogies.

it's not his fault. and its okay, because those people typically do well in the skilled trades.

6/10/2008 7:45:25 PM

coming from JoeSchmoe i'll take that as a compliment

6/11/2008 12:53:54 AM

it's "joe_schmoe", biatch.

6/11/2008 12:39:23 PM

whoops, i didnt know which of your multiple aliases the wannabe moderator was using at the time

6/11/2008 12:47:56 PM

6/11/2008 8:34:53 PM