i can't believe this hasn't been posted here:

http://rockband.scorehero.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11340

Game Informer article about RB2. So much excellent news, but I'll let you all ready about it.


PREMIUM DRUM SET IS ALL MINE, BITCHES.

7/11/2008 12:40:27 PM

this all sounds good

7/11/2008 1:16:38 PM

I do like that the new drum set has attachments for cymbals at a later point

now if only when I RMA my drum set I could get a pair of those back in the mail.....

7/11/2008 1:24:48 PM

the best part about it: you can just buy an electronic drum brain and plug it in, and you've got yourself a real (fake) drumset. For someone like me, who was considering getting a real set anyway, that's totally awesome.

7/11/2008 1:49:51 PM

Kotaku had an 83 track list of rumored songs. Most of them were in the rumored 60 track list. Take it for what it's worth.

Quote :

" And on to the leaked track lists. The first is from Demp, a commenter on 8bitfix, and he's got the FOAF who saw the email source. That's like fourth-hand hearsay, but whatever, this ain't court."

1 AC/DC Let There Be Rock
2 AFI Girl's Gone Grey
3 Alanis Morissette You Oughta Know
4 Alice in Chains Man in the Box
5 Allman Brothers Ramblin' Man
6 Avenged Sevenfold Almost Easy
7 Bad Company Shooting Star
8 Beastie Boys So Whatcha Want
9 Beck E-Pro
10 Bikini Kill Rebel Girl
11 Billy Idol White Wedding Pt I
12 Blondie One Way or Another
13 Bob Dylan Tangled Up in Blue
14 Bon Jovi Livin' on a Prayer
15 Cheap Trick Hello There
16 Devo Uncontrollable Urge
17 Dinosaur Jr Feel the Pain
18 Disturbed Down with the Sickness
19 Donnas, The New Kid in School
20 Dream Theater Panic Attack
21 Duran Duran Hungry Like the Wolf
22 Elvis Costello Pump it Up
23 Fleetwood Mac Go Your Own Way
24 Foo Fighters Everlong
25 Go-Go's, The We Got the Beat
26 Grateful Dead, The Alabama Getaway
27 Guess Who, The American Woman
28 Guns N' Roses Shackler's Revenge
29 Interpol PDA
30 Jane's Addiction Mountain Song
31 Jethro Tull Aqualung
32 Jimmy Eat World The Middle
33 Joan Jett Bad Reputation
34 Journey Anyway You Want It
35 Judas Priest Painkiller
36 Kansas Carry On Wayward Son
37 L7 Pretend We're Dead
38 Lacuna Coil Our Truth
39 Linkin Park One Step Closer
40 Lit My Own Worst Enemy
41 Lush De-Luxe
42 Mastodon Colony of Birchmen
43 Megadeth Peace Sells
44 Metallica Battery
45 Mighty Mighty Bosstones Where'd You Go
46 Modest Mouse Float On
47 Motorhead Ace of Spades
48 Muffs, The Kids in America
49 Nirvana Drain You
50 Norman Greenbaum Spirit in the Sky
51 Offspring, The Come Out & Play (Keep 'em Seperated)
52 Panic at the Disco Nine in the Afternoon
53 Paramore That's What You Get
54 Pearl Jam Alive
55 Presidents of the USA Lump
56 Rage Against the Machine Testify
57 Ratt Round & Round
58 Red Hot Chili Peppers Give it Away
59 Replacements, The Alex Chilton
60 Rise Against Give it All
61 Rush The Trees
62 Silversun Pickups Lazy Eye
63 Smashing Pumpkins Today
64 Social Distortion I Was Wrong
65 Sonic Youth Teenage Riot
66 Soundgarden Spoonman
67 Squeeze Cool for Cats
68 Steely Dan Bodhitsattva
69 Steve Miller Band Rock'n Me
70 Survivor Eye of the Tiger
71 System of a Down Chop Suey
72 Talking Heads Psycho Killer
73 Tenacious D Master Exploder
74 Testament Souls of Black
75 Who, The Pinball Wizard
BONUS SONGS (all HMX bands)
76 Abnormality Visions
77 Anarchy Club Get Clean
78 Bang Camaro Night Lies
79 Breaking Wheel Shoulder to the Plow
80 Libyans, The Neighborhood
81 Main Drag, The A Jagged Georgeous Winter.
82 Speck Conventional Lover
83 Sterns, The Supreme Girl
84 That Handsome Devil Rob the Prez-O-Dent

7/11/2008 10:38:00 PM

I wonder how many people will need throat surgery after trying to sing Ace of Spades?

7/11/2008 11:02:35 PM

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"64 Social Distortion I Was Wrong"

good shit

7/11/2008 11:35:39 PM

looks great

7/12/2008 10:37:56 AM

Ace of Spades FTW

7/12/2008 10:46:15 AM

i really like that list

7/12/2008 1:07:56 PM

Bad Company Shooting Star, Dinosaur Jr Feel the Pain, Fleetwood Mac Go Your Own Way, Jethro Tull Aqualung, Nirvana Drain You, and Talking Heads Psycho Killer = OMGOMGOMG

Squeeze Cool for Cats = LOL

7/12/2008 9:35:01 PM

So that 84 song list up there was just confirmed to be legit. Also announced, they will all be master tracks, no covers. And there will be DLC 20 songs available at launch that you will be able to get for FREE.

7/14/2008 2:45:19 PM

WTF? You have to pay to get the RB1 songs into RB2?

It's under $5, but still? what is that fee for?



http://www.joystiq.com/2008/07/14/rock-band-disc-content-can-be-ported-to-rb2-for-5/

7/14/2008 3:42:39 PM

I think that's a really trivial amount for the convenience. I wonder how they'll prevent people from borrowing their friend's disc and downloading the data. Maybe each RB1 disc has some sort of unique identity.

7/14/2008 4:05:47 PM

hahahahahaha

so much for them "caring for the fans"

^ even if it is "trivial", when does it stop?

Why not $0.25 every time you want to download a demo?

$1 to hook up your xbox to your pc to play music?

Just because it's not breaking the bank doesn't mean it's not completely BS

[Edited on July 14, 2008 at 4:08 PM. Reason : .]

7/14/2008 4:07:18 PM

I don't know where people get this idea that game companies are altruistic entities out for the customers' best interest. They're businesses trying to turn a profit. In that respect Harmonix has demonstrated an overwhelming willingness to advocate for consumers. Just because they can't make heavens open and the angels sing doesn't mean they're incredibly greedy. They do have to work with EA, the company who made people PAY to unlock codes.

Rock Band 2 already looks to give the best value of any music rhythm game to date. 84 songs, all master tracks and 20 additional songs for free. $5 for the convenience is nothing.

7/14/2008 4:25:49 PM

I was referring more to the people that will break their neck to defend Harmonix

7/14/2008 4:28:20 PM

possible reasons for the transfer fee:
-to make a tiny bit off the thieves who transfer the songs from a rented or borrowed disc
-to slightly deter said thieves
-to recoup the cost to develop the transfer process
-if the 'transfer' involves downloading anything at all from live (possibly the entire songs), MS would want a fee even if it would otherwise be free
-maybe some bands had a change-of-media clause or somesuch that entitles them to a few cent per transfer

If you don't think $4-5 is worth it to avoid disc swapping, just don't pay for it. you're sure as shit not entitled to it at all

7/14/2008 4:31:34 PM

Billy Idol! Now I'm going to have to get this game. I've wanted Billy Idol music in Rock Band ever since I saw that you could create a character to look almost just like him.

7/14/2008 4:33:13 PM

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"I don't know where people get this idea that game companies are altruistic entities out for the customers' best interest. They're businesses trying to turn a profit. In that respect Harmonix has demonstrated an overwhelming willingness to advocate for consumers. Just because they can't make heavens open and the angels sing doesn't mean they're incredibly greedy. They do have to work with EA, the company who made people PAY to unlock codes."

I completely agree. I never said that Harmonix wasn't out to get your money. I've just always said there are varying levels of greed out there and from what I've seen, Harmonix is on the low end of that scale.

Narrowminded haters like Drovkin just want to put them all in the same "Dey took er money" basket and be done with it.

7/14/2008 7:13:22 PM

Quote :

"Narrowminded haters like Drovkin just want to put them all in the same "Dey took er money" basket and be done with it."

i be hatin yo

7/14/2008 8:37:05 PM

Quote :

"I've just always said there are varying levels of greed out there and from what I've seen, Harmonix is on the low end of that scale. "

trying to make a living isn't greed.

7/14/2008 8:40:55 PM

they were talking about rb2 on 96 rock this morning and the woman on there was like "i hope this one has a tambourine!!"

apparently she's never played the game...

7/15/2008 8:28:27 AM

hahaha wow

7/15/2008 8:33:52 AM

hahahaha, that's awesome

I still think they need a cowbell attachment that will be inserted in the cymbal slot on the drums

7/15/2008 8:35:52 AM

that list above has also been confirmed

7/15/2008 10:57:16 AM

Here's an explanation as to why there's a $5 fee.

Basically they have to re-license every song over again in order to put it into RB2

http://www.joystiq.com/2008/07/15/harmonix-clarifies-rb1-compatibility-to-rock-band-2/

7/15/2008 9:39:41 PM

I'm way excited about the journey song

Also, surprised they chose to include static x

7/15/2008 9:48:51 PM

they also mentioned some of the RB1 songs won't be making it over to RB2. Train kept rollin' is pretty much guaranteed not to make the jump because of GH:Aerosmith. Good riddance.

7/17/2008 9:36:04 AM

So is it better or worse for music gaming that Act and Harm split?

On the one hand, it now causes competition and they are always striving to outdo the other

but then again, we don't have access to several songs because of licensing and all that junk

7/17/2008 9:42:36 AM

so about the new drum set, if it can be converted to a real fake drum kit, then can i go the other way? i have a real fake drum kit, how can i hook it up to use it in rock band?

7/17/2008 10:05:28 AM

i doubt it

7/17/2008 10:29:28 AM

Yeah, that re-lisencing fee is a royal pain. Konami had to go through the same thing for DDR. That's why Pump It Up usually just lisenced a few specific unique artists to do songs specifically for their songs. Unfortunately, that cop-out isn't an option for a game like this that's actually going to be, you know, POPULAR.
I cried when I saw Battery on the list. For one, I'd love to play this song, but god damn, I think that's about the only thing I could think of that would be harder than Blackened.

7/17/2008 10:44:42 AM

^^

7/17/2008 1:55:44 PM

http://arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs.ars/2008/07/17/the-new-rock-band-2-instruments-300-drums-worth-it

7/17/2008 5:13:31 PM

i always thought the game was so dark. i mean i know you have little avatar characters like GH, but it just seems so bland while you're playing...

7/18/2008 8:59:51 AM

Can you really focus on what's going on in the background?

Watching some of the youtube music videos on these songs in RB2 though, I do wish they could splash those in the background, lol

7/18/2008 9:16:23 AM

i rarely notice anything but the little multi-colored bars flying by. the only time i really notice anything else that's going on is during black hole sun or any of the other songs w/ the strobe light effect.

7/18/2008 9:21:33 AM

solid game

9/14/2008 11:04:03 PM

I'm kinda hoping the 20 song free DLC will be revealed before the ps3 version comes out at least, but not holding out too much hope

10/7/2008 11:38:18 PM

I'm still kinda hoping the Wii will have DLC at all

10/7/2008 11:49:59 PM

^I'm pretty sure they just announced that. I'm looking forward to the offspring tracks this week.

10/8/2008 7:25:10 AM

^You're right! I'd been too busy to follow it lately so this is great news

10/8/2008 8:06:58 AM

got the offspring pack plus bad to the bone and under the bridge...

pretty fly is pretty fun on drums because you get to hit all the other drums in the song that aren't the regular drumset

btw...this is rumored 20 songs:

1. Honest Bob - Tatooine
2. Against Me! - Stop!
3. Static-X - Push It
4. George Thorogood - Bad to the Bone
5. Blink 182 - Dammit
6. Free - All Right Now
7. Dead Kennedys - Holiday in Cambodia
8. Hot Hot Heat - Bandages
9. Bad Religion - Suffer
10. Turbonegro - All My Friends Are Dead
11. The Haunted - Shadow World
12. Pennywise - The Western World
13. Rancid - Fall Back Down
14. Sublime - Santeria
15. Taking Back Sunday - What’s It Feel Like To Be A Ghost
16. The Breeders - Cannonball
17. Sepultura - Refuse/Resist
18. Queens of the Stone Age - No One Knows
19. The Killers - Somebody Told Me
20. Harvey Danger - Cream and Bastards Rise


but i dont get how these would be free since some of them were released as dlc already, that'd be bs unless they give me my money back

10/8/2008 9:25:35 AM

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"but i dont get how these would be free since some of them were released as dlc already, that'd be bs unless they give me my money back"

yeah, this would be totally against what most video game producers do

It's not like they give money back when people buy halo map packs early

10/8/2008 9:48:25 AM

Quote :

"5. Blink 182 - Dammit 6. Free - All Right Now 8. Hot Hot Heat - Bandages 14. Sublime - Santeria 18. Queens of the Stone Age - No One Knows"

Oh snap!

I don't have this yet, so I haven't been keeping up with the news about DLC or anything. I'm waiting to get the full bundle for one price. Should come out this month.

Any thoughts on the new drum set? Better than the first or what?

10/8/2008 10:14:04 AM

just preordered mine: http://search.deepdiscount.com/search?w=rock%20band%202&
free shipping, no sales tax. waiting another week is worth saving $30, i think.

i doubt i'll be getting the cymbal pack. it'd be lame to hit the cymbals and have tom sounds come out of them. the double bass pedal in the future might be useful, i might end up getting it.

10/8/2008 12:03:40 PM

In the Drum Trainer and during drum fills, the cymbals act as cymbals. It's better than nothing, anyway.

and the double bass pedal is really pretty useless, since they don't even chart double bass.

[Edited on October 8, 2008 at 12:15 PM. Reason : d]

10/8/2008 12:14:59 PM

im gonna get the cymbal pack

also, i have the new drums, def better than the original set

10/8/2008 1:28:22 PM

has anyone tried using pads with the new drum set? I've got some 1/4" gum rubber covers on my RB1 set and was wondering if the change in sensitivity will prevent them from working with the RB2 set.

I really like the velocity-sensitive aspect, and especially the fact that it's wireless. But I'm kinda reluctant because I got a really good RB1 set out of the box, it's the only thing that hasn't crapped out on me and I'm not sure I want to take the gamble with a RB2 set.

10/8/2008 1:48:59 PM