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9/8/2008 12:45:19 AM

people are so obsessed with the police handling their day to day safety now that I'm fairly certain you can be jailed for both taking action and not taking action. likely has a great deal to do with the level of dickhead the cop is, how queer the DA is and what state you're in

9/8/2008 12:45:56 AM

hold on I'm still savoring my fantasy of crushing this guy's face with a pipe and knocking his fucking teeth and eyes out

...

9/8/2008 12:48:14 AM

no one would be fighting at my place of business, men or women

9/8/2008 12:50:22 AM

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"^^ please explain "

self defense (is generally) all about threat of serious bodily harm. which has to be pretty imminent. and then its about proportion---you can only use equal force. and if the attacker retreats/stops attacking, you usually can't keep doing it, etc etc. so defense of others (generally) adheres to the rules of self defense. and if you use it the person you are protecting would have to have been able to do what you are doing.

if that makes sense.

9/8/2008 12:50:23 AM

nope

so if this guy was pounding the shit out of a 12 year old crippled girl I'd only be able to bleed on him in her defense?

I don't know - I think you should just hurt the fuck out of people like this no matter what
the thing that made me really angry was that he continued to attack her

[Edited on September 8, 2008 at 12:52 AM. Reason : -]

9/8/2008 12:52:04 AM

9/8/2008 12:54:46 AM

I don't understand your post even a little

9/8/2008 12:55:53 AM

I'm pretty sure there's a lot more to this than we can tell from this video. Yeah it probably shouldn't have been that severe, but I'm sure there was a reason that none of the people were trying to stop it. Or if not, then I hope they read TWW and feel bad about themselves.

9/8/2008 12:59:16 AM

nvm

[Edited on September 8, 2008 at 1:02 AM. Reason : c]

9/8/2008 1:00:34 AM

nobody cares what you think. you're an alcoholic

9/8/2008 1:01:19 AM

I don't think that a beating like this is ever appropriate

but its in Russia where people are fucking savages
women are commodities and skinheads (like this fucker) scare everyone

people did nothing because they were afraid

9/8/2008 1:02:22 AM

why does the general public need a reason to stop violence?

9/8/2008 1:03:18 AM

why is the general public always outraged at itself?

9/8/2008 1:04:22 AM

i didn't finish watching that because i was so disturbed by it...

9/8/2008 1:04:51 AM

I mean the one woman looks like shes just continuing her job.. I dunno what she's really doin, but maybe the girl in the booth is homeless and has been told countless times to leave, and doesn't, so she needs an assbeating. I dunno...

9/8/2008 1:05:25 AM

no it means if someone is bitch slapping you in the face and you take out a gun and shoot them, your response was not proportionate.

i mean its all a matter of arguing too (i mean maybe it was proportionate. maybe they had aids all over their hands, i don't know). and whether or not you were actually in danger/threat of serious bodily harm/death.

9/8/2008 1:06:08 AM

^the police are on video all the time doing exactly that

it's not like they're not subject to the same laws we are


[Edited on September 8, 2008 at 1:10 AM. Reason : \/ WE'LL SEE WHAT THE COURTS DECIDE]

9/8/2008 1:06:48 AM

there's no record...it all changes when i change it. unless you find somebody quoting my status too..which i may or may not have done once

9/8/2008 1:07:59 AM

^^

?? i'm confused, but maybe it is because i didn't watch the video. but yea, a police response to something IS different from a regular citizen response. because it is in the job duties of a police officer to do certain things and to use certain force. yes, they are still regulated by laws but it is often different than a regular citizen response

9/8/2008 1:25:13 AM

i was hoping this was about world of warcraft.

I'm walls1441 and i approved this message.

9/8/2008 1:27:00 AM

AND police do get disciplined because of excessive force. and when they don't people often feel it is a result of their status. ad that is why people are so wary about police officers protecting their rights

9/8/2008 1:27:56 AM

the sad thing is this happens all the time and many women die from injuries
just look on http://www.wral.com and you'll see a few

9/8/2008 1:29:45 AM

9/8/2008 1:33:47 AM

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"shit, if they were fighting near my car, I'd stop it in a heartbeat. Otherwise, I'd just call the po-po. If I was a mechanic or an employee there, I'd beat his ass with a big ass monkey wrench."

I would think that all of those suggestions would be a start for most guys here. I don't like people screwing around near my car, and I certainly don't want to be around some asshole beating the crap out of a woman. The guys working there just watch.

9/8/2008 3:04:37 AM

This video makes me rather mad for three reasons). 1) that none of those people jumped in to help the girl until she had the living shit beat out of her, 2)some of you dumb shits on here find it funny, and you are prob some of the same dickwads who take advantage of women yourselves behind close doors, 3) God forbid, some dumb fuck ever jump on a lady like that in my presence b/c im getting thrown in jail for attempted murder!


I was hoping one, atleast ONE fucking person was going to jump in to help that lady...fucking ridiculous!!

9/8/2008 3:24:02 AM

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"I'm pretty sure there's a lot more to this than we can tell from this video."

Yeah, the ending. You know, the part where she winds up dead a couple years from now.

9/8/2008 5:46:21 AM

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"bystander effect. i once strangled a guy at Walnut Creek who was beating the bejeezus out of his wife...there were at least 50 people closer to him than I was, but they all just sat there with dumb looks on their faces. turns out he was drunk and pissed that she'd taken too long to go get them each another beer, and was convinced that she MUST have been out fuckin' someone in the parking lot, since the beer line at a fucking concert couldn't possibly take that long."

i witnessed did from 2 ft. away. the dumb cunt defended her abuser too.

[Edited on September 8, 2008 at 6:41 AM. Reason : .]

9/8/2008 6:41:18 AM

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"I agree. Most parents would get their kid the heck out of there. But I am just crazy enough that I'd probably get my kid out and then go back and kick that guy's ass."

It might not be the best choice, but I would probably do it too. There is no way I would let that happen in front of me. I'm scrappy/athletic and could get some hits in before anything happened in retaliation.

9/8/2008 7:30:32 AM

yeah i couldn't handle that... girls do not deserve to get hit... no matter how messed up the situation...

I wonder what happened though... i bet that's her husband/boyfriend or something and he caught her doin someone else.

9/8/2008 7:37:53 AM

sad part is that i'm sure if everybody in that room was on this message board they would say the same thing as every single one of you.

fact is... you wont' know what you really would do until you get in that situation. It looks like the guy was one of the employees too. it was craziness. I don't even care that it was a female because honestly anybody that just gets stormed in on like that.

but what somebody said is also a big problem in the situation. girl could be getting beat down and then as you jump in to help you realize you are getting beat down by the woman "get off my man!!!" from the back.

9/8/2008 7:45:26 AM

i guess she was a total bitch

why else would 5 guys not team up to help her

even if they thought they would get their ass kicked, they had plenty of tools around to bust the guy over the head with

9/8/2008 7:53:06 AM

i take back my first statement about the overuse of the word epic. this is well used.

9/8/2008 7:57:48 AM

just goes to show most people are punk bitches and they talk a lotta shit like they'd help on tdub, but then they'd just watch some girl get beat on.

9/8/2008 8:20:10 AM

Guy is/was probably mobbed up and found out the bitch was passing it around.

You gonna hit a guy you know is in organized crime? I wouldn't touch a motherfucker like that, and in Russia, its very possible he is.

9/8/2008 8:34:42 AM

it's douchebags like that who deserve to be attacked and raped by grizzley bears

9/8/2008 8:41:19 AM

I agree with the guy that said she probably had sex with him that night, some girls deserve this shit because they go out and stay with guys like this

9/8/2008 9:08:19 AM

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"i witnessed did from 2 ft. away. the dumb cunt defended her abuser too"

ha, yeah i forgot you were there.

9/8/2008 9:09:01 AM

Is there a link to this video that is sfw or can someone embed? thnx

9/8/2008 9:24:33 AM

i don't see an embed link. if someone will post up the html code for me to copy/paste, i'll do it...i don't know how offhand, and don't want to spend time figuring it out.

9/8/2008 9:40:49 AM

I just scrolled through this whole thread looking for a video because I was lazy lol.

I want to comment because it seems interesting, so I guess I'll go back and start at the beginning.

9/8/2008 9:42:59 AM

OH, WERE IS OUR LORD marko WHEN WE NEED HIM SO?

9/8/2008 11:13:28 AM

wow. this is insane !

9/8/2008 11:28:14 AM

I always believe if you cannot take a man you can def take a blunt object or at least a chair and hit him from behind in the back of the head. A woman could have enough adrenaline to at least knock the fucking bastard out for a minute. I know I cannot beat some man's ass but I know I have enough strength to let an object do it. I am sure there were lead pipes around there. Maybe it would at least allow his cowardly ass to suck his food up through a staw for a while. I get the scenarios in my head like I could knock him out and then I could bust the hell out of his shin bones so that maybe he could not walk for the rest of his life. It would at least keep me from taking a life.

9/8/2008 11:38:11 AM

what the fuck is this shit??

why did she keep going back into that room? obviously she wasn't safe in there. she didn't deserve to get beat like that but wtf woman? run away, grab hold of one of the other guys there, quit going back into the room where he first attacked you. are you that dumb?

[Edited on September 8, 2008 at 11:49 AM. Reason : ]

9/8/2008 11:45:08 AM

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"A woman could have enough adrenaline to at least knock the fucking bastard out for a minute."

No, no, not going to happen, or at least the odds are OVERWHELMINGLY against it. Something like a baseball bat would make the odds considerable, but even then, I'm not sure I'd bet on you knocking him out with one or two hits.

You aren't going to kick him and break his shins, either.

Get these silly ideas out of your heads before you go and get yourself killed or really, really, SEVERELY hurt. Unless you are a ninja or have a gun, baseball bat, butcher knife (and the benefit of a blindside attack), girls, you are going to get fucking annihilated if you try to tangle with a grown-ass man. Do everyone concerned a favor and quickly go find someone who is up to the task.

9/8/2008 11:53:51 AM

that is the prob we usually have to defend ourselves bc usually no man is able to be up to the task either.

[Edited on September 8, 2008 at 11:56 AM. Reason : hitting a man with a lead pipe is def in my fantasy. ]

[Edited on September 8, 2008 at 11:57 AM. Reason : did you even read what I wrote?]

9/8/2008 11:55:59 AM

it's funny because while everything that Duke is saying is true, he's really ignoring the fact that these people are just TALKING some talk, but when the situation came up they would do the same thing as the people in the video

a) cower

b) mill about aimlessly (really just a form of a)

or

c) yell at the guy (notice it was a chick and from a least a two arm length distance, any dude speaking up would of been jacked)

it is very unusual for someone to break out of hundreds of millions of years of evolutionary pressure

...

the reason that Duke was able to do something in the incident that he was involved in was because he fancies himself an alpha

and yes, I said fancies, because he is totally gay

[Edited on September 8, 2008 at 12:04 PM. Reason : .]

9/8/2008 12:00:29 PM

I was talking about knocking a man out for a minute from behind with an object. I know there is no way that I could do that with my two hands. I am not an idiot.

9/8/2008 12:03:13 PM

more than likely you would be too shocked and scared to do anything

9/8/2008 12:04:42 PM