packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
First off it was Byron Russell....lol....he was one of my favorite players because I liked his attitude.
Second I know you love hating on Nash but my God the Shaq he got was just a little bit slower and older than the one Kobe had.
Third Scottie Pippen is better than 3 Lamar Odoms. 6/19/2008 12:44:20 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
yeah i always get confused to whether or not its byron or bryan...either way he's not exactly the defender that pierce is
and yeah thats why i didnt like the shaq trade for the suns and didnt think they had a chance to win anything...i'm surprised shaq held up in miami long enough for them to win a title 6/19/2008 12:46:20 AM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
That Shaq for Marion trade might be the worst trade since Vlade for Kobe.... 6/19/2008 12:54:37 AM |
Sleik All American 11177 Posts user info edit post |
No, the worst one happened right around the same time as Shaq/Shawn... it was when Pau Gasol was traded to LA for Kwame Brown/Javaris Crittenton. 6/20/2008 10:17:34 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
That's nowhere near as bad as Divac for Bryant. 6/20/2008 10:59:52 PM |
vonjordan3 AIR 43669 Posts user info edit post |
oh come on 7/4/2008 10:37:09 PM |
Dammit100 All American 17605 Posts user info edit post |
^^kobe outright said he wouldn't play for any team other than LA. So the hornets took him, just to get something from the Lakers. 7/5/2008 8:03:33 AM |
vonjordan3 AIR 43669 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.michaeljordansworld.com/comparison_current_stars.htm
Screw you guys
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packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
To quote Chuck Amato:
"Statistics are for losers"
The fact that Vince Carter is in that list makes it bad.... 8/26/2008 5:10:15 PM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
I think we all know that the second the page loaded, vonjordan3 started beating off furiously. 8/26/2008 6:18:42 PM |
Noen All American 31346 Posts user info edit post |
The only numbers I care about are the FG percentages. And Jordan was better. He was a better shooter, consistently, than Kobe has ever been. He played better defense than Kobe ever has. 8/26/2008 11:02:18 PM |
vonjordan3 AIR 43669 Posts user info edit post |
ahaha 8/27/2008 7:50:09 AM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The only numbers I care about are the FG percentages. And Jordan was better. He was a better shooter, consistently, than Kobe has ever been. He played better defense than Kobe ever has." |
Jordan was a lot of things, but a better shooter wasn't one of them.
While Jordan's overall FG percentage is higher (because that's what dunking over unathletic white guys will net you), Kobe's career free throw percentage and three-point percentage are both higher than Jordan's.8/27/2008 8:26:28 AM |
ItsNme Suspended 731 Posts user info edit post |
Kobe is definitely a better shooter than Mike
but other than that MJ has him by a small margin
Defense: very close Ball-handling: both are good but not great Clutch: Both are pretty damn clutch Passing: Both can be good but both are shoot first Shooting: Kobe Rings: MJ MVPS: MJ
If Jordan is the best player of all time then Kobe will finish his career as the second best. 8/27/2008 9:51:08 AM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
Jordan will be better simply because he won so much.
LeBron is quickly moving up. Not really close on the shooting consistently, but when he's hot he's on fire. Probably a better finisher around the net than Kobe or Michael. Easily the best passer of the 3. Solid on defense but not as good probably. Keep in mind that he's also only like 22 or something like that so there's TONS of room for improvement still. 8/27/2008 10:16:38 AM |
sabonis34 Veteran 371 Posts user info edit post |
http://youbeenblinded.com/michael-jordan-me-vs-kobe-not-even-close/1430 8/27/2008 11:29:03 AM |
ItsNme Suspended 731 Posts user info edit post |
Lebrons biggest weakness is his shooting ability 8/27/2008 11:29:07 AM |
titans78 All American 4038 Posts user info edit post |
LeBron is going to have to deal with being compared to Magic more then MJ.
MJ is the best ever, and Kobe will not get to #2 on that list unless he wins a title w/out Shaq. 8/27/2008 11:33:28 AM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Kobe is definitely a better shooter than Mike
but other than that MJ has him by a small margin
Defense: very close Ball-handling: both are good but not great Clutch: Both are pretty damn clutch Passing: Both can be good but both are shoot first Shooting: Kobe Rings: MJ MVPS: MJ" |
MJ was the better ball-handler and passer. He averaged more assists and fewer turnovers. MJ was also more clutch, considering that he never laid down in the NBA finals the way Kobe did against Boston AND Detroit.8/27/2008 11:43:00 AM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
To be fair, MJ never won a title without Pippen I don't think. 8/27/2008 4:04:16 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "He was a better shooter, consistently, than Kobe has ever been." |
HAHA
COME ON8/27/2008 4:07:41 PM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "MJ was the better ball-handler and passer. He averaged more assists and fewer turnovers." |
In fairness, MJ never spent years passing to Smush Parker and Kwame Brown either.8/27/2008 4:10:30 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37696 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "To be fair, MJ never won a title without Pippen I don't think." |
and kobe never won one where he was the #1 guy (or without shaq, but that is almost secondary)8/27/2008 6:52:49 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
in fairness, neither of them won a title without Phil Jackson
btw even though Phil Jackson never won a title without either Jordan/Pippen or Shaq/Kobe either, there are plenty of other coaches who have never won a title and they've had stars of their own, so you can't completely take coaching out of the equation
but seriously, you can't truly compare Jordan to Lebron or Kobe or anybody yet until Lebron or Kobe or whoever gets done playing...whats that? Jordan has scored more career points than Kobe? SHOCKING!
also I'd say the Lakers are preseason favorites to win it all next year assuming they keep everyone and add a healthy Bynum to the mix...but again its hard to judge eras
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packpunk Veteran 110 Posts user info edit post |
^like anyone cares about this dumbfuck's opinion 8/27/2008 7:50:20 PM |
vonjordan3 AIR 43669 Posts user info edit post |
^^It is the stupid fucking media that does that, the NBA is the only sport that has a guy come right out of high school and says he is better than a guy that played 15 seasons... 8/28/2008 8:03:51 AM |
ItsNme Suspended 731 Posts user info edit post |
Kobe is the closest thing to Michael Jordan that we will ever see. Quit Hating on kobe! Lebron is nowhere near jordanesque. He is a whole different beast. Kobe is #2 and that is as good as anyone will ever get. 8/28/2008 9:45:57 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
^^I don't think anybody said Kobe or Lebron was better than Mike when they came into the league...they said more along the lines of "if anybody can be as good or better than Jordan, this guy has the potential
Besides, Lebron was putting up 20/6/6 as an 18 year old against NBA players while at age 18 Jordan was, like most other players, in his freshman year at college. It's pretty much impossible to argue that Jordan at 18 was as good as Lebron at 18 8/28/2008 10:46:22 AM |
vonjordan3 AIR 43669 Posts user info edit post |
i disagree
10/11/2008 5:07:27 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
Uh, that was a dunk from a dunk contest.
You know who is good at dunking? Josh Smith. 10/11/2008 5:09:30 PM |
Fermata All American 3771 Posts user info edit post |
If you were going to straight-up design the perfect guard it would come out looking like Kobe.
MJ made the game fun to watch. 10/11/2008 5:11:53 PM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
I'm pretty sure at least 1/4 of the NBA can make that dunk at this point. 10/11/2008 7:20:29 PM |
vonjordan3 AIR 43669 Posts user info edit post |
Im pretty sure that everyone has made a lot of money for doing that as well
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