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SkankinMonky
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Everywhere I've read stuff about says to never smack a puppy. Trauma or something.

7/23/2008 3:47:32 PM

ScHpEnXeL
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use something besides your hand.. newspaper or something. and i'm not saying beat the hell out of it or anything.

7/23/2008 3:48:44 PM

djeternal
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i have hit every dog I have ever owned, and they all turned out ok. but there is a difference between a pop on the ass and beating the shit out of your dog.

at the end of the day, they are still animals.

7/23/2008 3:49:44 PM

seedless
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well they say that becasue people tend to smack a puppy AFTER the fact, but if you smack them during an act they will soon associate a smack with an action. all training is is just an association and/or complimentation (maybe not a real word but you get it) of one action with another.

7/23/2008 3:49:55 PM

ThePeter
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balls

you need them

however, you can also submit the dog (face plant to the floor) and they'll get the message or similar "you are my bitch" methods. one technique my mom uses sometimes is to use her nails and grab the dog's neck, akin to a mother dog biting the back of the neck to pick up a puppy. works like a charm because the dog will stop in their tracks, but works a lot better if you have girl nails, obviously.

However, if you cannot discipline your dog, it will rule the house. Whoever writes the stuff about "don't hit your dogs" is a peta loving faggot who is ruled by their dog.

7/23/2008 3:54:04 PM

seedless
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thats true. animals will run your lifestyle if you let them. my cats used to tear up my blinds. but not anymore. i got tricks!

7/23/2008 3:55:26 PM

djeternal
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he might not hit a dog, but I have sure as hell seen him choke the shit out of a few

7/23/2008 3:57:27 PM

Fareako
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I beat my animals.

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7/23/2008 3:57:47 PM

SkankinMonky
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"balls

you need them"


I have no problem hitting the dog if it's actually alright, but when you read this shit on the internet it makes you think twice - and no one wants to treat their animal incorrectly and traumatize them. He gets a minor ass-crack from today forward.

7/23/2008 3:57:49 PM

mdozer73
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picking up a puppy by the scruff at the neck is how a bitch would punish her puppies if they were doing something wrong.

I have used this as punishment to remove a puppy from something they shouldn't be doing, but as it has been said before, you have to catch them in the act

7/23/2008 3:58:04 PM

ThePeter
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^^^Yeah, I've seen quite a few episodes where he submits the dog with a face plant

7/23/2008 3:59:31 PM

seedless
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i have seen LOTS of dogs of all sorts of breeds, and i have never seen a traumatized dog from corporal punishment. obviously if you beat a dog daily multiple times for no damn reason sure it will be scared shitless of you and show signs of abuse.

7/23/2008 4:02:16 PM

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i got a 6 month old puppy about a year ago like part beagle mix or something and she used to HATE the crate. no matter how cute, whiny, loud, and/or obnoxious they are, leave them in there if its time for them to be in there. its real hard at times, trying to do shit but usually the only time shes in there is when im not there cause she has a tendency to fuck my apartment up. now, she knows my routine in the morning, and when i let her inside she goes straight to her crate, without me saying a word. ultimately, its up to you to set boundaries in your own place, and to let her know whats right and wrong.

she still has a thing with chewing on peoples hands but has gotten a lot better since ive started sternly saying NO! and telling her to get her toy or ignoring her.. she gets the idea now

replacing a chew toy with someones fingers is definitely a good thing, but i dont think the treat is necessary as long as you praise and pet her right after she drops them so she knows its good to eat toys, not fingers.

whatever you do, keep it consistent... thats one of the many things that messes with their head if youre not consistent in rewarding her/scolding her and whatnot and causes confusion

also, positive reinforcement is a real big thing with young animals, even humans. i have a friend that has a white lab and when he gives her a command and she follows, he doesnt really praise her, which in turn i think she doesnt really acknowledge or respect him because they think its like yea? well i did what you told me to do but i dont get anything out of it! i always make sure my pup knows shes a good girl or a bad girl, and i think she respects me because of it.

sorry for the long post, i hope it helps

7/23/2008 4:04:46 PM

seedless
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"whatever you do, keep it consistent... thats one of the many things that messes with their head if youre not consistent in rewarding her/scolding her and whatnot and causes confusion"


another piece of good advice

7/23/2008 4:06:43 PM

damose
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Quote :
"another piece of good piece of advice"



durr

[Edited on July 23, 2008 at 4:13 PM. Reason : ]

7/23/2008 4:12:16 PM

djeternal
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GRAMMAR NINJA CORRECTS YOUR POST!!!

7/23/2008 4:13:19 PM

ThePeter
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"also, positive reinforcement is a real big thing with young animals, even humans. i have a friend that has a white lab and when he gives her a command and she follows, he doesnt really praise her, which in turn i think she doesnt really acknowledge or respect him because they think its like yea? well i did what you told me to do but i dont get anything out of it! i always make sure my pup knows shes a good girl or a bad girl, and i think she respects me because of it."


Too much positive reinforcement can be bad though...I saw that somewhere but don't know much more about it. The dog should know their place in the home, and giving too much attention to them can lead to certain bad traits.

7/23/2008 4:25:46 PM

damose
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^ well yea i suppose theres a point at which its over the top, but usually, it is the best training technique if you dont overdo it and succumb to your dogs dog mind tricks

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"Too much positive reinforcement can be bad though...I saw that somewhere but don't know much more about it"


care to research and post back? im actually interested to learn more

7/23/2008 4:28:49 PM

icanread2
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a good smack across the face while she is doing whatever it is that i dont want her to do has been working great for my new pup

she is 11 wks old and has already mastered the following commands:
sit
stay
down (to lay down)
kennel
car (when we are going somewhere)
calm
let's go (i have purposely avoided using "come" as a command)

she is working on the following commands:
hurry up (when going to bathroom)
get it (teaching to retrieve)
woah (heal, slow down, etc)

7/23/2008 6:36:20 PM

Kurtis636
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I don't know, my dog is Labrador Retriever, so it came pretty much perfectly behaved already.

7/23/2008 6:39:36 PM

seedless
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in general labs can be the devil if you don't work with them as puppies intensively

7/23/2008 6:55:12 PM

ScHpEnXeL
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yea they can have a shit ton of energy.. they need to do what they were bred to do or you're much more likely to have problems at some point.

7/23/2008 6:56:05 PM

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Crated her last night. We "practiced" for awhile downstairs getting her comfortable with it. Shutting the door for minutes at the time while we talked to her and petted her. She ended up napping for about 10 minutes or so with the door open while we decompressed with some TV. Took her upstairs (crate too) to our bedroom, let her go in and out on her own some more to get comfortable with it. She finally went in and was dozing off to sleep. So we told her night and shut he door. She whined for about 10 minutes and then I guess she dozed off for awhile. I had assumed it would take 30 minutes for her to chill out, so I was pleased when she was done whining after 10.

7/24/2008 11:57:19 AM

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I'm surprised anyone is even willing to help you as much as a jerkoff as you are

7/24/2008 11:58:51 AM

TroleTacks
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Is it possible to get a puppy to 'walk' properly at 3 months old? We go on walks and she is in full puppy mode wanting to explore everything everywhere. We can get her to stop and sit pretty easily. We are starting to get where we can get her to sit when neighbors are walking by, but as far as getting her to slow down and walk at our pace, we haven't had too much luck yet.

Tips?

8/7/2008 6:58:25 PM

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