two fat

9/28/2008 7:03:57 PM

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"it kind of blows my mind that people will just keep eating unhealthy things, pushing their weight to an unhealthy level and even though their clothes don't fit and they have to buy new clothes (or clothes with elastic waistbands) they still don't realize what is going on."

when i moved from california to north carolina, i was so depressed that i just turned to food. i ate non-stop and drank nothing but apple juice. the fatter i got, the more depressed i became and it turned into a vicious cycle.

then i had to lose it all and that was a bitch.

9/28/2008 7:12:09 PM

oh i completely understand the cycle people can find themselves in.

i think america is just too fascinated with the "quick fix." people go on diets and then they don't work after a few days, they get frustrated, and all of a sudden nothing works for them.

9/28/2008 7:31:18 PM

i definitely agree with you there.

9/28/2008 7:43:20 PM

i mean i'm not going to lie, when i have gained weight in the past, i want it gone immediately.

this is why i'm on the fence with the choice of who gets the gastric bypass/lap band surgery. obviously there are guidelines in place, which there should be. but i have seen a number of shows dedicated to it where the person is like "well i'm getting lap band so i'll change my habits after the surgery." and then it's hard for them after the surgery to live a healthier lifestyle because they can't eat the foods they once loved. i've also seen and read stories where the people completely change and adapt. i think while there are weight and health guidelines in place, doctors and insurance companies aren't completely looking into the person's psychological mind set. their journey of doing the surgery is more than physical and i don't think some people realize that (especially the increasing number of teens getting it done).

9/28/2008 7:49:02 PM

I've lost 85lbs in 9 months, she couldn't hold a torch to me

9/28/2008 9:19:55 PM

What diet do I go on to GAIN weight?

Teh drs say I need to

9/28/2008 9:24:34 PM

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"this is why i'm on the fence with the choice of who gets the gastric bypass/lap band surgery. obviously there are guidelines in place, which there should be. but i have seen a number of shows dedicated to it where the person is like "well i'm getting lap band so i'll change my habits after the surgery." and then it's hard for them after the surgery to live a healthier lifestyle because they can't eat the foods they once loved. i've also seen and read stories where the people completely change and adapt. i think while there are weight and health guidelines in place, doctors and insurance companies aren't completely looking into the person's psychological mind set. their journey of doing the surgery is more than physical and i don't think some people realize that (especially the increasing number of teens getting it done)."

I have a friend who had the bypass surgery.

It was a LONG process to get it done, including psych evals. Also, in the time leading up to the surgery, she actually had to go on a more stringent diet than post-surgery.

And sometimes she'll send me threads from a forum for weight-loss surgeries. With questions about eating some of those taco bell bowls. Which, apparently, have twice the volume of food a pouch can accomodate; never mind what a nutritional disaster they are. And when other posters say "Girl, you need to get a grip. This could KILL you!" (apparently, it can rip your pouch, and lead to a NASTY infection?), the OP in the particular thread I'm talking about here wigged out, went on a diatribe about how shitty she feels for being fat and about how no one else understands and if she were perfect, she'd have never needed the surgery to start with

So, yeah, those guidelines and thorough evaluations are so totally necessary. I'm really glad for my friend that she's losing weight and is happier and healthier now; she's really gotten more interested in fitness and eating well, and I don't think that would have happened, except for the surgery. I mean, she genuinely gets excited about going to PE class sometimes. That would have never happened without the weight loss caused by the surgery, and without the education and motivation to take care of her 'new' body.

And then on the other hand...you have my mother, who took the bull by the horns this year, at 43, and has lost 40? 50? 60? lbs this year - 20.5 in the past 8 weeks. By contrast, my friend is 22.

I refuse to ever let it get to that point. Late last year, I realized that I was getting close to a point of no return. I became paralyzed, in terms of addressing it: If I failed to begin to lose weight, I'd become demoralized, and quickly make things worse, and then might never recover from it. I was afraid of addressing it. Fortunately, my bf and I broke up, and I resolved to lose weight and get in shape so I could keep getting laid (we got back together, but the resolve, motivation, and healthier habits are still there ). If we hadn't, I'd be in the same habits and patterns.

As far as teenagers getting the surgeries: the onus for making their kids healthy is on the parents. Through diet and exercise. With teenagers, it's not too late to help them undo what has brought them to that point; to do anything less is to fail your kids. Don't ask me how, as my mother and I are trying desperately to help my sister lose a bunch of weight, but I think we're making progress. A month ago, my sister refused to exercise, and would eat 8oz cheese in one sitting. Now, she pesters my parents to go bike riding, and she has begun walking longer distances, and no longer balks at exerting herself.

[Edited on September 28, 2008 at 9:32 PM. Reason : ldfjk]

9/28/2008 9:30:03 PM

I don't like fatties

and I don't especially care for the whole vegan thing.

but vegans > fatties any day of the week.

9/28/2008 10:38:39 PM