Ok I already posted some initial guidelines but I drew up some more detailed rules this afternoon

As always, open to suggestions

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THE RULES:

PREAMBLE: I have taken a lot of time to designate rules that are best suited for ALL players. I take our rules VERY seriously, there will be NO lax attitudes when it comes to obeying the rules by the owners, or administering judgments by the administration. These rules are very basic rules that everyone can agree upon. They are not designed to limit fun but rather to guide gameplay within reason. Creativity and fun are emphasized in this league, but the reason we will LOVE this league is because it limits cheating and questionable gameplay tactics. DO NOT BE FOOLED: I am a nice guy, but if you do not respect the league, its owners or the rules … YOU WILL BE REMOVED. IGNORANCE OF THE RULES IS NOT AN EXCUSE… if it is not important enough for you to take 5 minutes to read AND KNOW the rules, then the league is not important to you, and when you slipup, as you will if you do not know the rules, YOU WILL BE REMOVED.


I. FAIR GAMEPLAY AND RESPECT
ABOVE ALL ELSE, fair gameplay and respect is vital to this league. This is the NUMBER ONE RULE in our league. I will NOT tolerate any disrespectful play or attempts by any owners to circumvent the rules. If you do not agree with my rules and cannot adjust your gameplay style to fit within the rules, simply find another league. Because if you chose to not follow the rules set-out for the entire ownership group, you will be finding another league soon enough anyways. Fair gameplay and respect are essential. I will be very strict in this aspect because it defines our essence as a league.

- DISRESPECTFUL TALK IS NOT PERMITTED. We understand that in the heat of battle things can be said and words can be exchanged. But DO NOT make this a recurring theme. If you are constantly being disrespectful to others then you will be removed from the league, no questions asked. An owner of this personality type really has no place in our league and does not fit in.

- ARGUMENTS AND DISPUTES will be handled in a PRIVATE manner between the two coaches, their conference commissioner and, if necessary, a league administrator. DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT publicly disrespect your opponent or file a complaint on the message boards, in the scouting report or in the game recap. If you do, THE MESSAGE WILL BE REMOVED and, if necessary, the OWNER WILL BE REMOVED also. **THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT RULE and there will be little tolerance for those who chose not to acknowledge it.

- PLAY WITHIN THE SPIRIT of the game. Running the same play 15 times again and again, while stoppable for most good coaches, IS NOT what we are looking for. You MUST open up your playbook. Use different plays this will make the game, in the long run, more enjoyable for you and ESPECIALLY for your opponent. Going for it on 4 and 37 in the first quarter is not realistic football. Five onside kicks a game is not realistic football. I think you get the point. If you are going to be a coach in this league it is important to remember that there is more than one way to skin a cat. Be imaginative. No one is saying you can't do your "money play"...just mix it up with the other 200 plays in your book. Do not abuse “money plays” that take advantage of an AI flaw in the game.


II. Game Setup

THE BASICS:

DIFFICULTY – ALL-AMERICAN
LENGTH OF GAME – 5 Minute Quarters
INJURIES - ON
PLAYBOOKS - You may use ANY playbook offered online


SUBSTITUTIONS:
QB: QB. (Any player with a 70+ in THP may be a BACK-UP)
HB: HB
FB: FB
WR: WR
TE: TE, FB
OL: OL
DL: DL
LB: LB, DL
CB: CB, S
S: S, CB, LB

--RBs will no longer be allowed to play FB regardless of their blocking numbers, packaging allows for two tailbacks to be on the field at the same time..
--No offensive players on Defense and vice versa.
--The #1 and #2 overall WRs must be used in the #1 and/or #2 positions. Placing a quality receiver down on your depth chart to take advantage of matchups is unacceptable.

PACKAGES: (new for 06/07/0
With regards to the above three bulleted items there will now be a slight limitation of packages. ALL packages are available to use and are "fair game" with these 2 exceptions.
-- #1 WR CANNOT be moved into the slot. There are about a dozen offensive formations that allow you #1 WR to be moved to the slot. The ONLY defensive formation that allows you to move your #1 CB into the slot is nickel. This is not equitable and therefore not allowed.
-- CB 5 Wide - in the 5-wide sets there is a package that allows for a CB to line up at WR. In staying consistent with "no defensive players on offense" this package cannot be used.



SCHEDULING

- ALL OWNERS MUST HAVE AN ACTIVE EMAIL ACCOUNT AND AOL INSTANT MESSENGER. These two things are not difficult to have but are essential to our league. If you cannot get AIM or email, then you cannot participate in our league.


[Edited on July 11, 2008 at 5:53 PM. Reason : x]

7/11/2008 5:52:16 PM

III. GAMEPLAY RULES

No "gimmick" play that takes advantage of the AI is EVER acceptable, this includes such tricks as "Nano-Blitzing", "Delay Bumping" and odd-ball plays like WR Direct. If you want to play like this, you don't belong here.

Obviously 09 has a few more "Urban Meyerish" plays than previous versions. While we will not put a set limit on the #of plays keep in mind the spirit of the game and do not abuse the plays nor use as the basis for your offense. Remember you will ultimately receive a rating by your opponent after the game.

A. Kickoffs

Onside kickoffs are allowed in applicable situations. They are NOT to be abused. An owner is allowed to attempt to catch his opponent off guard once in a while, but again are NOT to be abused. If you wish to kick an onside kick you MUST use an onside kick formation. ONSIDE KICKS from standard kickoff formations ARE NOT ALLOWED. The ball must travel at least 30 yards for the kicking team to recover an onside out of a standard formation.

B. Offense

It is best for all parties to just remember that we’re looking for realistic gameplay in our league. Because “realism” is debateable there is a bit of room for dispute, but if your opponent is doing something questionable it is best to pause the game and discuss the situation with your opponent IN A CIVIL MANNER. We are all adults here, and we expect you to act like one.

Because EA just can't seem to figure these plays out, from this point forward the HB Direct and the QB Fake Spike are banned. The rarity of the plays occurances in "real" life does not jusify their use as the AI is apparently not going to be fixed.

MOTION -- You MAY motion all offensive players: TE, WR, HB, and FB. HOWEVER, ONCE across and ONCE back is sufficient to determine the coverage and to put the motioned player in the position you want. DO NOT ABUSE MOTION. ANY PLAYER in motion MUST CLEAR THE TACKLES AND BE *SET* BEFORE THE SNAP.

ANY EA designed plays involving motion and an auto snap of the ball while a player is between the tackles IS Acceptable.

QB PLAY -- QBs are only allowed to drop back 7-10 yards from their snap position (keep in mind Shotgun forms start about 506 yards deep) during pass plays (except when under extreme duress by the defense). This rule is in place to prevent the popular tactic of dropping your QB 10-20 yards deep to allow your WRs time to break free from defensive coverage. QB Roll-outs are deemed legal. However, be careful that you are not dropping the QB too far back from the line of scrimmage. The 7-10 yard rule still applies to Roll Out plays. Please do not abuse the Roll Out. Mobile QBs are a part of the game, but do not call pass plays with the sole intention of taking advantage of defensive AI flaws, this is acceptable once or twice a game, but there are designed QB run plays for a reason. Excessive use of this as a type of offense is strictly prohibited.

NO HUDDLE -- You MUST huddle on any play where the result is the clock stopping (i.e. Incomplete Pass, Out of Bounds etc…) No-huddle offenses are not to be used as a main form of offense. You can use a no-huddle play to catch your opponent off guard once or twice a game, unless the clock is inside 2 minutes at the end of the half or game. No-huddle can also be used by a team trailing late in the 4th quarter. We could set specific guidelines, but PLEASE just use good judgment.

4TH DOWN -- Because the game favors offense to defense it is much easier to achieve success on 4th down in the game as opposed to in real life. For this reason we restrict 4th down to realistic situations. Anywhere from your opponent’s 30-39 yard line is acceptable. 4th and one or less from your OWN 40 to your opponents goal line is acceptable. 4th down from the 5 and inside is acceptable. A 4th down hailmary at the end of the half is also acceptable. If you are leading by more than 14 points you must kick or punt the ball. If you are trailing by 28 or more at any time you can run no-huddle (except on dead balls) as well as trailing late in the 4th. Fakes are allowed within reason. Use good judgement. 4th and 13 from your own 35 in the 1st half is NOT acceptable to go for it or to fake.

SUBSTITUTIONS --
Allow up to 5 minutes for pre-game substitutions. Again, you will receive a rating after the game. Great sportsmanship starts with patience. Please though, limit the amount of substitution you must do in games. We would like to think everyone here is mature and we dont have to put a set number on number of pauses.

AUDIBLES -- Do not abuse audibles. 1 audible per play is sufficient. Excessive audibles are not allowed. Also you must wait until your opponent’s team is set before snapping the ball. Hot-Routes are acceptable. Due to the limited amount of plays that keep running back in to block, please be aware of opponents frequently hot routing their hbs to block. Those fall under the acceptable ruling and should be treated with patience.

GOAL LINE -- Goal Line Formation is for Goal Line (inside YOUR OWN or YOUR OPPONENT’s 10 yard line) and for SHORT YARDAGE (3rd/4th down and 3 or less) ONLY.

CLOCK MANAGEMENT -- It is acceptable to wind the playclock down to :01 inside of 2 minutes left in the game. Otherwise please be courteous to your opponent and choose your plays in a relatively "timely" manner.


C. Defense

It is best for all parties to just remember that we’re looking for realistic gameplay in our league. Because “realism” is debateable there is a bit of room for dispute, but if your opponent is doing something questionable it is best to pause the game and discuss the situation with your opponent IN A CIVIL MANNER. We are all adults here, and we expect you to act like one.

MOVEMENT --

You may ONLY MANUALLY move ONE PLAYER; THAT ONE MUST BE PLAYER YOU ARE CONTROLLING (LB or DB) before the snap. All shifts are allowed but the man you control in the back 7 is the only one who can be manually moved. DO NOT MOVE YOUR PLAYER OUT OF THE REASONABLE REALM OF THEIR SPACE. Absolutely DO NOT move players to take advantage of AI flaws.

Defensive Line: the defensive line is to ONLY be moved within the AUTOMATIC SHIFTS provided in the game NO MANUAL MOVEMENT of D-line. You are not allowed to move any DL-man, either laterally or vertically, manually before the snap. After the snap feel free to move him back into coverage.

Linebackers: A linebacker can be shifted within reason manually. They CANNOT be moved toward the line of scrimmage or stacked ontop of a DE to take advantage of AI flaws. They cannot be moved inside a DLmen’s outermost point. REMEMBER: You can only manually shift 1 player on defense.

Defensive Backs: A safety can be shifted within reason manually. They CANNOT be moved inside of the normal linebacker positioning to the line of scrimmage. REMEMBER: You can only manually shift 1 player on defense.

AUDIBLING -- Audibling "down" from a Dime to a 44 (for instance) to take advantage of matchup changes is not acceptable as a form of defense. This can happen once or twice "accidentally" or getting "caught with your pants down" in a game, but basing your defense on this strategy is unacceptable.

GOAL LINE -- Goal Line Formation is for Goal Line (inside YOUR OWN or YOUR OPPONENT’s 10 yard line) and for SHORT YARDAGE (3rd/4th down and 3 or less) ONLY.

BUMP AND RUN/END RUSH

This type of defense, if you are a decent player and have fairly even teams, is easily battled against. It is allowed BUT DO NOT use these two methods as your ONLY form of defense or your main gameplan. They can be used occasionally, not A LOT or even the majority of the time. AGAIN, I cannot stress enough how IMPORTANT it is to vary your game type. If you feel your opponent is ABUSING this, pause the game and discuss the situation LIKE ADULTS, and attempt to work out a solution. Even if I know how to beat this type of gameplay does not mean I want to run the same type of plays all game to battle you, because you are unimaginative. If you are found to be over the course of a few games abusing this type of play then you will most likely be removed.

7/11/2008 5:54:47 PM

D. Punting/Punt Blocking

When punting you may motion a gunner but he must come set before the ball is snapped.
When blocking a punt you MUST BE IN PUNT BLOCK FORMATION. You may not manually move any player except the punt returner before the snap. You CANNOT drop a player back into punt coverage BEFORE the snap. You also CANNOT manually shift ANY player (other than the punt returner) before the snap. Automatic shifts provided in the game are allowed.


E. Mercy Rule and Sportsmanship

Do not win by a margin greater than 35. With the difference in talent of teams and coaches, there is ABSOLUTELY NO REASON why you would need to roll up a win over your opponent. The coaches in this league who control “lesser” teams are the BACKBONE of the league and should not be made to suffer horrible defeats so guys can prove whatever it is they prove with a 50 point win. THIS IS THE EPITOMY OF BAD SPORTSMANSHIP and will be dealt with quickly and severely.
** I don't want to, and shouldnt have to tell you to try not to score. But if you need someone to tell you, then consider this me telling you.

If you are shown to be rolling up STATS for individual awards… think again. We WILL NOT reward bad-sportsmanship with ANY type of award, other than the C-YA Later Award (league removal). This awards are intended to be fun and should be motivation for you to compromise good sportsmanship. If it is a league problem (which It will NOT be) we will remove them entirely along with the abusing owners. We are ALL adults here. We FULLY expect you to act like it.

As the game is supposed to be "fun" please be respectful of your opponent and choose your plays in a timely manner. Inside 2 minutes you can run the clock down to finish out.

F. Miscellaneous

There is sure to be other various situations that arise. Remember these KEY things… its only a video game, its not life and death. If you feel that you need to bend the rules, or maximize any crack, nook or corner of the rules to get ahead to win, this league is NOT FOR YOU. This league is intended for guys who love this video game, like we do, to get together, HAVE FUN and just enjoy it. Be a good sportsman. Play within the spirit of the league and its rules.

Any owner who has two games in a row simulated, will be excused from the league and replaced immediately. This is to prevent inactive users from keeping teams from people who are on the waitlist. Please take note, as no warning will be issued once your second game is simulated, you will just be replaced.
ANY COACH WHO DOES NOT FINISH OUT THEIR ENTIRE SCHEDULE WILL NOT BE INVITED BACK FOR THE FOLLOWING SEASON.

DISCONNECTS
If a disconnect occurs (stupid EA) ... then the two coaches will get together and work out the best solution. If there is 3 minutes left and the score is tied, then they'll play 1 3 minute quarter etc... The rule is to best replicate the situation as it was before the disconnect. Obviously if there is a disconnect right after kickoff or early in a scoreless game, the two coaches can agree to just start over from the beginning. Basically I want the two coaches to talk it over and come up with the most equitable solution, which basically involved attempting to replicate the situation before the D/C.

IV. DISPUTE RESOLUTION

The ABSOLUTE WORST part about running a league is this facet. If this were a perfect world everyone would play “straight” and there wouldn’t be any problems. This isn’t a perfect world. And although I’d love to think this will be the perfect league, there will be problems. Take your complaint to the commish or the assisstant to the commish. We will discuss your situation and determine whether the infraction warrants a warning, a replay or in certain situations removal of a coach. We will act quickly and attempt to get both sides of the story. ONE THING YOU SHOULD KNOW: we cannot be there to watch your games. We will have to take the information given to us and make a decision off of that. Some people do not feel this is fair, but it is the ONLY way to monitor you. Don’t make us have to be babysitters. We are ALL adults.

If you feel your opponent is “cheating” the first step you should take is PAUSE THE GAME AND TELL YOUR OPPONENT WHAT HE IS DOING WRONG. You will then discuss the decision LIKE MEN. If I find out that you guys are talking sh!t over AIM and AIM you will be removed. Discuss it like men and come to a resolution.

If you are playing someone who DOES not have a router, or you do not see them on aim within 2 minutes, go back and FINISH THE GAME.

If you are having a problem with a coaches actions, Save the plays in question...(or at least 5 of them), then you can submit them to your conference commish for review.

Again: DO NOT QUIT THE GAME. Even if your opponent is the biggest cheater in the book you MUST FINISH THE GAME.

DO NOT COUNTER A CHEATER WITH CHEATING. You cannot make a case for yourself after the game if you decide to battle cheating with cheating. Finish the game. File a complaint. And let me take care of the situation. That’s what I'm here for.

Remember: DO NOT file a complaint against another owner in a public forum (message boards, scouting reports, whatever). If you do, you will be disciplined also. We want to handle things professionally and as adults.

As always... if you have a problem, question, concern or any issue with a rule, hit me up on AIM or in a PM and I will gladly discuss the situation with you.

7/11/2008 5:55:08 PM

Rules seem reasonable and straight forward. And if there's an abundance of disconnects by a person, they may want to unhook the router and plug straight in. This reduces the probability of hardware-related disconnects on your end and helps some with the lag.

[Edited on July 11, 2008 at 6:11 PM. Reason : ]

7/11/2008 6:11:25 PM

Rules look great to me.

7/11/2008 6:41:03 PM

Got bored so here's the ACC Conference Schedule(also if you post your xbox live gamertag next to your name, I'll update the schedule)

Atlantic Division
Boston College - TreeTwista10
Florida State - HaLo
NC State - stixman
Clemson - dgspencer
Wake Forest - scooterncst8
Maryland - NyM410

Coastal Division
Georgia Tech - Apocalypse
Duke - Slave Famous (Commissioner)
UNC - wolfpack2105
Virginia Tech - Jaybee1200
Miami - guitarguy
Virginia - pttyndal- ncsuftw



Week 1

Week 2
Georgia Tech(Apocalypse) at Boston College(TreeTwista10)

Week 3
NC State(stixman) at Clemson(dgspencer)
Georgia Tech(Apocalypse) at Virginia Tech(Jaybee1200)

Week 4
Wake Forest(scooterncst8) at Florida State(HaLo)
Virginia Tech(Jaybee1200) at North Carolina(wolfpack2105)

Week 5
Maryland(NyM410) at Clemson(dgspencer)
Virginia(pttyndal) at Duke(Slave Famous)
North Carolina(wolfpack2105)at Miami(guitarguy)

Week 6
Boston College(TreeTwista10) at NC State(stixman)
Duke(Slave Famous) at Georgia Tech(Apocalypse)
Florida State(HaLo) at Miami(guitarguy)
Maryland(NyM410) at Virginia(pttyndal)

Week 7
Clemson(dgspencer) at Wake Forest(scooterncst8)

Week 8
Florida State(HaLo) at NC State(stixman)
Virginia Tech(Jaybee1200) at Boston College(TreeTwista10)
Georgia Tech(Apocalypse) at Clemson(dgspencer)
Miami(guitarguy) at Duke(Slave Famous)
Wake Forest(scooterncst8) at Maryland(NyM410)
North Carolina(wolfpack2105)at Virginia(pttyndal)

Week 9
Boston College(TreeTwista10) at North Carolina(wolfpack2105)
Virginia Tech(Jaybee1200) at Florida State(HaLo)
Virginia(pttyndal) at Georgia Tech(Apocalypse)
NC State(stixman) at Maryland(NyM410)
Wake Forest(scooterncst8) at Miami(guitarguy)

Week 10
Clemson(dgspencer) at Boston College(TreeTwista10)
Duke(Slave Famous) at Wake Forest(scooterncst8)
Florida State(HaLo) at Georgia Tech(Apocalypse)
Miami(guitarguy) at Virginia(pttyndal)

Week 11
Maryland(NyM410) at Virginia Tech(Jaybee1200)
Clemson(dgspencer) at Florida State(HaLo)
NC State(stixman) at Duke(Slave Famous)
Georgia Tech(Apocalypse) at North Carolina(wolfpack2105)
Virginia(pttyndal) at Wake Forest(scooterncst8)

Week 12
Virginia Tech(Jaybee1200) at Miami(guitarguy)
Boston College(TreeTwista10) at Florida State(HaLo)
Duke(Slave Famous) at Clemson(dgspencer)
North Carolina(wolfpack2105)at Maryland(NyM410)
Wake Forest(scooterncst8) at NC State(stixman)

Week 13
Miami(guitarguy) at Georgia Tech(Apocalypse)
Boston College(TreeTwista10) at Wake Forest(scooterncst8)
Clemson(dgspencer) at Virginia(pttyndal)
Duke(Slave Famous) at Virginia Tech(Jaybee1200)
Florida State(HaLo) at Maryland(NyM410)
NC State(stixman) at North Carolina(wolfpack2105)

Week 14
Maryland(NyM410) at Boston College(TreeTwista10)
North Carolina(wolfpack2105)at Duke(Slave Famous)
Miami(guitarguy) at NC State(stixman)
Virginia(pttyndal) at Virginia Tech(Jaybee1200)


Week 15
ACC Championship Game


[Edited on July 11, 2008 at 6:54 PM. Reason : yeah. get it over quicker. I based it on what was listed on the acc website]

7/11/2008 6:48:15 PM

I'm thinking we do 2 "game weeks" for every one week of real time

One week will be Mon-Thurs...people are busy but should be able to get one game in on weeknight

Then the second week is Fri-Sun...people shouldn't have a problem playing one league game per weekend

[Edited on July 11, 2008 at 6:51 PM. Reason : x]

7/11/2008 6:50:31 PM

yeah, I was thinking along the same lines, 3-4 days of real time for each week in the game... there might be some times when it takes 5-6 days if someone is busy at work, vacation etc. but there might be times when we do a week in 1 or 2 days so things should even out.

7/11/2008 7:15:02 PM

haha. just looked at UVA's non-conference schedule.
Week 1 v. Top 5 USC

That's some nc state shit.

Quote :

"Virginia(pttyndal) Week 1 Southern California Week 2 Richmond Week 3 at Connecticut Week 4 (Bye) Week 5 at Duke(Slave Famous) Week 6 Maryland(NyM410) Week 7 East Carolina Week 8 North Carolina(wolfpack2105) Week 9 at Georgia Tech(Apocalypse) Week 10 Miami(guitarguy) Week 11 at Wake Forest(scooterncst8) Week 12 (Bye) Week 13 Nov. 22 Clemson(dgspencer) Week 14 Nov. 29 at Virginia Tech(Jaybee1200) "

[Edited on July 11, 2008 at 7:56 PM. Reason : ]

7/11/2008 7:28:10 PM

more like:

Week 7 East Carolina (tracer)

7/11/2008 8:16:17 PM

Has the commish approved the addition?

7/11/2008 8:35:38 PM

god week 13 is gonna be hard on me

7/11/2008 8:39:03 PM

I think the max allowable teams is 12

not sure tho

7/11/2008 9:06:07 PM

yeah, 12 is the max. forgot about that.

^^ haha. I'd probably lose on purpose.

[Edited on July 11, 2008 at 9:23 PM. Reason : ]

7/11/2008 9:22:31 PM

i'm my own league. i guess i'll have to wait a hundred years or so for some interleague play.

7/11/2008 9:23:53 PM

ha, apparently FSU(W. Carolina & UT Chattanooga) and GT(Jacksonville State & Gardner-Webb) have two FCS(div 1-AA) teams on their schedules. wtf.

7/11/2008 9:51:44 PM

rules sound fine with me. looks like I'll be playing with FSU, might have to play with crowd noises off when at home.

conference games start 7/20?? that should give everyone some time to practice/get kinks worked out.

also, we need to post our live IDs in here so everyone can be added to friends lists.

oh yeah, will preseason schedule changes be allowed?


Xbox Live ID's
HaLo = stokedgecko

[Edited on July 11, 2008 at 10:07 PM. Reason : c]

7/11/2008 10:06:11 PM

The commissioner is the only one who can adjust the team schedules afaik.

Xbox Live ID's
HaLo = stokedgecko
pttyndal = ncsuftw


[Edited on July 11, 2008 at 10:17 PM. Reason : ]

7/11/2008 10:16:29 PM

i know the commissioner is the only one who can. sorry, I meant to ask can we request schedule changes to improve our SOS. maybe only for year 2 schedules?

7/11/2008 10:21:59 PM

Xbox Live ID's
HaLo = stokedgecko
pttyndal = ncsuftw
scooterncst8 = scooterncst8

7/11/2008 10:42:54 PM

not sure. I'd probably leave them as is to make it more realistic.

Original Team Schedules

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"Boston College(TreeTwista10) Week 1 at Kent State Week 2 Georgia Tech(Apocalypse) Week 3 (BYE) Week 4 UCF Week 5 FCS Team Week 6 at NC State(stixman) Week 7 (BYE) Week 8 Virginia Tech(Jaybee1200) Week 9 at North Carolina(wolfpack2105) Week 10 Clemson(dgspencer) Week 11 Notre Dame Week 12 at Florida State(HaLo) Week 13 at Wake Forest(scooterncst8) Week 14 Maryland(NyM410) Clemson(dgspencer) Week 1 Alabama (Georgia Dome) Week 2 FCS Team Week 3 NC State(stixman) Week 4 SC State Week 5 Maryland(NyM410) Week 6 (BYE) Week 7 at Wake Forest(scooterncst8) Week 8 Georgia Tech(Apocalypse) Week 9 (BYE) Week 10 at Boston College(TreeTwista10) Week 11 at Florida State(HaLo) Week 12 Duke(Slave Famous) Week 13 at Virginia(pttyndal) Week 14 South Carolina Duke(Slave Famous) Week 1 FCS Team Week 2 Northwestern Week 3 Navy Week 5 Virginia(pttyndal) Week 6 at Georgia Tech(Apocalypse) Week 7 (BYE) Week 8 Miami(guitarguy) Week 9 at Vanderbilt Week 10 at Wake Forest(scooterncst8) Week 11 NC State(stixman) Week 12 at Clemson(dgspencer) Week 13 at Virginia Tech(Jaybee1200) Week 14 North Carolina(wolfpack2105) Florida State(HaLo) Week 1 (BYE) Week 2 FCS Team Week 3 FCS Team Week 4 Wake Forest(scooterncst8) Week 5 Colorado Week 6 at Miami(guitarguy) Week 7 (BYE) Week 8 at NC State(stixman) Week 9 Virginia Tech(Jaybee1200) Week 10 at Georgia Tech(Apocalypse) Week 11 Clemson(dgspencer) Week 12 Boston College(TreeTwista10) Week 13 at Maryland(NyM410) Week 14 Florida Georgia Tech(Apocalypse) Week 1 FCS Team Week 2 at Boston College(TreeTwista10) Week 3 at Virginia Tech(Jaybee1200) Week 4 Mississippi State Week 5 (BYE) Week 6 Duke(Slave Famous) Week 7 FCS Team Week 8 at Clemson(dgspencer) Week 9 Virginia(pttyndal) Week 10 Florida State(HaLo) Week 11 at North Carolina(wolfpack2105) Week 12 (BYE) Week 13 Miami(guitarguy) Week 14 at Georgia Maryland(NyM410) Week 1 FCS Team Week 2 at Middle Tennessee State Week 3 California Week 4 Eastern Michigan Week 5 at Clemson(dgspencer) Week 6 at Virginia(pttyndal) Week 7 (BYE) Week 8 Wake Forest(scooterncst8) Week 9 NC State(stixman) Week 10 (BYE) Week 11 at Virginia Tech(Jaybee1200) Week 12 North Carolina(wolfpack2105) Week 13 Florida State(HaLo) Week 14 at Boston College(TreeTwista10) Miami(guitarguy) Week 1 FCS Team Week 2 at Florida Week 3 (BYE) Week 4 at Texas A&M Week 5 North Carolina(wolfpack2105) Week 6 Florida State(HaLo) Week 7 UCF Week 8 at Duke(Slave Famous) Week 9 Wake Forest(scooterncst8) Week 10 at Virginia(pttyndal) Week 11 (BYE) Week 12 Virginia Tech(Jaybee1200) Week 13 at Georgia Tech(Apocalypse) Week 14 at NC State(stixman) North Carolina(wolfpack2105) Week 1 FCS Team Week 2 (BYE) Week 3 at Rutgers Week 4 Virginia Tech(Jaybee1200) Week 5 at Miami(guitarguy) Week 6 Connecticut Week 7 Notre Dame Week 8 at Virginia(pttyndal) Week 9 Boston College(TreeTwista10) Week 10 (BYE) Week 11 Georgia Tech(Apocalypse) Week 12 at Maryland(NyM410) Week 13 NC State(stixman) Week 14 at Duke(Slave Famous) NC State(stixman) Week 1 at South Carolina Week 2 FCS Team Week 3 at Clemson(dgspencer) Week 4 East Carolina Week 5 South Florida Week 6 Boston College(TreeTwista10) Week 7 (BYE) Week 8 Florida State(HaLo) Week 9 at Maryland(NyM410) Week 10 (BYE) Week 11 at Duke(Slave Famous) Week 12 Wake Forest(scooterncst8) Week 13 at North Carolina(wolfpack2105) Week 14 Miami(guitarguy) Virginia(pttyndal) Week 1 Southern California Week 2 FCS Team Week 3 at Connecticut Week 4 (BYE) Week 5 at Duke(Slave Famous) Week 6 Maryland(NyM410) Week 7 East Carolina Week 8 North Carolina(wolfpack2105) Week 9 at Georgia Tech(Apocalypse) Week 10 Miami(guitarguy) Week 11 at Wake Forest(scooterncst8) Week 12 (BYE) Week 13 Clemson(dgspencer) Week 14 at Virginia Tech(Jaybee1200) Virginia Tech(Jaybee1200) Week 1 East Carolina Week 2 FCS Team Week 3 Georgia Tech(Apocalypse) Week 4 at North Carolina(wolfpack2105) Week 5 at Nebraska Week 6 Western Kentucky Week 7 (BYE) Week 8 at Boston College(TreeTwista10) Week 9 at Florida State(HaLo) Week 10 (BYE) Week 11 Maryland(NyM410) Week 12 at Miami(guitarguy) Week 13 Duke(Slave Famous) Week 14 Virginia(pttyndal) Wake Forest(scooterncst8) Week 1 at Baylor Week 2 Mississippi Week 3 (BYE) Week 4 at Florida State(HaLo) Week 5 Navy Week 6 (BYE) Week 7 Clemson(dgspencer) Week 8 at Maryland(NyM410) Week 9 at Miami(guitarguy) Week 10 Duke(Slave Famous) Week 11 Virginia(pttyndal) Week 12 at NC State(stixman) Week 13 Boston College(TreeTwista10) Week 14 Vanderbilt "

[Edited on July 11, 2008 at 10:48 PM. Reason : ]

7/11/2008 10:47:23 PM

definitely keep the actual schedules and I would like to just keep it to ACC schools... if you have too many teams/players it will get diluted, too hard to keep track. I am sure there are plenty enough people on here who didnt get in and can form their own leagues

[Edited on July 12, 2008 at 12:01 AM. Reason : d]

7/11/2008 11:51:08 PM

Xbox Live ID's
HaLo = stokedgecko
pttyndal = ncsuftw
scooterncst8 = scooterncst8
wolfpack2105 = BigCountry2117

[Edited on July 12, 2008 at 10:54 AM. Reason : damn code]

7/12/2008 10:53:50 AM

I am really looking forward to this league with you all.

Pretty surprised to end up with NC State, but I think the team will rank right along with where I rank in playing skill with you guys. If you see me not following the rules, know that I am not doing it on purpose, I probably just forgot that it was one.

Xbox Live ID's
HaLo = stokedgecko
pttyndal = ncsuftw
scooterncst8 = scooterncst8
wolfpack2105 = BigCountry2117
stixman = Freeloader007

I already have the game paid off, so I will be getting it on Tuesday.

Oh, and starting the conference schedule with Clemson, BC, and FSU will suck...

[Edited on July 12, 2008 at 10:59 AM. Reason : list/conf]

7/12/2008 10:57:10 AM

I would love it if they could implement rules like yours into online play for everyone.....

7/12/2008 11:07:45 AM

^ thats why my DNF % is so horrible on there... If its the first quarter, and they have the ball on their own 20, and its 4th down, and they dont line up to punt I will take a timeout... if they do it again, I take another timeout, if they do it again, I take another one, if they do it AGAIN then I offer a friendly quit no matter what the score is, if they deny that then I quit and tell them what a little bitch they are.

7/12/2008 2:06:07 PM

my xboxlive id and my aim is: nym410

big surprise...

[Edited on July 12, 2008 at 3:10 PM. Reason : i dont have any clue where my headset is... i hvent ever used one]

7/12/2008 3:10:15 PM

^^Yeah that is bullshit...I quit too. And people online will run the same play every single down....I rarely play football online because of said issues.

7/13/2008 2:26:44 AM

Xbox Live ID's
HaLo = stokedgecko
pttyndal = ncsuftw
scooterncst8 = scooterncst8
wolfpack2105 = BigCountry2117
stixman = Freeloader007
dgspencer=PDaaaaaveT
NyM410=nym410

7/14/2008 12:05:15 PM

Xbox Live ID's
HaLo = stokedgecko
pttyndal = ncsuftw
scooterncst8 = scooterncst8
wolfpack2105 = BigCountry2117
stixman = Freeloader007
dgspencer=PDaaaaaveT
NyM410=nym410
Slave Famous = Squadoosh







I think I'm going to set up the dynasty and send out the invites sometime tomorrow or Wednesday

Please everyone try to have your xbox name posted in here soon

Everyone will have a few days to set up their names and play all their non-conference games before we get in the the head to head ACC matchups early next week



And since we don't want one or two people holding the league back, we might have to boot you if you don't post your name in here or don't respond to any messages within the next week or so

7/14/2008 12:20:39 PM

Xbox Live ID's
HaLo = stokedgecko
pttyndal = ncsuftw
scooterncst8 = scooterncst8
wolfpack2105 = BigCountry2117
stixman = Freeloader007
dgspencer=PDaaaaaveT
NyM410=nym410
Slave Famous = Squadoosh
TreeTwista10 = Akwatic

I think we should have at least a week from when the game comes out tomorrow to fuck around in offline play and learn about the new features and controls and get reacquainted with the feel of the game

7/14/2008 12:26:25 PM

Yeah I'm just going to set it up so people can join as they want...the first head to head games won't be till sometime next week

7/14/2008 12:27:57 PM

cool cause if we had to jump right into the online dynasty tomorrow or the next day i'd be looking through my 4-3 defensive package playbook for a blue tiger camo RPD with grip and stopping power play

7/14/2008 12:29:14 PM

I don't want to rush people, but I also want to keep it going at a decent pace once we get started so people don't lose interest

As Jaybee and I had said, we'll try for about 2 conference games a week so we can do a season in a little over a month or so

7/14/2008 12:31:53 PM

does this game come out at midnight anywhere that anyone knows of?

7/14/2008 12:33:21 PM

probably at best buy and eb/gamestop whatever

I'm gonna grab it at lunch tomorrow since I'll be done with work for the week

7/14/2008 12:38:41 PM

At first I was kinda bummed about getting Duke but after researching their roster, they have some decent talent

The 21st rated RB in the game and the 46th rated WR, along with most of their starters being in the high 70's or 80's

So I shouldn't be too overmatched

7/14/2008 1:09:15 PM

Hmm...I have two OOC games before I play Clemson and then two more before BC. Going to be pushing it at times to make it week to week in the beginning of the year. I hope you guys don't boot me too quickly.

I really will be dedicated to this league though.

Also, do I need to do a write up about the team or can I just link to the Football Review thread in Sports Talk?

7/14/2008 1:19:46 PM

That was a joke to scare off the riff raff

No writeups or recaps or anything

Just complaints/suggestions/ideas to make the league better

and lots and lots of trash talk

7/14/2008 1:21:49 PM

instead of "2 conference games a week" wouldnt it make more sense to just complete two weeks of the season every real life week? ie next week we could do Week 1 and Week 2 of the season, regardless of conference or OOC...the following week we could play Week 3 and Week 4 of the season...etc...seems like that might be a little easier universally but I'm down for whatever

7/14/2008 1:25:23 PM

That can work

But the majority of non-conference games are at the start of the season

So if you're first 4 games are non-con followed by 8 acc games, you'd have to wait 3 weeks to play a real person

So I was thinking people might want to blaze thru their OOC games instead of waiting

But either way would be fine...if anyone else has an opinion either way, post it here

7/14/2008 1:32:04 PM

I prefer two weeks of the year, because I think the commish has to advance the week when everyone is ready...

[Edited on July 14, 2008 at 1:45 PM. Reason : ...]

7/14/2008 1:33:30 PM

live name: hey now 79

7/14/2008 1:38:59 PM

i'm down for almost whatever schedule wise, maybe we'll have to go ahead and create the league and then evaluate options...ie can some players advance a week before other players have completed their games that week or do we have to all wait...we'll see

7/14/2008 1:43:40 PM

yeah, dont want to rush through the OOC games too fast... the simulation of the season itself is a bigger draw for me than the actual head to head games... I want to see who loses to who, how teams handle their OOC games, recruiting etc.

7/14/2008 1:45:02 PM

alright so I guess we're looking at about 2 months for 1 season then

14 weeks plus + Conference Championship games + bowls etc.

Hopefully fools will stick around long enough to play at least 2-3 seasons

7/14/2008 1:48:36 PM

I think they will... most people I know play it pretty regularly up until the end of the football season at least

7/14/2008 1:50:39 PM

i figure most of us in this league would be playing our own offline dynasties if we werent doing this, so unless the game itself really blows i'm sure i'd be down for a couple seasons...this season should be done around mid September give or take

7/14/2008 1:50:47 PM

yup, only reason I would lose interest is if people start playing like fucking morons

7/14/2008 1:52:22 PM

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[Edited on July 14, 2008 at 1:53 PM. Reason : x]

7/14/2008 1:53:21 PM