^hence:

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"although I do admit, you're good at luring people off topic"

9/2/2008 2:35:17 PM

The following organizations don't know what strong-arm means

Economic Times of India

HC criticises 'strong arm' tactics of banks

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/News/News_By_Industry/Banking_Finance_/HC_criticises_strong_arm_tactics_of_banks/articleshow/3366549.cms

Chesterton Tribune

Visclosky rails against CN's strong arm tactics

http://www.chestertontribune.com/Northwest%20Indiana/8257%20visclosky_rails_against_cns_stro.htm

Washington Post

Congress Strong-Arming Baseball? That's Foul.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/18/AR2008011802871.html

Marion Star

Physicians: Insurance companies strong-arming endangers patient care

http://www.marionstar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080825/NEWS01/808250307/-1/newsfront2

New York Times

Strong-Arming the Vote

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/03/opinion/edit-1-thu.html

The Register

Orange strong-arming ex-customers for imagined debts

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/09/03/orange_strong_arm_tatics/

Time Magazine

STRONG-ARMING THE TUBE

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,984955,00.html

Instead of acknowleding your mistake, you have decided, as you alwasy do, to try and take this thread into absurdity.

[Edited on September 2, 2008 at 2:41 PM. Reason : .]

9/2/2008 2:40:01 PM

looks like all those sources are drama queens who like misusing words, just like you

9/2/2008 2:45:08 PM

You are right twista, the dictionaries, the liberal news media, and all the rest of the English speaking world is wrong. You are right.

9/2/2008 2:50:01 PM

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"I don't have a list of the books, but I'm sure it included Burroughs, Joyce, Nabokov, etc."

Based upon what, then? You don't have a list, but you're sure it included Joyce et. al. Kind of the way Bush was sure those WMDs were in Iraq. (They just had to be!)

9/2/2008 2:55:19 PM

What other books would a public library include that had "offensive language?"

9/2/2008 2:56:52 PM

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"the dictionaries"

the dictionaries agreed with me in most of their definitions...they tend to know what words and phrases mean

the liberal news media should never be used for proof of anything, and your claim about "the rest of the English speaking world" is just some baseless shit you pulled out of your ass

^i dunno, maybe you could post a list of the books she supposedly wanted banned?

9/2/2008 3:06:30 PM

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"the dictionaries agreed with me in most of their definitions"

And the other definitions that agreed with me, mean absolutely nothing; because grammarian TreeTwista hath spoken.

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"^i dunno, maybe you could post a list of the books she supposedly wanted banned?"

Maybe because it isn't available and either way, a library should not be about banning books. We're not talking about the elementary school library. We are talking about the public library.

[Edited on September 2, 2008 at 3:08 PM. Reason : .]

9/2/2008 3:07:51 PM

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"it isn't available"

so basically the basis of this thread, the backbone which makes the premise of this thread even worthy of discussing "isn't available"

great thread, GREAT thread

9/2/2008 3:11:51 PM

the thread isn't about banning books. This thread is about her firing the police chief and her threatening to fire the librarian because they both supported her opponent.

9/2/2008 3:13:38 PM

wow threatening to fire someone

i guess for a government worker like yourself, its shocking that someone doesn't have 100% job security

welcome to the real world

9/2/2008 3:15:13 PM

Those bitches served at the pleasure of the Mayor. She ran on a reform platform. Reform means cleaning house sometimes. This is a non-story.

9/2/2008 3:16:47 PM

They way the system works is simple. Non-elected beauracrats are not the types that get hired and fired with each new administration.

In the case of the librarian, she had been there for 7 years and the chief of police had been there since the department had been created in 1993.

Public servants of that nature should not be, nor ever should be forced to bend with the electoral winds. That is why there are laws in every state and at the federal level that cover this.

9/2/2008 3:18:04 PM

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"Those bitches served at the pleasure of the Mayor. She ran on a reform platform. Reform means cleaning house sometimes. This is a non-story."

You serve at the pleasure of, but there has to be valid reasons to fire someone. furthermore, her Wasilla campaign was not the reformer campaign that her Gov. campaign took on. her mayoral campaign was one of guns, gods, and abortion.

9/2/2008 3:20:15 PM

^Nonsense. Typical of the kind of nonsense that you usually post in TSB.

9/2/2008 3:20:28 PM

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"A court dismissed a suit subsequently filed by the police chief, finding that Palin had the right to fire city employees even for political reasons"

looks like those laws you alluded to have already been upheld... source

9/2/2008 3:21:00 PM

^It's currently bein appealed.

^^Alright master of all knowledge. Explain why every single state and the federal government has Personel Acts?

That's right, to remove the taint of the spoils system. Your posting style is nothing more than, "your wrong, but I won't say anything more because you are wrong."

9/2/2008 3:22:55 PM

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"It's currently bein appealed"

and currently, the court agrees with Palin

9/2/2008 3:24:24 PM

Which doesn't mean it won't be changed, and furthermore, just because the federal appeals court upheld the firing does not mean it was the right or ethical thing to do.

9/2/2008 3:26:45 PM

I guess it depends, but if the mayor has the right to choose a police chief, and she is the mayor.. umm doesn't that give her the right to do that? I mean, maybe she wanted someone younger, if that guy had served in Anchorage for 22 years, and had been the police chief since 1993....

Not sure if I believe the "banning books" accusation, seems like she was just clearing out people she didn't like, which happens all the time, even if it isn't justified. If Obama gets elected, you don't think he is going to do some house cleaning?

9/2/2008 3:27:33 PM

of political appointees, sure, but not your everyday work-a-day non-elected officials.

On a side note, I went through the Wasilla Library Collection and search for various banned books and came back with the following, all because of language or religion

As I lay Dying - William Faulkner
Beloved - Toni Morrison
Catcher in the Rye - J.D. Salinger
Clan of the Cave Bear - Jean Auel
Color Purple - Alice Walker
Dubliners - James Joyce
Fahrenheit 451 - Ray Bradbury
I Know why the Caged Bird Sings - Maya Angelou
Lady' Chatterly's Lover - D.H. Lawrence
Lolita - Vladimir Nabokov
Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
Portrait of an Artist as a Young Man - James Joyce
Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut
Ulysses - James Joyce




[Edited on September 2, 2008 at 3:55 PM. Reason : .]

9/2/2008 3:30:19 PM

If you're so right about your arguments, harping on shit like this:

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"its not my fault you dont know what strong arm means but after all you dont know how Anchorage is spelled so its not that much of a surprise"

doesn't help your argument hold much water. You'd be better off just waiting until someone comes back with a worthy argument. Otherwise you just sound like a douche/troll/idiot.

to each his own though.

9/2/2008 5:00:51 PM

whats so bad about the books nutsmackr posted? any english majors up in this piece?

9/2/2008 5:08:10 PM

that's a pretty standard list of books that evangelicals like to get banned.

Catcher in the Rye - dirty language, talks about sex and suicide
Lolita - sex, pedophilia
Color Purple - violence, interracial sex
Fahrenheit 451 - government insubordination (ironic, really.... a book about burning books because they obtain too much information is banned)
Martian Chronicles - .... science fiction? too much science? challenges the idea of a human-centric universe? i dunno
I Know why the Caged Bird Sings - ermmm.......

9/2/2008 5:15:47 PM

I was out of town on business most of the weekend and so I honestly haven't had time to really research Palin, but this book banning business is scary.

9/2/2008 5:41:38 PM

of course these books are ok to liberals. you've already killed off all your kids, you don't need to worry about what your 6 year old kid is checking out at the library.

9/2/2008 5:44:35 PM

if I had a 6 year old that was interested in reading any of those books, I would first be proud of him/her taking the initiative for diving into such heady literature at that age. Then I would individually evaluate the book and see if he was ready for it (Fahrenheit 451? give it a shot. Slaughterhouse Five? let's wait a few years) and make a parental decision if he should or should not read the book.

I would not, however, suggest that the library remove the book from the shelves completely just because some parents don't take an interest in what their kids are reading.

9/2/2008 6:00:16 PM

^^ Wins TSB quote of the week on so many levels.

9/2/2008 6:59:14 PM

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"Martian Chronicles - .... science fiction? too much science? challenges the idea of a human-centric universe? i dunno I Know why the Caged Bird Sings - ermmm......."

Martian Chronicles = because of language
I know why the Caged Bird Sings = It details the childhood rape of Maya Angelou.

9/3/2008 10:40:04 AM

great,Palin opposes Freedom of Speech

greeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat

another reason to as why McCant is so out of touch with everything in the universe

9/3/2008 11:09:10 AM

Good thing Palin fired Police Chief Stambaugh, otherwise Wassila might have ended up being the Meth Capital of Alaska.

Oh nevermind, it is.

http://www.juneauempire.com/stories/030805/sta_20050308002.shtml

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"Troopers dub Mat-Su area the meth capital of Alaska THE ASSOCIATED PRESS WASILLA - The Matanuska-Susitna area is the methamphetamine capital of Alaska, according to Alaska State Troopers. In 2003, authorities uncovered nine meth labs in the area. Last year, the number increased to 42, said Kyle Young, an investigator with the troopers who works with the Mat-Su narcotics team. .... When authorities surrounded a converted bus housing a meth operation in Big Lake in January, a 13-year-old boy who answered the door bragged that his mom cooked the best meth in the valley, according to the troopers. During a 2003 bust at a house outside Wasilla, officers discovered five children living inside, all younger than 8 years old. The calls about meth to children's services in Wasilla accounts for as many as 40 percent of the agency's total monthly child protection calls."

9/4/2008 4:24:51 PM

both of these last 2 posts make a lot of sense

this is why obama is going to win in a landslide and palin is going to totally sink herself and country

i mean what parent in their right mind could possibly relate to her??

9/4/2008 4:27:33 PM

hmm, an article i read says that no books were actually banned/censored, only that palin had asked a "rhetorical question" about the possibility of banning books in the future

http://news.bostonherald.com/news/national/politics/2008/view.bg?articleid=1117009&srvc=home&position=emailed

9/4/2008 8:19:38 PM

it also says the librarian resigned...i think i read in an earlier story that palin fired her

still though that doesnt really mean anything...people get forced to resign all the time

9/4/2008 8:40:29 PM

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"Good thing Palin fired Police Chief Stambaugh, otherwise Wassila might have ended up being the Meth Capital of Alaska. Oh nevermind, it is"

Okay, you realize that Palin was mayor until 2002 right? From your own article,

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"In 2003, authorities uncovered nine meth labs in the area. Last year, the number increased to 42, said Kyle Young, an investigator with the troopers who works with the Mat-Su narcotics team."

Yeah, the police chief was fired in '96. A bit overzealous in your witch hunt, eh?

9/5/2008 1:23:53 AM