tromboner950 All American 9667 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Strictly speaking, the probability of doomsday isn't any higher than it is on any normal Wednesday" |
They might want to be careful what they say, Wednesdays can be dangerous.9/9/2008 3:19:18 PM |
CeilingCat All American 1222 Posts user info edit post |
EMCE is that due to the slow growth of the black hole or the size of said buttcheek 9/9/2008 3:48:57 PM |
EMCE balls deep 89768 Posts user info edit post |
size of the buttcheek 9/9/2008 3:52:33 PM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
Is there a white hole? this is some racist shit right here. 9/9/2008 3:54:10 PM |
qntmfred retired 40714 Posts user info edit post |
actually there is 9/9/2008 3:55:34 PM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
To DeltaBeta:
Let me begin by saying... STFU NOOB.
Quote : | "It is going to create a black hole, actually thousands of them. Why don't you read up on what's shaking you to your chicken-little foundations before opening your mouth and proving how ignorant of the physics involved you are?" |
I know this. I've actually been following the construction of this thing for well over 2 years now and I'm quite sure I knew about it before 99% of normal people did. So STFU. I know what they intend to do with this thing. They're hoping that it reveals information about anti-matter, dark energy, dark matter, and yes... black holes. But these are all things that we have never observed up close and we really don't know what the fuck they are at all, so there is plenty of reason to be cautious.
Quote : | "You don't even know what a black hole does, but you're worried to death about it? I wish you were circling the event horizon right now." |
You should go read up on what sarcasm is.
Quote : | "They're also going to decay in less than the blink of an eye and cease to exist." |
In theory...
Quote : | "Again, how much mass do two subatomic particles have? So how strong do you think any black hole created would be? " |
Once again, a black hole is a fucking black hole. We've never observed one up close before and our ability to see them has only been around for about 70 years. We've never observed one being created before, therefore our lack of understanding of these things is immense.
To sum it up... you are Quote : | "acting like an elitist ass hat" |
To NyM410...
Quote : | "Jesus fucking christ... if you HONESTLY believe that there is a 1% chance of the world being destroyed by this you are a fucking idiot..." |
I'm 99% sure that you don't know jack shit about this thing so your commentary on what might actually happen is about as valuable as a cumstain on DNL's rug.9/9/2008 4:06:49 PM |
maalesh New Recruit 21 Posts user info edit post |
Look. Here's what's gonna happen. They're going to turn it on. Once they do, that'll start shooting beams into the thing. Those beams are going to be there for a couple weeks gaining speed and other miscellaneous things. Then, they can start actually getting the particles into each other. That will take them about 6-12 months to study. It would be around THAT time period that we'd have the chance of something going wrong. But these TINY TINY particles, THEY would be turning into little black holes. And they would emit so much radiation because of that that it would destroy itself and then that would be the end of it. They're going to have to do this over and over to see if they can eventually get what they want.
But all the hype about dying is bullshit. Be worried about solar storms in 2012, or a brown dwarf named Planet X that goes into our orbit and stops the Earth's rotation. OR reptilian gods that live among us and clone our political leaders to completely ruin our way of life. That's something to hype about.
[Edited on September 9, 2008 at 4:14 PM. Reason : /] 9/9/2008 4:13:09 PM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
Look, I've read at least as much about this thing as anyone else here. So unless you're a fucking particle physicist (which some of you may be), you don't know shit more about it than I do. 9/9/2008 4:18:18 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I'm 99% sure that you don't know jack shit about this thing so your commentary on what might actually happen is about as valuable as a cumstain on DNL's rug." |
You're right. I don't fully grasp the physics behind it. But the thing is, I don't have to. What I do know is that there is NOT a 1% chance that this thing will lead to the end of the world... Are you SERIOUSLY telling me that you think that they are going through with this if they believed that 1 out of every 100 times they did it, the world would end?
Please tell me you aren't serious, because that is the inference you are making...9/9/2008 4:18:53 PM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
look sometimes the gamble is worth it
9/9/2008 4:20:04 PM |
miska All American 22242 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "if it's going to destroy me, the least it could do is not wake me up when it happens - BigMan157 " |
amen!9/9/2008 4:20:56 PM |
EMCE balls deep 89768 Posts user info edit post |
hahaha, that 1% stat. was pulled out of someone's ass in this thread...just to make a point 9/9/2008 4:22:02 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
It wasn't even a made up stat. He just totally misunderstood what Fuschia was trying to say.
Everything I'm trolling him on is based on IMStoned420's quote:
Quote : | "That 1% is a huge fucking chance to take. If it does create a black hole then the world is absolutely fucked. How many times per week do you put your life at risk even 1%? Not very many. Now, we as a planet have decided to put everything at a 1% risk of being destroyed." |
[Edited on September 9, 2008 at 4:26 PM. Reason : x]9/9/2008 4:25:45 PM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
^^ If you would actually read what some of the articles say, that's exactly what the physicists are saying. They're saying that there's a 99.9% chance that nothing will happen (which I totally believe). But there are a shitload of them that aren't 100% guaranteeing that absolutely nothing bad will happen.
I also understand that if they get it going 100% and the first thing that comes out of there isn't a black hole that would gobble up the planet, then there likely won't ever be one that does that. But until we know FOR CERTAIN, that risk is going to be there.
All the other atom smashers that have been created up to this point pale in comparison to the power this new one wields. The very fact that they believe this one could help discover these previously undiscovered particles and energies that we have such a weak understanding of is a testament to how hazardous this thing could actually be. 9/9/2008 4:25:53 PM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
Look, I'm not losing any fucking sleep over this thing, but I don't see how some of you can be so sure of something of which you have ZERO understanding. The scientists themselves barely have any understanding of this these things they hope to find. 9/9/2008 4:28:03 PM |
DeltaBeta All American 9417 Posts user info edit post |
LOL. He called me a noob.
My first registration date was in January 2001 and I have a total of about 45,000 posts.
Beyond that:
The first quote of mine you posted - The physics is sound. We know EXACTLY what's going to happen that could be dangerous and have ruled out the possibilities of any of the doomsday scenarios that wackjobs like you and that Honolulu professor can conjure up.
The second quote - This is hilarious because it was obviously directed at Kiwi. I guess since you took it to mean you, then it applies.
The third quote - Once again, the physics is sound.
The fourth quote - I never claimed I wasn't being an "elitist ass hat". Most of the people in here, along with you, spewing their utter lack of knowledge on the subject and their abject fear over it makes it rather hard not to think I am better than you.
Now if you want to go round and round about it, fine. I suggest you do a lot more reading first.
[Edited on September 9, 2008 at 4:30 PM. Reason : *] 9/9/2008 4:28:46 PM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
NNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB asshat 9/9/2008 4:31:22 PM |
EMCE balls deep 89768 Posts user info edit post |
....and you do realize that statistic is greatly inflated right?
the way you're talking, you're equating 1% with .01% with .00000000001% 9/9/2008 4:31:26 PM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
It could be 100% for all we know. That's the point I'm trying to get across. NO ONE KNOWS FOR SURE. 9/9/2008 4:32:48 PM |
DeltaBeta All American 9417 Posts user info edit post |
They do know for sure. Physics isn't something that's subjective. It's either right or it's wrong. 9/9/2008 4:33:29 PM |
ScHpEnXeL Suspended 32613 Posts user info edit post |
why don't you worry about all the other ways you could die and their statistics and shut the fuck up
[Edited on September 9, 2008 at 4:33 PM. Reason : ^^] 9/9/2008 4:33:36 PM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Not exactly. Physicists have been wrong before and they'll be wrong again.
^ Why don't you take your mouth off your dad's penis?
[Edited on September 9, 2008 at 4:34 PM. Reason : ] 9/9/2008 4:34:21 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
This experiment is totally like fucking a chick without a rubber... 9/9/2008 4:34:32 PM |
DeltaBeta All American 9417 Posts user info edit post |
Have nearly ALL of them been SO wrong on the same subject?
NO.
If Hawking is comfortable with it, then it's safe.
[Edited on September 9, 2008 at 4:35 PM. Reason : *] 9/9/2008 4:34:55 PM |
Ragged All American 23473 Posts user info edit post |
i can only hope 9/9/2008 4:34:58 PM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ Now you're seeing my point
^^ Hawking has been wrong before.
[Edited on September 9, 2008 at 4:37 PM. Reason : ^] 9/9/2008 4:35:20 PM |
Wraith All American 27257 Posts user info edit post |
9/9/2008 4:35:48 PM |
DeltaBeta All American 9417 Posts user info edit post |
You don't have a point. You have an unfounded and irrational fear and a rambling thread dedicated to it. 9/9/2008 4:36:13 PM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
^ Well you have a tiny penis, but you don't see me calling you out on it. 9/9/2008 4:37:10 PM |
DeltaBeta All American 9417 Posts user info edit post |
I'll go ahead and accept that post as your concession. 9/9/2008 4:37:43 PM |
JayMCnasty All American 14180 Posts user info edit post |
hey at least wed be the last humans
[Edited on September 9, 2008 at 4:38 PM. Reason : i had a good time while i was on earth] 9/9/2008 4:37:57 PM |
EMCE balls deep 89768 Posts user info edit post |
...well yeah, that's the underlying concept with ALL statistics and probabilities, slobbargoat. we don't know for sure.
that doesn't enable you to then say that 1% = 100%. hell, there's a diffetence is significance between 1% and .01% 9/9/2008 4:38:17 PM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ Concession of what? You didn't try to refute anything I said. You simply said I was stupid and wrong. YOU were the one that conceded defeat.
^ Think I don't know that? Is anyone understanding what I'm trying to get across as my point that we don't know what the fuck is going to happen when this thing really cranks up or is everyone too busy looking at my username?
[Edited on September 9, 2008 at 4:40 PM. Reason : ] 9/9/2008 4:38:44 PM |
DeltaBeta All American 9417 Posts user info edit post |
NO YOU WERE!!!!!!!!
You need to get on home so your mom can make you a PB&J before you do your homework. 9/9/2008 4:39:42 PM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah... you definitely lose. 9/9/2008 4:40:28 PM |
DeltaBeta All American 9417 Posts user info edit post |
LOL
99.9% of knowing what's going to happen is statistically knowing what's going to happen. So yeah, we know that none of the "doomsday scenarios that wackjobs like you and that Honolulu professor can conjure up" aren't going to happen.
So eat a dick and choke.
[Edited on September 9, 2008 at 4:42 PM. Reason : *] 9/9/2008 4:40:49 PM |
EMCE balls deep 89768 Posts user info edit post |
look man, we can tell that you're hysterical. just calm down buddy. just calm down. I'm here for you man. give me a hug...
come on... 9/9/2008 4:42:40 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
I know you're saying that because he did. But the probability is most assuredly MUCH, MUCH, MUCH higher...9/9/2008 4:42:53 PM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
Unless you can explain with absolute certainty that this thing is 100% safe, then you don't have a leg to stand on. My argument this entire time has been that there's a POSSIBILITY that this thing is world-ending. Never that it was a sure thing. I'm intrigued by the science as well, but I'm still worried about what might happen.
^^ Yeah, like I haven't fallen for that one before.
[Edited on September 9, 2008 at 4:44 PM. Reason : ] 9/9/2008 4:43:15 PM |
DeltaBeta All American 9417 Posts user info edit post |
Is that directed at me or the nutjob? It's been fun wasting a bit of the afternoon at work riling up an imbecile who's afraid of his own shadow, so I'm pretty damned calm. Moreso than if the afternoon had been filled with actual, real work.
Ok, 99.9999999%.
Unfounded fear.
[Edited on September 9, 2008 at 4:44 PM. Reason : *] 9/9/2008 4:44:04 PM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
See, you can't prove that there's a 100% certainty that nothing catastrophic will happen, so you resort to calling me names. 9/9/2008 4:46:50 PM |
DeltaBeta All American 9417 Posts user info edit post |
No, I call you names because you're actually worried about it. 9/9/2008 4:47:25 PM |
Kiwi All American 38546 Posts user info edit post |
WE GON DIE!! 9/9/2008 4:47:43 PM |
DeltaBeta All American 9417 Posts user info edit post |
Of stupidity, from the looks of things. 9/9/2008 4:48:10 PM |
hollister All American 1498 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^^^^^DON'T YOU KNOW THE WORLD IS ENDING, EMCE??!??
FUCK HUGS, WHERE'S THAT PENETRATION YOU'VE BEEN PROMISING EVERYONE?!?!
[Edited on September 9, 2008 at 4:49 PM. Reason : damn hyperposting] 9/9/2008 4:48:17 PM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
^^ I already said I haven't, nor do I plan to, lose any sleep over this. Mainly because there isn't shit I can do about it. But that doesn't mean I can't pretend to be super-worried about it to troll the fuck out of dumbasses like you.
[Edited on September 9, 2008 at 4:49 PM. Reason : ] 9/9/2008 4:48:41 PM |
DeltaBeta All American 9417 Posts user info edit post |
You mean all this time I thought I was trolling you, you were actually doing the trolling? I mean that's funny right there. We're like Cousin Larry and Balky right about now.
9/9/2008 4:50:04 PM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, except I still win. NOOB. 9/9/2008 4:50:54 PM |
DeltaBeta All American 9417 Posts user info edit post |
You're Steve Urkel and I'm Carl. 9/9/2008 4:51:35 PM |
chickenhead
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set em up 9/9/2008 4:56:15 PM |