^^Before a McCain event, he had a guy out there yelling about Barack HUSSEIN Obama

It's not lying. you are just playing the ostrich role.

oh, and tu quoque

[Edited on October 7, 2008 at 2:11 PM. Reason : .]

10/7/2008 2:10:40 PM

Obama has been playing the race card since long before it was just him and Hillary left in the primaries. That is a fact that even you cannot deny.

And someone was yelling Obama's middle name? OH MY GOD HOW DARE THEY

tu quoque right back at you you fucking hypocrite

[Edited on October 7, 2008 at 2:12 PM. Reason : .]

10/7/2008 2:12:08 PM

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"it would fire up the Republican base."

that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

10/7/2008 2:12:54 PM

^^I don't think you understand what tu quoque means.

Also, the McCain camp is doing enough to put the dots out there and let idiots like you connect them. i'm done discussing anything with you. Everything resorts back to either a non sequitor, ad homimen, tu quoque, or strawman. You are a dilettante and a sophist.

10/7/2008 2:14:56 PM

^ I thought you liked Dilettantes.

In fact, you kinda created a whole ill-conceived thread about how great they are. Is it an insult now?
http://thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=340357

PS* The thread should be revived. The whole thing is kinda funny in its self-importance.

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"Instead, these elites of Europe preferred to be dilettantes. Out of this cultural backdrop, the Salon society of pre-revolutionary France evolved. The Salons of Paris were one of the main contributors to the collapse of totalitarian France and the installation of republican government. In a Parisian Salon individuals were not separated based upon title or money, only one’s ability to carry forth conversation (side note: the novel evolved from Salon conversation). The egalitarian mindset of the Salons quickly spread forth and encapsulated France leading to the Revolution. Let us return to the Dilettante."

heheh.

[Edited on October 7, 2008 at 2:21 PM. Reason : ]

10/7/2008 2:16:49 PM

good, stfu then, you're ignorant to the fact that Obama's the presidential frontrunner because he has played the race card over the last year, and your response to me pointing that out is to play the race card and perpetuate the trend...well you are certainly sticking to your marching orders

rule #1, whenever someone points out a flaw with obama, continue to assert that that person is a racist

clearly there are two types of people in america...educated people who realize obama is awesome, and dumb white racists...there are no other types of people or opinions, just those two...

10/7/2008 2:18:44 PM

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"it would fire up the Republican base. "

aahahaha, that's fuckin GREAT!!!!

because most of the staunch MAVERICK republicans HATE black people!

p.s. - i know it makes no sense to refer to a group of mavericks working towards a common goal unless you're talking about the team in dallas. These fuckin republicans are just stupid

10/7/2008 2:23:49 PM

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"^ I thought you liked Dilettantes. In fact, you kinda created a whole ill-conceived thread about how great they are. Is it an insult now? http://thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=340357 PS* The thread should be revived. The whole thing is kinda funny in its self-importance."

The dilettantes spoken of in that thread are more refined. I have also moved away from that idea. just like I cease to be a conservative and became a liberal. but nice try bringing up a thread from 4 years ago.

you cannot deny, however, the egalitarian basis behind salon society.

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"rule #1, whenever someone points out a flaw with obama, continue to assert that that person is a racist"

no one is doing that, you ignorant bafoon.

[Edited on October 7, 2008 at 2:25 PM. Reason : .]

[Edited on October 7, 2008 at 2:26 PM. Reason : .]

10/7/2008 2:24:28 PM

y'all betta kiss my ass

10/7/2008 2:25:00 PM

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"no one is doing that, you ignorant bafoon."

damn nutsmackr i didn't realize you were a complete mental retard...not only are you playing the race card like Obama's campaign has been doing the last year, but you don't even realize you're playing the race card...wow you are dumb

10/7/2008 2:27:24 PM

what does Obama's middle name have to do with his quality of being president?

Your problem, twista, is that you hear a word and start throwing it around without even knowing what it means.

10/7/2008 2:29:01 PM

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"what does Obama's middle name have to do with his quality of being president?"

i didnt realize you werent allowed to mention a candidate's middle name...i guess its cool to talk about candidates' teenage daughters' sex lives and make fun of a war veteran for not being able to lift his arms and use a keyboard, but the minute you start telling people what someone's parents named them...oh boy THATS JUST UNCALLED FOR

your arguments are so fucking weak

10/7/2008 2:31:05 PM

10/7/2008 2:31:37 PM

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"i didnt realize you werent allowed to mention a candidate's middle name...i guess its cool to talk about candidates' teenage daughters' sex lives and make fun of a war veteran for not being able to lift his arms and use a keyboard, but the minute you start telling people what someone's parents named them...oh boy THATS JUST UNCALLED FOR "

1. It's obvious that you never watched the video in question.

2. Obama campaign never talked about the teenage daughter's sex life.

3. the obama campaign never made fun of McCain's war wounds.

4. McCain not being able to lift his arms above his shoulders has nothing to do with turning on a computer and sending an email

10/7/2008 2:33:50 PM

Wait, explain to me again how that idiot radio host shouting "Barack HUSSEIN Obama" in Cincinnatti was part of the McCain campaign.

10/7/2008 2:35:50 PM

Another individual who hasn't been paying attention. During a McCain rally in florida this weekend, the local sheriff was on stage getting the entire crowd riled up and yelling about Barack HUSSEIN Obama.

10/7/2008 2:37:40 PM

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"McCain not being able to lift his arms above his shoulders has nothing to do with turning on a computer and sending an email"

thats 100% false

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"the obama campaign never made fun of McCain's war wounds. "

this too is 100% false...they released an ad that made fun of McCain for not being able to use a computer...at the end of the ad it said "I'm Barack Obama, and I approve this message"

so once again, you're just telling flat out lies...you are so worthless

10/7/2008 2:38:59 PM

So now the local sheriff down in Florida is part of the McCain campain?

10/7/2008 2:39:09 PM

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"this too is 100% false...they released an ad that made fun of McCain for not being able to use a computer...at the end of the ad it said "I'm Barack Obama, and I approve this message" so once again, you're just telling flat out lies...you are so worthless"

How does McCain not being able to lift his arms above his shoulders have anything to do with computer literacy and ability to use a computer?

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"So now the local sheriff down in Florida is part of the McCain campain?"

When they are on stage getting ready to introduce the candidate and are a campaign surrogate, they are directly linked to the campaign.

10/7/2008 2:41:10 PM

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"How does McCain not being able to lift his arms above his shoulders have anything to do with computer literacy and ability to use a computer?"

he can't use a keyboard because of injuries sustained to his arms and shoulders, holy shit you are dense

you refuse to admit that Obama's campaign could ever do anything wrong at all...man you are so fucking clueless its pathetic

10/7/2008 2:42:47 PM

^^Now you're reaching.

Thats like saying that because Obama sat through Rev Wright's sermons where he was saying "God Damn America!", etc, Wright is directly linked to the Obama campaign.

[Edited on October 7, 2008 at 2:43 PM. Reason : 2]

10/7/2008 2:43:24 PM

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"he can't use a keyboard because of injuries sustained to his arms and shoulders, holy shit you are dense you refuse to admit that Obama's campaign could ever do anything wrong at all...man you are so fucking clueless its pathetic "

yet, he can dial a phone number, write a book, but he can't have his fingers hit some keys on a keyboard.

Do you even realize how large of logical gap that is?

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"Thats like saying that because Obama sat through Rev Wright's sermons where he was saying "God Damn America!", etc, Wright is directly linked to the Obama campaign."

It was an official McCain-Palin campaign event. the sheriff in question was an official speaker at the campaign event.

[Edited on October 7, 2008 at 2:45 PM. Reason : .]

10/7/2008 2:44:08 PM

i'm sure he physically wrote the book himself, no authors have other people transcribe their words

you sure are clueless to mccain's war injuries arent you? you claim to follow a lot of politics but you dont realize something as well known as his war injuries? doesnt make sense, but neither does most of the shit you spew from your biased mouth

10/7/2008 2:45:24 PM

so, he can't type on a keyboard, or click a mouse, but he can punch in smaller keys on a phone and make a phone call. Logical jumps twista, logical jumps.

Oh and in his interview when he said he was learning, what was that supposed to mean?

I'm getting sick of your little troll fits and crying to Duke that people are being mean to you. If you can't stand the heat, don't be such a blundering retard.

[Edited on October 7, 2008 at 2:47 PM. Reason : .]

10/7/2008 2:46:44 PM

Just so we are clear, this is what Twista is arguing

1. McCain can press smaller buttons on a phone, no problem with the war injuries

2. McCain can hold a phone up to his ear and have a conversation

3. McCain can hold a pen, no problem with the war injuries

4. McCain can write with pen, no problem with the war injuries

5. but McCain can't hunt and peck on a keyboard because of his war injuries.

10/7/2008 2:50:36 PM

nutsmackr,

This isn't new information. Here is an article from Jacon Weisberg from Slate FROM 2000. Weisberg makes it clear that even though McCain cannot physically use a computer for long periods of time, he is very "web savy".

Now STFU.

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"At 63, he is the oldest of the bunch and because of his war injuries, he is limited in his ability to wield a keyboard. But McCain's job as chairman of the Senate commerce committee forced him to learn about the Internet early on, and young Web entrepreneurs such as Jerry Yang and Jeff Bezos fascinate him. Well before he announced his exploratory committee, McCain had assimilated the notion that the Web could be vital to the kind of insurgent, anti-establishment campaign he wanted to run."

http://www.slate.com/id/74812/

[Edited on October 7, 2008 at 2:51 PM. Reason : ``]

10/7/2008 2:50:39 PM

this buffoon has no idea about mccain's war injuries yet he's still grasping for straws...his trolling is not worth anyone's time

10/7/2008 2:51:22 PM

Obviously, John McCain is more physically disabled than Stephen Hawking.

10/7/2008 2:51:51 PM

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"This isn't new information. Here is an article from Jacon Weisberg from Slate FROM 2000. Weisberg makes it clear that even though McCain cannot physically use a computer for long periods of time, he is very "web savy"."

that is not the same as, can't do it period and the reason why McCain admits himself he doesn't know how to turn on a computer or send an Email.

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"1. McCain can press smaller buttons on a phone, no problem with the war injuries 2. McCain can hold a phone up to his ear and have a conversation 3. McCain can hold a pen, no problem with the war injuries 4. McCain can write with pen, no problem with the war injuries 5. but McCain can't hunt and peck on a keyboard because of his war injuries."

[Edited on October 7, 2008 at 2:53 PM. Reason : .]

10/7/2008 2:52:39 PM

Shrike,

Excellent point. "OH COME ON MCCAIN CAN"T BE IN THAT MUCH PAIN!!>!>!> WHAT A LIAR!!! ARR"

10/7/2008 2:53:12 PM

nutsmackr is such a huge troll, wow its pathetic

TECHNICALLY HIS INJURIES ARENT THAT BAD, I KNOW, HE SHOULD BE ABLE TO USE THE INTERNET, BLAH BLAH

stfu with your continued ignorance...not only to you continue to disrespect the injury of a war hero, but you do it ignorantly...you should do us all a favor and stfu...we've got enough people to tow the ultra left wing line of lies without you

[Edited on October 7, 2008 at 2:54 PM. Reason : .]

10/7/2008 2:53:50 PM

Here is the Boston Globe in 2000.

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"McCain's severe war injuries prevent him from combing his hair, typing on a keyboard, or tying his shoes. "

http://graphics.boston.com/news/politics/campaign2000/news/McCain_character_loyal_to_a_fault+.shtml

HOW CAN WE ELECT A MAN WHO CANNOT COMB HIS OWN HAIR!??!?!?!?!?!??!!?

10/7/2008 2:54:41 PM

Typing on a keyboard has nothing to do with being able to turn on a computer. also, if he cannot type on a key board, why can he mash smaller buttons no a telephone?

[Edited on October 7, 2008 at 2:56 PM. Reason : .]

10/7/2008 2:55:04 PM

Treetwisa just called someone biased?

He's gotta be as dumb, if not dumber than sara palin and john mccain

Treetwista does nothing but defend mccain every day and calls someone else biased

John Mccain tells people they need to cross party lines to pass bailout as he blames obama and democrats for its initial failure in the house.

Sara Palin tells Biden and the democrats to stop looking at the past and towards the future as she keeps boasting about McCain's track record, and some bullshit he mad have done 2 years ago.

Treetwista, you and your "team of mavericks" are so mavericky with your logical fallacies

[Edited on October 7, 2008 at 3:03 PM. Reason : ]

10/7/2008 2:57:38 PM

you're a shitload dumber than mccain and palin yourself...fyi

btw no i didnt call anyone unbiased...wtf are you even talking about? nm, you're talking typical terpball nonsense

[Edited on October 7, 2008 at 3:00 PM. Reason : .]

10/7/2008 2:58:47 PM

^^^ Exactly!! He's a liar. He's been lying about his injuries for years. It isn't like one uses different muscles or parts of the body to use a keyboard than to use a cell phone. I personally hold my entire keyboard in my hand and I never have to bend my arms for long periods of time. Like wise, I dial the Moon a lot so I am typing numbers into my cell phone for hours on end.

Obviously McCain has been lying about his injuries since at least the 2000 campaign. I mean it's just obvious.



[Edited on October 7, 2008 at 3:00 PM. Reason : to nutsmacker]

10/7/2008 3:00:14 PM

Look, I don't give two shits that McCain can't/won't use a computer. That is another one of those low hanging fruit issues, like his war record, that make nice sound bytes but aren't really relevant to his candidacy.

However, suggesting that the man doesn't use a computer because he is physically incapable is just gullibility to the point of sheer stupidity. When there are people out there who can barely wiggle a finger but find ways to use a computer, I'm sure John McCain could manage if he cared to.

10/7/2008 3:02:08 PM

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"suggesting that the man doesn't use a computer because he is physically incapable is just gullibility to the point of sheer stupidity."

its like you completely ignored the articles Socks posted and decided to post this idiotic statement anyway

10/7/2008 3:03:23 PM

so, he can't turn on a computer then hunt and peck at the keys, but he can mash smaller buttons on a phone and use a phone. Also, once returning from being a POW he was capable of getting back into a jet airplane and flying that.

2 and 2 don't add up.

10/7/2008 3:04:46 PM

^^It's like you take everything you read at face value without thinking about it logically for 2 whole seconds.

10/7/2008 3:07:15 PM

^ John McCain is a liar, because Dr. Shrike is SURE that you could still use a computer with the injuries John McCain sustained as a POW. He has been lying to reporters about this for years and it took Dr Shrike and the folks at Daily Kos to figure it out.

10/7/2008 3:09:06 PM

how do you explain his ability to do a more physically demanding task of flying an airplane after returning from being a POW?

10/7/2008 3:10:12 PM

^ are you suggesting that McCain's injuries have only gotten worse with time??? Like how I primarily injured my knee in high school but only later got arthritis in it? THAT'S ABSURD!!

[Edited on October 7, 2008 at 3:12 PM. Reason : ``]

10/7/2008 3:12:11 PM

how do you explain away his ability to dial phone numbers?

10/7/2008 3:13:01 PM

^ I can't. Like I said. He's a liar. I know when John McCain calls The Moon he is dialing the number for hours on end, similar to the ammount of time I use my computer. Also, his cell phone can't fit in my palm. It only fits on my desk so he has to raise my arms to reach it or stand over it.

All of which, is again, very easy for him because we all know he is lying about his war injuries.

[Edited on October 7, 2008 at 3:20 PM. Reason : ``]

10/7/2008 3:15:42 PM

I always sit with my keyboard hovering above my head.

10/7/2008 3:18:58 PM

^ which is exactly why McCain can't tie his shoes. Because he can't reach above his head.....

[Edited on October 7, 2008 at 3:21 PM. Reason : ``]

10/7/2008 3:20:49 PM

John McCain has fucked up at nearly everything he's done his whole life. Many people just like him for some reason, which is why he's a politician. All that war hero nonsense is rubbish, he sucked and still sucks at his job(s).

10/7/2008 3:21:44 PM

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"^ which is exactly why McCain can't tie his shoes. Because he can't reach above his head....."

There must be an area between the top of mccain's head and his feet taht he is capable of doing tasks. If not, then he must be on some super powerful drugs, maybe he got them from his wife.

10/7/2008 3:24:08 PM

^ which must include using a keyboard such that he has been lying for years about not being able to use a keyboard???

10/7/2008 3:30:29 PM