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marko
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"But i also consider grunge vocals the precursor to modern whiney ass emo bullshit. "


a more apt precursor would be bands like joy division or the cure

[Edited on August 23, 2008 at 9:56 AM. Reason : +]

8/23/2008 9:55:09 AM

CalledToArms
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a more apt precursor would be the original wave of bands people referred to as "emo" and post-punk/hardcore bands of the 90s who were actually good and which is totally separate to the current wave imo

8/23/2008 9:57:09 AM

pilgrimshoes
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pfft

we'd all be lost w/o echo and the bunnymen

8/23/2008 9:57:53 AM

marko
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i have no idea how it got from fugazi to "hey there delilah"

but somehow it supposedly happened

[Edited on August 23, 2008 at 10:03 AM. Reason : i might blame the victorians]

8/23/2008 9:59:50 AM

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how can you not like Chris Cornell?




8/23/2008 10:04:13 AM

The Dude
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"mr mojo risin"

8/23/2008 10:22:57 AM

CalledToArms
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"i have no idea how it got from fugazi to "hey there delilah"

but somehow it supposedly happened"


i dont think that song fits in with anything we were talking about.

8/23/2008 10:34:48 AM

miska
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Freddie Mercury <3

and I'm going to get laughed at but Dave Grohl is one of my favorites

8/23/2008 10:41:15 AM

CalledToArms
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hey i like me some dave from back in the day

[Edited on August 23, 2008 at 10:45 AM. Reason : ]

8/23/2008 10:44:50 AM

CalledToArms
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"i have no idea how it got from fugazi to "hey there delilah"

but somehow it supposedly happened"


here I typed you up a little summary since that horrible transition (regardless of the song you chose - even though it is a terrible song haha) is actually something I am pretty familiar/disgusted with. Of course there still are bands who are heavily influenced by the old bands and who pull it off well and write some good music. But the bands who were kind of spawned through the linear influence (like im showing) are the ones I cant stand

Fugazi
portraits of past
rites of spring
jawbreaker
quicksand
embrace etc.

these bands heavily influenced/were the precursor for bands like
etc.

jets to brazil
sunny day real estate
texas is the reason
christie front drive
piebald
the promise ring
braid
mineral etc.

who heavily influenced/shared members/were the precursor for:

get up kids
saves the day
jimmy eat world
casket lottery
appleseed cast
planes mistaken for stars
hey mercedes
further seems forever
thursday
midtown
funeral diner etc.

who unfortunately started to spawn bands like this citing some of these previously mentioned bands as influence or becoming popular because they shared members with previously mentioned bands around the early 2000ish time frame:

taking back sunday
dashboard confessional
my chemical romance
brand new
others I cant remember because I distanced myself from this crap.

and from there it was all over. These bands spawned the creation of all the horrendously terrible bands you probably have in your head when you think of the term “emo” today. By the time I was in college, pretty much all of the original bands that I might have lumped into that category who were good were broken up or had fallen into obscurity, and all of the new bands carrying the label had developed ridiculously whiny vocals and were pretty much what you are complaining about today.

8/23/2008 10:50:37 AM

vinylbandit
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i'm glad i don't listen to the radio all that much

because i thought the promise ring were really whiny

and they're two levels removed from the awful shit

8/23/2008 10:53:56 AM

Demathis1
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Freddy and RP

8/23/2008 10:54:30 AM

CalledToArms
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^^ haha. well yea they were fairly "whiny" for that group of bands, most of the others werent. but yea the general comment holds true. the "emo" bands today are so ridiculous they are like bad parodies of the taking back sunday era bands who were already terrible.

8/23/2008 10:57:50 AM

marko
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i caroused through the wikipedia entry this morning after your first post on this page and saw a similar treatise on the transition, but thanks for fleshing it out

perhaps my original confusion arose from bands i was thinking this morning were "emo" are actually "indie"

it's all horsehockey labels anyhow

i listen to rock and roll

[Edited on August 23, 2008 at 1:48 PM. Reason : +]

8/23/2008 1:41:07 PM

scotieb24
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Layne Staley - Alice In Chains
Blitz - Overkill (One of my lesser known faves)

8/23/2008 1:48:24 PM

vinylbandit
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so my mention of iggy has me listening to funhouse 24/7 again

8/23/2008 1:53:40 PM

marko
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8/23/2008 1:56:13 PM

CalledToArms
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^^^^ haha yea



[Edited on August 23, 2008 at 2:17 PM. Reason : ^]

8/23/2008 1:59:55 PM

vinylbandit
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^^ Formative Moments in the Life of vinylbandit:

Iggy Pop calls Endless Mike Hellstrom a "Stooge."

8/23/2008 2:14:25 PM

Vanilla88
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Glen Danzig
Josh Homme

8/23/2008 2:30:20 PM

ThePeter
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As much as I love Guns N' Roses and Axl Rose's style, he can be a pretty shitty performer

8/23/2008 3:51:50 PM

vinylbandit
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but he can also be fucking incredible

but i'll take a hit-or-miss axl

over an always-mediocre sammy hagar (just as an example)

8/23/2008 4:04:08 PM

chickenhead

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no one's mentioned david gilmour - so i feel i should

8/23/2008 6:43:55 PM

dweedle
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guy from Boston
guy in Alice in Chains

8/23/2008 7:14:19 PM

wilso
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god, i love funhouse, much more than raw power

even though raw power has the stooges' two best songs

8/23/2008 7:34:14 PM

acdiaz
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agreed, Funhouse > Raw Power

Lots of good ones in this thread. I really enjoy the vocals of Chuck Schuldiner (from Death), especially on Symbolic and The Sound Of Perseverance.

8/23/2008 7:56:48 PM

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Stephan Jenkins- Third Eye Blind

8/23/2008 9:23:56 PM

prep-e
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Jim Adkins- Jimmy Eat World

8/23/2008 9:25:56 PM

CalledToArms
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for modern bands I really like Cedric Bixler-Zavala

8/24/2008 1:18:56 AM

The Dude
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Maynard

8/24/2008 9:04:57 AM

nacstate
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"I also always liked the voice of the lead singer from Staind. Shit always mellowed me out. made me want to slit my wrists."


[Edited on August 25, 2008 at 3:13 PM. Reason : .]

8/25/2008 3:13:06 PM

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i call shenanigans on anybody choosing guys from nickelback and the like. i refuse to believe that any real person would actually like that shit.

[Edited on August 25, 2008 at 4:16 PM. Reason : ]

8/25/2008 4:12:37 PM

Apocalypse
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Best ever.

8/25/2008 7:02:45 PM

Ytsejam
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Ian Astbury

8/25/2008 7:21:48 PM

chickenhead

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indie bands:

my morning jacket singer
mars volta, atdi, sparta singer

8/25/2008 7:32:50 PM

Battousai
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brandon boyd - Incubus
brent smith - Shinedown
chester bennington - Linkin Park

[Edited on August 26, 2008 at 2:21 PM. Reason : lp]

8/26/2008 2:13:51 PM

CalledToArms
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^^ Cedric Bixler Zavala was only the vocalist for atdi and mars volta, not sparta if you were thinking/implying that it was 1 person.

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"brent smith - Shinedown
chester bennington - Linkin Park"


i hope thats a troll. Chester has to be one of the WORST male vocalists in a rock band.

[Edited on August 26, 2008 at 2:23 PM. Reason : ]

8/26/2008 2:21:59 PM

superchevy
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chris cornell

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"1. chino"

+1 rep for the deftones reference - that is, if you're indeed talking about chino moreno.

8/26/2008 4:48:48 PM

CalledToArms
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psh of course he is. I still rock my White Pony hat to this day as my main hat 8 years after getting it when I picked up that album I dont listen to them much these days (still enjoy them but theyve just fallen down for me with the amount of music accumulated + less free time to listen to music), but they were the first band to inspire me to make music and the first CD I bought, so I wear it around with pride

[Edited on August 26, 2008 at 5:00 PM. Reason : ]

8/26/2008 4:59:54 PM

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"Cedric Bixler Zavala was only the vocalist for atdi and mars volta, not sparta if you were thinking/implying that it was 1 person."


yea the sparta guy sounds different - sparta has some band members from atdi / mars volta right?

8/26/2008 5:50:25 PM

wilso
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yep

8/26/2008 6:01:30 PM

CalledToArms
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When At the Drive In split in 2001 Cedric and Omar (vocalist and bass/guitar player) left to form The Mars Volta. The other members went on to form sparta. While the sparta guys are talented, Omar and Cedric WERE at the drive in which is where sparta has fallen short. They lost their 2 creative geniouses to Mars Volta.


[Edited on August 26, 2008 at 7:32 PM. Reason : ]

8/26/2008 7:28:38 PM

Apocalypse
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8/26/2008 7:29:58 PM

prep-e
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"brandon boyd - Incubus"


good call

8/26/2008 7:47:43 PM

dweedle
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george thorogood lol

8/26/2008 9:04:55 PM

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