9/7/2008 4:39:22 PM

are you a mormon or jehova's witness?

9/7/2008 4:42:35 PM

no. but i'm amazed at how anti christian this forum is.

i've had a lot of foreigners tell me that they personally believe that what really makes america great is its values and morals that most of the religions practice here. i was suprised to hear this from those ppl.

its shocking at how much its becoming rejected amongst us though. is it going to turn to violence soon? maybe. give it 10 years.

[Edited on September 7, 2008 at 4:48 PM. Reason : .]

9/7/2008 4:45:47 PM

9/7/2008 4:49:27 PM

^ yeh, stuff like that.

9/7/2008 4:57:53 PM

Quote :

"The founding fathers were not creationist nutjobs; Governor Palin is a creationist nutjob."

Quote :

"You obviously have bought the farm when it comes to history. You've finally given in to the rumor that they weren't."

Note where I state that the founding fathers were not creationist nutjobs. Many of the founding fathers did believe in god and creation, but it's wrong to compare their beliefs to those of the modern evangelical movement (to which I believe Governer Palin subscribes).

9/7/2008 5:42:34 PM

wait, wats the diff between a creationist and a creationist-nutjob again?

9/7/2008 7:29:47 PM

there is a difference?

9/7/2008 7:39:20 PM

^exactly


so tell me guys. i'm gonna go out on a limb here and list a few important positions in a community (regardless of your religious beliefs) that are important, in order of importance


1. mayor
2. city counsel
3. police/fire chiefs
4. superintendent and principles of schools
5. health manager
6. chief of transportation
7. teachers/professors
8. religous / charitable leaders
9. waste management chief


so, where would you put "Community Organizer" in that list of important positions?

I'd put them def below a principle of a school, but -maybe- above the teachers and professors b/c they might have a budget to deal with.


So Palin is a mayor, and gets absolutely 0 credit obviously b/c she goes to church, but Obama is fit to run the greatest military on earth b/c he was in some cult organization for a couple years????


No wonder her rating is destroying Obamas.

9/7/2008 7:58:31 PM

I would argue that the founding fathers' beliefs would have been less nutty than that of a modern-day creationist, given the wealth of knowledge that exists today, comparatively.

9/7/2008 9:08:34 PM

Holly Springs is twice the size of Wasilla.

9/7/2008 9:12:03 PM

pta + city counsel + mayor + governor >>>>>>> volunteer + write a book + 143 days in Senate


at least to logical human beings.

9/7/2008 9:16:56 PM

http://www.electoral-vote.com/

Obama 301 McCain 224 Ties 13

the only polling that matters in the end says mccain loses hard

9/8/2008 12:25:55 AM

It would be extremely bad press if Obama won without the popular vote.

9/8/2008 12:30:06 AM

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"http://www.electoral-vote.com/ Obama 301 McCain 224 Ties 13 the only polling that matters in the end says mccain loses hard"

That's a pretty weak site. Some of the polls for certain states are over 2 weeks old, and only use one poll per state.. yeah... I know you have to comfort yourself, but that's pretty empty.

Anyone who thinks, or has thought, that this will be anything but a close race is fooling themselves.

Quote :

"It would be extremely bad press if Obama won without the popular vote."

But it would be hilarious.

[Edited on September 8, 2008 at 12:32 AM. Reason : .]

9/8/2008 12:31:40 AM

If McCain won without the popular vote, that would be even worse press.

9/8/2008 12:34:26 AM

if you need confirmation

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/maps/obama_vs_mccain/?map=5
Barack Obama 238

183 Solid 55 Leaning

John McCain 174

142 Solid 32 Leaning

Toss Up 126

126 Toss Up

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/maps/obama_vs_mccain/?map=10

it's much closer if you look at this site with the "no tossup states" chart, but obama still wins

Barack Obama 273 John McCain 265

the point I'm really trying to make is that nationwide polling is USELESS for predicting the results of the actual election, since we all know full well that the popular vote means nothing politically

It does give us an idea of the opinions of the citizenry (kind of), but it doesn't tell us who will win

[Edited on September 8, 2008 at 12:36 AM. Reason : ,]

9/8/2008 12:35:14 AM

polls lol.

you should be worrying about whether obama is ever gonna develop a non-laughable national security plan, or a way to actually make the price of oil go down besides filling up our tires.

9/8/2008 1:00:40 AM

Yeah, haha, polls. Can you imagine responding to a thread about a poll with another poll result? God, how stupid is that?

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9/8/2008 9:30:11 AM

Quote :

"Voters, particularly women, seem to agree, according to new polls. An ABC News-Washington Post survey showed white women have moved from backing Obama by 8 points to supporting McCain by 12 points, with majorities viewing Palin favorably and saying she boosts their faith in McCain's decisions."

you see why we didn't let you women vote for so long?

9/9/2008 9:31:29 AM

^I assume you meant that as a joke

9/11/2008 12:01:24 PM

Quote :

"You will see Palin on TV one more time before the election and it will be of course the debate. There will be no interviews done prior to the election because they are afraid she will screw up...and this is suppose to be someone that should be VP? I guess they are figuring if they get elected, she can Bush along....."

Where did you get this information? My guess is you made it up. Hell, Oprah's in such a tiff over Palin that she won't let her on the show until after the election.

Quote :

"And some of you people want these guys to be our leaders? WAKE UP, you're (mostly) college students, learn to think. the republican party is not.the.same.as.it.used.to.be "

Very true. And neither is is the Democratic party. I'll take my chances with the lesser of two evils thank you.

9/11/2008 12:49:43 PM