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"if we'd played app later that season even, they would have trounced us."

too bad they couldnt trounce Wofford last year

i mean App is a great 1-AA team, but people need to keep things in perspective when assuming they'd wreck shop over all types of 1-A competition

[Edited on July 30, 2008 at 5:15 PM. Reason : .]

7/30/2008 5:12:46 PM

they lost by a field goal late in the fourth quarter. it's worth mentioning that edwards was out with a shoulder injury for that game.

7/30/2008 5:14:50 PM

^he was out for "most of the 2nd half" of that game

he rushed for a TD in the 2nd quarter

he finished 11/18 with 103 yards and an interception http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=272652747

[Edited on July 30, 2008 at 5:21 PM. Reason : .]

7/30/2008 5:19:39 PM

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"f we'd played app later that season even, they would have trounced us"

that gets a big

even if your statement is true, it is just saying their coaching staff is too shitty to get the team ready and pick the right personnel at the beginning of the season


besides, is armanti edwards going to play D too, i think we racked up over 200 yds rushing in that game. and armanti played in our game.

7/30/2008 5:42:56 PM

1) Armanti Edwards did not play a snap against NCSU

2) Armanti was injured against Wofford

3) ASU has 3 national championships

Some of you are just haters.

7/30/2008 5:54:59 PM

i have fond memories of the app st QB puking behind center pretty much right in front of the student section

7/30/2008 5:58:53 PM

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"If you watched the championship game those guys pretty much won it themselves (including scoring the winning points IIRC)."

i didn't, b/c it's d1aa.

^^ 1aa national championships. it's different.

[Edited on July 30, 2008 at 5:59 PM. Reason : .]

7/30/2008 5:59:07 PM

Point is they are the best at what they are....we don't play them....so why does it matter?

Also Furman beat UNC one year and gives them a run every time they play. ASU can beat UNC....trust me.

7/30/2008 6:01:22 PM

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"ASU has 3 'national championships'"

7/30/2008 6:08:42 PM

honestly does app have half of the hype if the field goal at the end of the game is converted and michigan avoids a scare?

no

7/30/2008 6:10:00 PM

yall remember when South Carolina won back to back college basketball national championships just a few years ago?

7/30/2008 6:14:48 PM

Ahh yes TreeTwista10 in here hating on ASU....what a surprise.

The difference in that is that ASU is winning the top championship in their division not some minor tournament. What they are doing in Boone is unreal and why you all hate I will never know.

7/30/2008 6:16:41 PM

^ you just have to take it for what it is, mang.

7/30/2008 6:18:05 PM

What them being the best in their league?

That is like saying the Charlotte Knights are terrible if they win the AAA World Series this year.

7/30/2008 6:20:33 PM

^^^i dont really hate on App much until a bunch of people with huge imaginations start implying they could compete week in and week out with D1-A programs...and yes I realize that they have been winning the title the last few years (with a playoff system, holy shit, can D1-A catch up?), and in FCS, thats all you can play for...but when App fans say "we're the best team in North Carolina, UNC and Wake and State are all scared to play us" I attempt to get them to regain a logical perspective

^no its like saying "The Knights would've worked the KC Royals if they played them later in the season"

i'd love to see App and Duke play or App and ECU...I think those games could be very good

[Edited on July 30, 2008 at 6:27 PM. Reason : .]

7/30/2008 6:21:34 PM

exactly, no one is knocking the fact that asu is a great D1AA school, but to say that they'll compete consistently with D1 programs is silly. Not at least until they beef up their recruiting.

7/30/2008 6:28:42 PM

IIRC, Edwards was hurt when we played and beat App. I'll go out on a limb, because I'm a State fan and it's just what we do, and say that honestly I'm not that afraid of them. Personally I think it'd be a good game, but there's no way to really know. We've been pretty rough the last few years; fortunately each year is new.

As for the topic, is there really a particular reason Moore wants to play UNC, or does he just enjoy watching UNC get beat as much as I and many, many others do?

FWIW, I like App and have quite a few friends there including one that's gonna be about a 3rd string rookie up there this fall. I just have a lot of faith in the wolves

[Edited on July 30, 2008 at 6:36 PM. Reason : ]

7/30/2008 6:34:55 PM

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"even if your statement is true, it is just saying their coaching staff is too shitty to get the team ready and pick the right personnel at the beginning of the season"

So I guess you are saying that our coaching staff is shitty??? We couldn't figure out who our QB should at week 5 or 6. I'd like to think that TOB is a pretty good coach.

I guess Frank Beamer is also a shitty coach at VT since he didn't go with the dual QB system until later in the year?

7/30/2008 6:54:56 PM

^^ Edwards didn't play because he was a freshman and he hadn't earned the starting spot yet.

Elder is a pretty good QB who helped lead them to the championship the previous year, they aren't going to throw him out immediately to a 160 lb noob who looks like he would be better suited as a kick return specialist.

7/30/2008 6:56:33 PM

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"That is like saying the Charlotte Knights are terrible if they win the AAA World Series this year."

would you, under any circumstances, ever argue that the charlotte knights could hang in major league baseball?

7/30/2008 9:35:47 PM

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"Rushing No Gain Loss Net TD Lg Avg -------------------------------------------- Devon Moore 7 39 4 35 0 20 5.0 K. Richardson 14 46 12 34 1 16 2.4 Trey Elder 14 51 38 13 0 19 0.9 Armanti Edwards 1 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 TEAM 1 0 15 -15 0 0 -15.0 Totals... 37 136 69 67 1 20 1.8 Passing Att-Cmp-Int Yds TD Long Sack -------------------------------------------- Trey Elder 14-4-1 58 0 39 4 Armanti Edwards 2-1-0 8 0 8 0 Totals... 16-5-1 66 0 39 4"

http://www.nmnathletics.com/fls/9200/stats/football/2006/st0902.htm

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" So I guess you are saying that our coaching staff is shitty??? We couldn't figure out who our QB should at week 5 or 6. I'd like to think that TOB is a pretty good coach. "

the point i was trying to make is that people keep saying "oh if armanti had played, they would have won" but he could have and didnt, that is nobody's fault but the opposing coaching staff.

7/30/2008 10:42:25 PM

^^its not a great analogy but its the same principle...and honestly if a pitcher is pitching lights out, it would be possible

7/31/2008 12:07:51 AM

with some luck they could hang for a game, sure.

they could never hang for a season, which is what some people here seem to be thinking about app.

7/31/2008 7:07:18 AM

winning the 1AA title is like when your HS JV team goes 11-0

its something great, but not on the same level

but they could beat UNC

7/31/2008 7:26:21 AM

Don't forget that last year App St. also lost to Georgia Southern. They had their beloved QB for the whole game, and Georgia Southern(7-4) didn't have a top tier team even for 1AA.

7/31/2008 1:55:02 PM

Why the fuck App fans come into places like this and expect to be treated as champions is beyond my comprehension.

7/31/2008 3:08:32 PM

SFN likes to call them the Mighty Midgets, which I think is entirely appropriate

7/31/2008 3:22:17 PM

^^Not a single App fan has posted in here or said anything like they could run the table in D-1A.

Again most of you are just hating and making stuff up.

^^^Ehh that's a long-standing rival, much like how we always have the better team and we can't beat UNC.

[Edited on July 31, 2008 at 6:36 PM. Reason : ...]

7/31/2008 6:35:20 PM

Even though we beat them, you're all in here acting like it wasn't a close game that we very easily could've lost.

7/31/2008 6:42:20 PM

whatever, it may not have been a blowout but it wasnt close either

they basically couldnt move the ball. only reason they got a td was b/c tony couldnt hold on to the ball.

7/31/2008 9:32:33 PM

didnt we rush for over 200 yards on them?

one nailbiter upset over an constantly overrated Big 10 school and all the sudden they think they're a big time D1-A program

YOU LOST TO A BAD NC STATE TEAM BY 2 SCORES, THERES NO EXCUSE FOR THAT

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"Again most of you are just hating"

packboozie what about your love fest? nobody is saying theyre a bad 1-aa team, most people are saying they're a good 1-aa team...but thats all they are...a 1-aa team who gets lucky and beats a decent 1-a opponent once every 5 years or so...big whoop...LSU is going to murder them

7/31/2008 9:42:52 PM

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"packboozie what about your love fest?"

No I just recognize a good program. They are the best at their level. What is wrong with that?

It's not like ASU students have came on this board and talked shit.

7/31/2008 11:56:47 PM

^ Why would they need to with you riding their cocks so hard? I guess your love of all things ASU doesn't end with your lover's 1A basketball team.

8/1/2008 12:51:22 AM

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"YOU LOST TO A BAD NC STATE TEAM BY 2 SCORES"

that post just needs to be repeated or the rest of the thread

8/1/2008 12:53:07 AM

^^Wow I most definitely am not riding their cocks....

I just like what they are doing. They are fun to watch and they are damn good. What is wrong with pulling for a local school? When Davidson was making their run in the NCAA tournament, nearly EVERYONE in NC and on this board was "riding their cocks". Jesus.

/rant.

8/1/2008 1:07:50 AM

YOU CANT SPELL AND YOU SIT DOWN TO WEE

8/1/2008 1:20:07 AM

again packboozie, i think everyone here agrees that they're the best at their level...and i know there arent really any App fans coming here talking about how great they are...but there are people who are not necessarily App fans, but who are basically very ignorant to the differences in speed and strength and size from 1-AA to 1-A ball...and since App has gone on its great title streak over the last few years, App fans have definitely come out of the woodwork and have had aspirations of being the best team in the state, and sometimes the best in the Carolinas (I think Clemson and South Carolina might disagree)...they beat Wake every now and then before Wake was any good, but other than that and the Michigan game last year, they lose most of their other 1-A matchups

and maybe its just me, but for whatever reason I was really pulling for Davidson basketball like you said, but for some reason I just can't get behind App the same way...it feels completely different

8/1/2008 1:27:28 AM

^^^ I don't think anybody is disagreeing with the fact that they are fun to watch and they are a good team; however, those two things do not mean they could compete day in and day out at this level. And for the record, I don't think you were trying to argue that anyway. I'll even agree with you that they could beat UNC. The problem is you're vehemently defending a team that isn't yours and calling people haters who aren't hating in the first place. App won 3 national championships in 1AA. Good for them. Nobody here cares. The argument is more centered around whether success at the 1AA level means they would be able to take a BCS team. The general consensus is no. For some reason you've taken issue with this. It's like somebody put down your boyfriend and you just aren't going to have it. Maybe it's because you're a closet mountandrear fan?

[Edited on August 1, 2008 at 1:28 AM. Reason : asdf]

8/1/2008 1:28:18 AM

^^maybe its cuz what Davidson was doing ACTUALLY mattered(NCAA Tourney) but what APP does, doesn't really matter in the big picture

[Edited on August 1, 2008 at 1:29 AM. Reason : ^]

8/1/2008 1:29:39 AM

you do have a point...Davidson was almost in the Final Four, not the NIT

8/1/2008 1:33:21 AM

All I said in this thread was that ASU could beat UNC....which you shouldn't argue. They could.

I NEVER said they could compete day in and out in 1-A....not now they couldn't.

8/1/2008 1:33:34 AM

fair enough...and i think everyone in here would love to see them beat unc

8/1/2008 1:34:16 AM

I wouldn't say their talent is on par with ours or other 1-A teams...but if you really watch they are not that far behind. And like some pointed out earlier they are having players drafted. There are several players on their squad that could make our 2-deep chart starting with Edwards....

[Edited on August 1, 2008 at 1:37 AM. Reason : ASU is happy with 1-AA dominance]

8/1/2008 1:36:52 AM

I think by the end of 2007, App was the 2nd best team in the state, after Wake.

Their D fell off a lot this past year, and they had some injuries, so I'd put them at the 3rd best in the state, behind Wake and us, but I still think they were better than UNC, Duke, and ECU.

And about the players and recruiting, wasn't it our own beloved coach who once said that star ratings were for restaurants?

[Edited on August 1, 2008 at 2:58 AM. Reason : ]

8/1/2008 2:58:24 AM

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"so I'd put them at the 3rd best in the state, behind Wake and us"

Lets try finishing a season with a winning record before we start saying we're better than someone else. Especially considering how each team ended last year.

8/1/2008 9:32:57 AM

i think we are allowed to say we are better than a fucking 1-aa team

8/1/2008 1:30:21 PM

^^maybe App should try playing less than 8 1-AA opponents a year before they get any legitimate recognition

8/1/2008 1:59:59 PM

Is this thread an argument over the legitimacy of a 1-AA team?

C'mon guys

8/1/2008 2:04:49 PM