i hate ryan

9/26/2008 9:53:44 AM

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"i'd wager you folks will hate the first episode ryan"

9/26/2008 9:57:02 AM

Jim has this less than desirable quality about him that everyone seems to overlook, often he is completely oblivious to social ettiquette when pressured and/or backed into a corner.

ie. in karen's office when he was questioned about pam.
the night when he got the gang locked in and had to call the security guard.
im sure there are more examples that i cant remember at the moment.

its a subtle flaw to an otherwise archetypal cool-guy character design.

I'd like to add proposing at a fucking gas station to that list.

9/26/2008 9:58:46 AM

^ I guess his whole consolidation of birthday parties while he was in charge that day could fall in that category... everybody was pissed at him

9/26/2008 10:00:07 AM

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"n karen's office when he was questioned about pam. the night when he got the gang locked in and had to call the security guard."

i don't recall any lack of social etiquette in these situations....
with the Karen thing, he was just flummoxed. he was always in love with Pam, and tried to use karan as a rebound, it backfired, karen called him on it.... what's he supposed to do?

then when he called the security guard - that turned out weird/awkward because he has too much social etiquette, or too-PC aware. He didn't know the guy's name, all he could do was describe him ("is this the african-american gentleman at the security desk"). He was in an uncomfortable situation, and he tried to handle it without hurting anyone's feelings, like most people would do

9/26/2008 10:14:02 AM

Episode 1 is posted on hulu.com now..

9/26/2008 11:09:36 AM

chubby dude is on mad men

9/26/2008 12:11:23 PM

Yeah, im just saying it's refreshing to see the writers flesh out Jim. When the series began, Jim was penned as the dorky yet 'cool' character that we admire and cant help but like/root for, sort of a nerdy Fonzie, yet with all of the invincible qualities of our favorite Jukebox repairman. Where I argue the series becomes more interesting, is as the series progresses, they show him mess up more often, frequently have him fall flat on his face, usually in extremely uncomfortable (to watch) situations, often ending with total meltdown where we can see the real Jim shine, when his slick exterior/wit can't handle the heat and he breaks down into a flustered, speechless, and tormented soul--all caught on camera by the emotionless docu crew (which only seems to add to the stress). A reminder of his flaws, and in short a more believable character portrayal then what we are used to seeing on tv.

And yes I would throw the birthday ep in that category.

9/26/2008 12:11:48 PM

Im waiting for them to do what they did to Tim in the UK version where he got kinda power hungry after his promotion.

9/26/2008 12:40:04 PM

What was up with Meridith's face? It looked really burnt when they weighed in one time and later it was normal.

I loved Andy's line about never losing anything.

9/26/2008 2:00:10 PM

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"Wait...back up. Do you think I'm retarded?"

aaahahahahahahahahaha

9/26/2008 2:04:47 PM

^^ yeah, i think that was the week 2 or 3 weigh-in and her face was all blistered up.
I bet it might come out in a deleted scene (btw, there is already one deleted scene out http://www.officetally.com/weight-loss-deleted-scenes )

[Edited on September 26, 2008 at 2:06 PM. Reason : ./]

9/26/2008 2:05:56 PM

Dwight kicking the cake was fucking great.

9/26/2008 3:14:40 PM

also dwight telling Phyllis "...60/40" for splitting commission when he knew he was just gonna drop her off at a warehouse

lol

9/26/2008 3:19:20 PM

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"Im waiting for them to do what they did to Tim in the UK version where he got kinda power hungry after his promotion."

what? i don't think this ever happened

9/26/2008 3:23:10 PM

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"Dwight kicking the cake was fucking great."

Take that Stanley! hahaha I spit my beer up when that happened

some of you guys are too picky I loved the episode

9/26/2008 3:33:40 PM

i spit up my beer when they showed their rap video

9/26/2008 3:54:01 PM

oh man

:carlface: when michael ripped up the counting crows tickets

oh geez

9/26/2008 3:56:15 PM

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"Some of you were confused about Meredith's sunburned face. She actually had a talking head that explained it all. It was very funny, and hopefully you will see it on deleted scenes on nbc.com."

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=32799810&blogID=436251929

9/26/2008 8:45:31 PM

haha

Just saw this, not sure if it has already been posted

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdViu6qw0Ec&eurl=http://freejennanow.com/

9/26/2008 9:09:58 PM

yeah I'd say fire the editing dept on that episode, some of the deleted scenes were really funny and would have made things a lot less confusing, like what the hell happened to Meredith's face, or setting up the ending with Toby a bit better. Also the deleted scene between Dwight and Jim about his chair was absolutely hilarious and Ryan dropped a 'that's what she said' in it too. All of that stuff is classic Office.

And then there were those occasions where Michael for no reason lost or gained his goatee with little explanation, at first I thought it was intentional but it seems like just bad forced editing after seeing the whole thing through.....

[Edited on September 27, 2008 at 12:54 AM. Reason : but Dwight kicking the cake bit was probably my favorite part]

9/27/2008 12:53:35 AM

here's the 2nd deleted scene
http://www.lifeintheoffice.com/2008/09/27/weight-loss-2nd-deleted-scene-up/

includes explanations for merideth's face, a lead-in to Toby's zip-line accident, and a "that's what she said" from Ryan.

9/27/2008 12:19:02 PM

What did Jim do to make Michael threaten to suspend him then take away his chair

9/27/2008 12:56:06 PM

^Jim's advice not working out with the new hot HR chick is my guess

9/27/2008 1:01:14 PM

bump for tonight.

TV listings online are saying that the Vice-presidential debate is going to be on instead of the show.

10/2/2008 6:23:06 PM

why would you bump for tonight - when clearly you saw that the VP debates are on tonight instead

10/2/2008 6:24:26 PM

WHAT THE-

I CAME HERE LOOKIN FOR THE OFFICE

NOW I'M LOOKIN FOR A FIGHT!

10/2/2008 6:34:03 PM

lol my bad

i was pumped up for another new episode so i was hoping they would be airing it at a later time.

10/2/2008 6:49:52 PM

So The Office is on hold?

10/2/2008 9:12:13 PM

what's so hard to understand about "the debates are on tonight. wait until next week for The Office"

10/2/2008 9:22:05 PM

I've got the "debates are on tonight" part.

Still workin on the other.

10/2/2008 9:32:28 PM

when have they ever shown a new episode of any show that's been preempted by something like a presidential debate at a later time slot?

10/3/2008 8:15:08 AM

I figured the left coast would get it and I could watch it online today.

10/3/2008 11:06:39 AM

Networks cater to the east coast almost without exception

There's no way they would only show a new episode in the West

10/3/2008 11:09:47 AM

Yeah. That really worked out for Futurama. They'd always get preempted out of existence on the east coast but would show at the regular schedule in the west... and that was before TV was easily accessible on the net.

10/3/2008 11:25:54 AM

I was wondering the same thing
http://www.officetally.com/gene-stupnitsky-answers-weight-loss-questions

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"Q. Give us some behind-the-scenes details on the Jim/Pam proposal scene. I’ve heard that the gas station was fake, the rain was fake, even the traffic was fake! Do tell! Gene: I don’t think any scene in our show’s history went through as much prep as that one. You wouldn’t believe how much time, money and planning went into making that proposal look casual, authentic and unpremeditated. The original plan was to film this at the actual Merritt Parkway on the East coast — but there were just too many variables. So it was decided, after about a dozen meetings, that we would –- at considerable cost –- recreate the Merritt Parkway in the parking lot of a Best Buy in Los Feliz, California. I guess that’s what they call “Hollywood magic.” So led by our most excellent production designer, Michael Gallenberg, and a small army of crew members, a fake gas station was built, complete with rain machines and stunt drivers driving in figure eights to recreate the feel of a highway. After filming, we sent that footage to a company that does special effects and they covered up the California mountains with those tall East-coast type trees that you now see in the background. We knew that we had only one chance to get it right. So, yes, while the gas station, traffic and rain were all fake, the sentiment was all real. And I have to add, driving onto the set with Greg Daniels and Stephen Merchant (he was in town directing an upcoming episode), I couldn’t believe what a big production our little show had become. It was, to say the least, pretty spectacular to see hundreds of crew members and tons of 18-wheelers there to film what amounted to about 45 seconds or so of footage. Hope you guys were happy with the results. "

10/6/2008 10:12:56 PM

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" We knew that we had only one chance to get it right. So, yes, while the gas station, traffic and rain were all fake, the sentiment was all real."

Does not compute. Sounds like the only thing left to vary was the actors and their sentiment. You could do multiple takes!

10/7/2008 10:19:04 AM

yeah, i didn't understand why they only had one take, if the whole thing was staged in a Best Buy parking lot with fake drivers, fake rain, etc.

as I was watching that scene, though, i was wondering:
1) how strange it would be to have an office camera-man follow you to a rest stop in the middle of PA, while apparently wearing wireless mics the whole time (we discussed the non-believability of the documentary aspect of The Office in recent seasons in a previous thread. I'm over it now, i don't care how unrealistic it is. in the same light, how strange it would be for a documentary crew to follow Pam into a New York classroom to film her while in class, in the dorm, etc)

2) how they actually got that shot, because it really looked like a real rest stop, and it would be a real pain in the ass to get it while it was raining, and closing the rest stop, and all the traffic and everything

10/7/2008 10:24:34 AM

Seems like there would be a million real gas stations that they could shoot at rather than build the whole set from scratch

10/7/2008 10:25:18 AM

from his description, it sounds like they wanted to make it true-to-life. They had a specific station in Western PA they wanted to film or emulate. I guess maybe it's a notable stop or exit if you drive between NYC and Scranton

Plus, they wanted to have it raining, so unless they could somehow set up and film in the rain, it would be probably impossible to bring in rain machines to a real interstate and gas station

10/7/2008 10:38:01 AM

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"yeah, i didn't understand why they only had one take, if the whole thing was staged in a Best Buy parking lot with fake drivers, fake rain, etc. "

I don't think he meant they only had one take. I think he meant they only had one day, one setup to get it right. They didn't want to or couldn't utilize all those resources again the next day if they got to the editing room floor and wanted to change a detail or two. I'm guessing they shot multiple takes for that reason.

10/7/2008 11:10:06 AM

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"they wanted to make it true-to-life"

I don't know why I find that funny.

10/8/2008 8:27:35 AM

bttt for tonight!

10/9/2008 12:09:05 PM

I don't hate Ryan, but I find it quite hilarious he is now secretary until pam gets back. I'm sure Jim will give him hell for a while, should be good.

10/9/2008 4:59:05 PM

she is supposed to be gone for 5 months and the first episode spanned roughly 3 months, right?

so pam won't be back this episode?

10/9/2008 5:41:08 PM

I don't know, its possible that she will be back this episode, maybe they will just have this be the end of the summer. Personally I would rather they keep Ryan there till the end of this episode, and have this one end with Pam coming back. Ryan is such a douche bag right now, its hilarious.

10/9/2008 6:11:21 PM

yeah, i would like ryan to stay too. i'm just a little confused on the timeline.

10/9/2008 6:38:33 PM

The timeline is nothing like heroes. Its not that complicated.

10/9/2008 7:31:04 PM

NO JOKES ALLOWED

10/9/2008 7:51:03 PM

is there a new one on tonight? there is fucking baseball on right now, bottom of the 2nd so it's not gonna be over any time soon...

never mind i'm an idiot

[Edited on October 9, 2008 at 8:55 PM. Reason : ]

10/9/2008 8:54:23 PM