BigHitSunday Dick Danger 51059 Posts user info edit post |
peek-a-boo
9/24/2008 10:45:43 PM |
Ragged All American 23473 Posts user info edit post |
9/24/2008 10:46:53 PM |
BigHitSunday Dick Danger 51059 Posts user info edit post |
LMAO o shit that is gold
[Edited on September 24, 2008 at 10:47 PM. Reason : c] 9/24/2008 10:47:25 PM |
fjjackso All American 14538 Posts user info edit post |
word on the street is gunzz had something to do with 9/24/2008 10:49:17 PM |
CeilingCat All American 1222 Posts user info edit post |
TOTEM POLE TRASH INJUNS 9/24/2008 10:50:04 PM |
Bweez All American 10849 Posts user info edit post |
dude, chinaman is not the preferred nomenclature. 9/24/2008 10:59:40 PM |
Air Half American 772 Posts user info edit post |
hahhaa that picture is awesome 9/24/2008 11:50:12 PM |
Mr Grace All American 12412 Posts user info edit post |
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/09/bill-clinton-do.html 9/25/2008 9:05:04 AM |
djeternal Bee Hugger 62661 Posts user info edit post |
Obama and Biden are speaking in Greensboro on Saturday morning. Anyone interested? 9/25/2008 9:06:00 AM |
IRSeriousCat All American 6092 Posts user info edit post |
^i'd be willing to go to that.
McCain also now wants to cancel the VP debate for a date yet to be determined.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/ 9/25/2008 9:19:51 AM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Clinton did not do anything to help us get to where we are. This is a flat out lie. When he left office the country was in arguably the best position it's ever been in." |
ummm... manufacturing started to decline in 1997. Many companies were failing by 2000.
And... .com burst was not a political party's fault. Recession from 9/11 was not a political party's fault. Housing market/lending market failure was not a political party's fault (that was companies giving out loans, etc to people that could never afford it.9/25/2008 9:44:44 AM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Clinton did not do anything to help us get to where we are. This is a flat out lie." |
ahem, who signed the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act?9/25/2008 9:48:42 AM |
Spontaneous All American 27372 Posts user info edit post |
Oh fuck. 9/25/2008 10:12:55 AM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "ummm... manufacturing started to decline in 1997. Many companies were failing by 2000." | This is called globalization and it's caused by low energy prices and the decreasing costs of telecommunications. Please tell me some way any person could stop this from happening.
Quote : | "ahem, who signed the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act?" |
ahem, who passed the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act? It's very easy to say that Clinton should have stopped this in retrospect. But how was he supposed to know that 10 years down the road, after numerous missteps by the Republican Congress, Bush administration, and Federal Reserve to prevent this from happening, that this bill shouldn't have been repealed? He couldn't. It's very possible that nothing would have happened if all these other steps would have been taken to prevent it. But your example is more like trying to blame the Vietnam War on something Eisenhower did than anything else and it's weak.
Republicans have had Congress for 12 out of the past 14 years. Republicans have had control of the executive branch for the past 8 years. They are to blame. There is no way to deny this. If you vote for them again, you're failing to use logic.9/25/2008 10:54:48 AM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
yeh, Bill Clinton was the one to ensure the pasage and implementation of NAFTA, which killed manufacturing....
[Edited on September 25, 2008 at 10:56 AM. Reason : .] 9/25/2008 10:56:44 AM |
wolfpackgrrr All American 39759 Posts user info edit post |
And Bush has a hard on for CAFTA so it's something both parties seem to agree on. 9/25/2008 11:00:28 AM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
Those jobs were never going to stay in America. You're beating a dead horse and you're changing the subject. 9/25/2008 11:00:34 AM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
yeh, they were never going to stay in America because of Clinton's "great economy" 9/25/2008 11:03:55 AM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
No. They were never going to stay in America. Period.
The rise of China as an industrial superpower along with low energy prices and increased efficiency in telecommunications meant that there was no way these companies could compete in America. If anything, it did more to keep jobs here as trade treaties are protectionism by nature.
Whether that is a good thing is a completely different issue. But as I've told you before... you're beating a dead horse and you're wrong. 9/25/2008 11:12:42 AM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
well if you can blame bush for private companies giving out loans to people that couldn't never afford them, i'll blame clinton for killing the manufacturing market. 9/25/2008 11:14:22 AM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
Look. The Republican Congress failed to provide adequate oversight of the market. That's a fact.
Quote : | "well if you can blame bush for private companies giving out loans to people that couldn't never afford them, i'll blame clinton for killing the manufacturing market." |
That's not how it works. You CAN be wrong twice and you are.9/25/2008 11:19:12 AM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
yeh, because there are no democrats in congress right now, are there? 9/25/2008 11:21:22 AM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
are you retarded. you can blame bush for all the deregulation that helped cause the collapse.
Congress is the ones who decided to deregulate the banking industry allowing for those sub-prime loans to be granted to folks who could not afford them.
Bush had 6 years with a Republican congress and the Dem-controlled Congress has not been in power long enough to have this big of an effect on the economy. The economic collapse is based on a collapse of the lending industry. They were making their faulty loans while Republicans still controlled Congress.
Sorry but the buck stops with Republicans on this one. It's their failed ideology at work: degegulation & tax breaks for the wealthy which were both supposed to spurr the economy, right?
Deregulation goes back to Clinton's second term but it was a Republican congress including McCain that pushed it through. 9/25/2008 11:24:47 AM |
IRSeriousCat All American 6092 Posts user info edit post |
there wasn't a sizable portion enough to defeat something that the republicans wanted passed until 2006. This evident by almost everything that was passed from 2001 - 2007. There were plenty of republicans in office at the time of clinton. in fact, they are the legislative side, so anything legislative originates with them and clinton gives the rubber stamp once he sees a majority vote as a sign of the will of the people. its actually good for a president to do that everyone once and a while, although it would be forgotten about given our current administration. 9/25/2008 11:24:54 AM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Deregulation goes back to Clinton's second term" |
so if a company makes stupid decisions, it's the President's fault?
[Edited on September 25, 2008 at 11:26 AM. Reason : .]9/25/2008 11:25:50 AM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "but it was a Republican congress including McCain that pushed it through
" |
quote the whole sentence
[Edited on September 25, 2008 at 11:27 AM. Reason : sorry, leave out the name calling]9/25/2008 11:26:34 AM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
I WAS POINTING OUT WHO STARTED IT, IDIOT. 9/25/2008 11:27:08 AM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
THE REPUBLICAN CONGRESS STARTED IT. ARE YOU THAT DUMB
see, i can type in big words too9/25/2008 11:27:53 AM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
but you dumbfucks have been blaming Presidents, up until a few posts ago. I was continuing with your trend. and did Clinton not have veto power or something? 9/25/2008 11:29:14 AM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
You lose dude. You lose. Just stop. 9/25/2008 11:31:32 AM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
oh ok. thanks. 9/25/2008 11:32:05 AM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
Clinton signed a lot of bad Republican legislation that, were it not for the scandal, he could have and should have vetoed.
The scandal broke in January of 1998
I don't know the dates of the legislation involved in the current economic scandals, and I won't deny that Clinton was in the pocket of big business than I would have liked.
We also need to remember that he was a pretty weak president during much of his second term, and that he was also fighting the war in Kosovo that was very unpopular with the Republicans. 9/25/2008 11:35:00 AM |
TKE-Teg All American 43409 Posts user info edit post |
why is Chit Chat overrun with this stuff? 9/25/2008 11:36:35 AM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
haha, mcCain shafted Letterman last night and got caught in a lie said he was on his way to DC and couldnt do the show yesterday but someone alerted Dave that he was right down the street w/ Katie and Letterman cut to a live clip of the interview w/ couric .. lols all around. funny stuff
[Edited on September 25, 2008 at 2:06 PM. Reason : sadf]
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wolfpackgrrr All American 39759 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Because it's a presidential election year 9/25/2008 7:32:24 PM |
Str8BacardiL ************ 41753 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "“We don’t need presidential politics involved in this,” Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said, accusing McCain of saying nothing substantive in the meeting. “John McCain hasn’t voted in the Senate since sometime last April. And I say very sincerely that he has done nothing since he’s been here the last few hours to help this process.”" |
whoa9/25/2008 9:38:52 PM |
Str8BacardiL ************ 41753 Posts user info edit post |
this whole maneuver was epic fail 10/27/2008 2:04:02 AM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
as was the campaign in general 10/27/2008 2:05:22 AM |