^ Dude, shut. . .the fuck. . .up. Can you show me where I indicated that Carville is unbiased, you dumbfuck? Of course you can't--because you made it all up in your feverish little mind.

I quoted Carville because he crystallized the sentiment I heard from a lot of commentators last night concerning the speeches: the music of them sounded beautiful but the lyrics were lacking. Can you attempt to grasp this without spraining something?

And Jim Leach? That RINO? He looked like the biggest fucking doofus I've ever seen--and he was so boring I thought they were going to put the hook on him. Pitiful.

8/26/2008 1:00:41 PM

you are always wanting poor little hooksaw. here's more positive reviews you jackass..and I'd quote more but I'm at work and don't have time.

Andrew Sullivan - The Atlantic

Quote :

"The notion that tonight should have been about ripping the bark off the president seems to me misplaced. No one needs to be persuaded that the country is on the wrong track. We have endured one of the worst presidencies in American history, a stalling economy, and a war that was as deceptively packaged as it was poorly executed. The wrong track number is at 80 percent. What was necessary tonight was rebutting the only real weapon the Republicans have: dragging Obama into the mud, throwing every extremist attack they can at him, painting him as a commie, alien, anti-American freak. For good measure, they had tried to paint Michelle as an angry black radical. They failed. There was nothing more American than the way the Obamas spoke of their story. It made them more appealing to the white working class and the black working class. It defused the smears. And, taken as whole, it also gave the Democrats some good feeling with the Kennedys. "

Mark Halperin gives Michelle Obama’s DNC speech an ‘A’:

Quote :

"“In her one big chance to convince the country she is ready to be first lady, Michelle Obama checked the box in a major way.”"

Ben Smith from politico.com

Quote :

"Michelle's convention speech Michelle could hardly have done better in the biggest speech of her career. She's been on the trail for more than a year, but still gives the impression of being a little realer than the seasoned pols. Her voice was richly emotional from the start, and she battled tears at the end. The speech may or may not reshape her image, but it's hard to imagine her having done better."

The National Review - "Michelle Obama's speech was quite effective".

Quote :

" Here were the five keys to its successes: 1) Make Barack One of Us. She gave us an affecting portrait of her own family, like so many families in America, and then said of Barack, “even though he had this funny name, even though he'd grown up all the way across the continent in Hawaii, his family was so much like mine.” 2) Emphasize the Working Class. 3) Elevate Work as the Supreme Value. 4) Score One for the Patriarchy. 5) Have Cute Kids. "

[Edited on August 26, 2008 at 1:20 PM. Reason : -]

8/26/2008 1:19:55 PM

I thought Michelle was great. Very good speaker, good speech, not overly dramatic or sappy.

I wanted to gouge my eyes and ears out when Pelosi was on, but what else is new...

8/26/2008 1:34:36 PM

The hypocrisy is funny.

Quote :

"Despite a campaign that attacked corporate and special interest lobbyists as evil and banned their money and participation, Sen. Barack Obama has done little, if anything, about their pervasive, free-spending presence at the Democratic convention in Denver, ethics watchdog groups say. "

Quote :

"As a result, lobbyists are once again spending millions of dollars here on gourmet food, top-shelf liquor and private lavish parties for Democratic elected officials who seem more than happy to play the role of world-class freeloaders. "

http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=5648474

8/26/2008 5:14:47 PM

I enjoyed the few excerpts from the drunken murderer's speech last night. I think I heard the words "hope" and "change" about five or six times before I got disgusted and turned the radio off, without hearing any real message of substance.

Quote :

"Barack and I were raised with so many of the same values: that you work hard for what you want in life [so the government can take it away from you and give it to someone who won't]; that your word is your bond [unless you are running for office] and you do what you say you're going to do [unless it turns out that you can bury your opponent in fundraising]"

8/26/2008 5:40:04 PM

laura bush = murderer

8/26/2008 5:42:44 PM

riiiiiiiiight. did she leave a body in a river and "forget" to call police for several hours? riiiiiight...

8/26/2008 5:54:15 PM

^^^^ I honestly don't know, but does the nominee's group plan the national convention?

And I wonder how lavish the Republican convention will be, considering McCain claims he kind find a 100 billion dollars in excess "easily."

8/26/2008 5:58:46 PM

Quote :

"I honestly don't know, but does the nominee's group plan the national convention?"

Well it sure as hell wasnt the republicans planning it. LOL

8/26/2008 6:12:43 PM

So you're saying that Obama's campaign plans it?

8/26/2008 6:14:55 PM

i would seriously doubt that, given that the convention is, ostensibly, supposed to nominate the candidate for the party. Seems kind of impossible that the nominated candidate would organize the convention at which he is to be nominated. It's the DNC. Thus, the Democratic party organizes the convention.

Yes, Obama's campaign can't stop the lobbyists from showing up, but I think Obama could easily stand up and say "hey, we don't want to be a part of the old guard's ways, so don't associate with the lobbyists." Of course, that would require Obama to actually live up to his word.

8/26/2008 6:17:23 PM

I dont think Obama himself plans the convention, but Im sure he has alot of input.

Burro nailed it

Quote :

"but I think Obama could easily stand up and say "hey, we don't want to be a part of the old guard's ways, so don't associate with the lobbyists." Of course, that would require Obama to actually live up to his word."

obama cant stop lobbiest from getting into his own party. I guess we can HOPE he can CHANGE things, because he has given no evidence of actually doing it. haha.

[Edited on August 26, 2008 at 6:26 PM. Reason : .]

8/26/2008 6:25:30 PM

[Edited on August 26, 2008 at 6:46 PM. Reason : covered]

8/26/2008 6:43:00 PM

Aww, I hate I missed it, Kucinich always gives a good crazy speech... I mean its not Gravel level, but it usually proves interesting.

Quote :

"DENVER, Colorado (CNN) -- Two-time Democratic presidential candidate and Ohio Rep. Dennis Kucinich got delegates at the Democratic National Convention on their feet Tuesday as he called on Americans to "wake up.""

Quote :

""This administration can tap our phones; they can't tap our creative spirit," he said, closing his brief address with, "Up with Obama-Biden! Wake up, America! Wake up, America! Wake up, America!""

8/26/2008 8:33:21 PM

SIEG HEIL!!!

8/26/2008 8:42:38 PM

clever.
really. that's new

8/26/2008 8:47:02 PM

aaronburro, i think your crazy rightist politics are much more akin to hitler's than kucinich's ever will be.

8/26/2008 9:22:15 PM

OMFG,

WHEN IS HILLARY GOING TO SPEAK???!!!!

8/26/2008 10:12:46 PM

There is so much hype that has built up about what Clinton's speech needs to be, is there any chance it doesn't fall incredibly short of that?

8/26/2008 10:23:49 PM

ANY chance? yea. totally overhyped

ps. tribute video is kinda lame. no offense.

[Edited on August 26, 2008 at 10:39 PM. Reason : and tom petty? seriously. cheesy. ]

8/26/2008 10:39:12 PM

SIEG HEIL!! OMG!!!!

8/26/2008 10:40:37 PM

i was expecting a little more from Chelsea

8/26/2008 10:42:36 PM

Tiger Claw!

8/26/2008 10:42:39 PM

^^ same. i didn't realize cheesy tribute video was her intro

8/26/2008 10:43:39 PM

Orange pant suit?

8/26/2008 10:43:46 PM

bill clinton mouthing "i love you"

i can't decide if that is inspiring or just ridiculous.

8/26/2008 10:45:00 PM

Can we be sure he was talking to Hillary?

Regaurdless, I'm going with disturbing.

8/26/2008 10:50:03 PM

haha what was the pouty face he was just making?

8/26/2008 10:50:44 PM

^^ lol true true.

ok speech was way over hyped. she is saying all the right things but i don't know how convincing it is.

8/26/2008 10:52:05 PM

Did she just say, "sisterhood of the traveling pant-suits?"

8/26/2008 10:52:16 PM

Hey, at least we can be sure Hillary's pants-suit don't have any stains on'em.

8/26/2008 10:55:34 PM

this is the most annoying speech ever

4 years of hilary would be the worst thing ever

8/26/2008 11:02:01 PM

don't watch if you are so annoyed

8/26/2008 11:02:50 PM

That "Twin Cities" thing was pretty cheesy

8/26/2008 11:04:53 PM

mark warner was cool

her voice is just a pain to listen to

and she's so fucking high and mighty

8/26/2008 11:05:23 PM

yea, she is

the post-speech is when i want 3 tvs. msnbc, cnn and fox news. always interesting to hear the comments after speeches.

[Edited on August 26, 2008 at 11:08 PM. Reason : .]

8/26/2008 11:06:34 PM

that's why i watch cspan

because i make up my own mind and don't need to hear what those tards on cable news tv get out of it

8/26/2008 11:09:19 PM

oh i make up my own mind i just like to hear what they say.

political junkiness

8/26/2008 11:10:17 PM

Better than I expected. She tied the struggle for gender and racial equality together. And she did her best to make it clear that a vote for McCain is a vote against what her campaign stood for.

8/26/2008 11:10:29 PM

it's rubbish is what it is

a bunch of graphics, exploding sound effects and ass blowing

[Edited on August 26, 2008 at 11:11 PM. Reason : ^^]

8/26/2008 11:11:10 PM

the commentary is amusing to say the least

no amount of commentary can sway me away from the opinion that that was the most fake, annoying and bullshit speech i've ever heard

8/26/2008 11:11:33 PM

^^^ right i thought that was good. it still seemed a little obvious that she's not over it. i mean the speech was still a little self involved i think, no? she kept saying "why i ran why i ran why i ran" instead of focusing more on obama. i guess that isn't a horrible thing. at least she added the mccain bit in.

^^ haha i know. i like the commentary.

[Edited on August 26, 2008 at 11:12 PM. Reason : .]

8/26/2008 11:11:45 PM

haha bill krystal on fox is all like "uhh, she barely endorsed him at all. it was totally weak."

over on msnbc olbermann is all like "grandslam out of the park endorsement of obama"

fuck all ya'll

8/26/2008 11:12:28 PM

i KNOW i kindof agree with fox on this one

i didn't think it was a grandslam. i think it was fine. just fine. pretty much what i was expecting.

[Edited on August 26, 2008 at 11:13 PM. Reason : .]

8/26/2008 11:13:20 PM

I bet WJC is standing up there wishing he could tap the ass of some Young Democrat tonight

8/26/2008 11:15:33 PM

so mccain's campaign already issued a statement regarding the speech...according to fox news. we report, you decide.

edit: OMG old woman on msnbc. i can't handle old people. they make me sad.

[Edited on August 26, 2008 at 11:17 PM. Reason : .]

8/26/2008 11:17:06 PM

she's probably happy she's allowed to vote

8/26/2008 11:23:12 PM

what is she trying to do? I don't get it.... very tepid endorsement...
From Hillary I got.... 'vote for Barack because he's a Democrat'.... and cause I didn't win..

8/26/2008 11:24:32 PM

^ exactly. but it was what i was expecting. could have been worse...i guess.

i'm interested to hear bill (tomorrow). i feel like he isn't over it (her losing) at all.

8/26/2008 11:28:52 PM

Yeah... I didn't buy it. She said all the right things, but it sounded like she was trying to convince herself more than anybody else.

8/26/2008 11:30:15 PM