I'm walls1441 and i condone the use of page 2.

10/8/2008 1:32:46 PM

Excellently said Walls.

10/8/2008 1:33:32 PM

you're contradicting yourself. Your claims are not possible to work in this new age of media. If they were true the real talent would be discovered on myspace and youtube and become so popular that the record companies would eventually sign them. This happens so today more than ever, the best talent is discovered. If you are good you can put yourslef out there and be found and if enough people like you you will be signed.

Pink is an awful example. She today is nowhere near as big as the beatles in their day. That was just an example for you to pick for the benefit of your argument and was awful.

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"It's not that the artists were good and the record label made them suck...It's that they sucked to begin with and the record company loved them anyway. "

If you're going to argue that people in general don't have talent anymore fine I might even agree witih you but if you're somehow trying to argue a notion that the best music nobody ever knows about then thats another story and you are exactly what I'm talking about.


Also keep in mind that we are in the future era where music has moved more towards digital creation and studio instruments insteead of manual music so if your mind is still operating on an old time scale you may have a hard time and get confused


[Edited on October 8, 2008 at 4:56 PM. Reason : producers have a lot more of talent now. i guy can sit down and make a whole song on the computer]

10/8/2008 4:52:30 PM

I think part of the reason people hate pop music is that it is heavily produced, analogous to CGI in movies, and the artists themselves really don't have a lot to say. The subjective trait "heart and soul" is missing from today's musical art.

10/8/2008 5:06:11 PM

well said.

10/8/2008 5:07:01 PM

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"Also keep in mind that we are in the future era where music has moved more towards digital creation and studio instruments insteead of manual music so if your mind is still operating on an old time scale you may have a hard time and get confused"

What the fuck?

Stop. Just stop it.

10/8/2008 5:13:48 PM

My favorite Something Corporate songs are "drunk girl" and "straw dog".

10/8/2008 5:18:22 PM

This thread is bananas.
B-A-N-A-N-A-S

10/8/2008 5:19:29 PM

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": producers have a lot more of talent now. i guy can sit down and make a whole song on the computer"

And there my friends is the problem. digital music, devoid of emotion.

that's like building a robot that could play every famous guitar solo as programmed in note by note, would it sound good? no. the sublte nuances in the playing style is what makes a really good guitarist, well, really good.

10/9/2008 12:10:05 AM

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"Also keep in mind that we are in the future era where music has moved more towards digital creation and studio instruments insteead of manual music so if your mind is still operating on an old time scale you may have a hard time and get confused"

What the fuck?

Stop. Just stop it.

10/9/2008 12:22:29 AM

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"the Elvi"

10/9/2008 12:39:59 AM

They can't all be SLAYER.

10/9/2008 12:41:09 AM

if record companies are all that and a bag of chips, how come many established artists are getting out of their record deals as soon as possible and releasing stuff independently?

10/9/2008 1:53:37 AM

because they want a very small amount of people to hear their music

10/9/2008 2:09:39 AM

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"that's like building a robot that could play every famous guitar solo as programmed in note by note, would it sound good? no. the subtle nuances in the playing style is what makes a really good guitarist, well, really good."

you must not be familiar with the hi tech production software but there are millions more nuances with computers than instruments. and it sounds better because it is independent of friction, instrument wear and tear, finger tiring and anything else that may dequalitize the sound. kind of like how people who cant sing at all can sound good. now imagine how much better a great singer can sound.

10/9/2008 9:58:31 PM

You can't create a computer that is culturally relevant on an infinite basis.

10/9/2008 10:04:30 PM

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"you must not be familiar with the hi tech production software but there are millions more nuances with computers than instruments. and it sounds better because it is independent of friction, instrument wear and tear, finger tiring and anything else that may dequalitize the sound. kind of like how people who cant sing at all can sound good. now imagine how much better a great singer can sound."

You sir, are very obviously not a musician. This is the root of your problem.

10/9/2008 10:27:12 PM

His language suggests that he is nothing more than a producer. He discovered Audacity one day and dedicated his life to "music".

10/9/2008 10:28:59 PM

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"His language suggests that he is nothing more than a producer. He discovered Audacity one day and dedicated his life to "music"."

Yeah, after reading a lot of what he's written in here, I came to the same conclusion. That or he may own some instrument and 'play' it, but not actually get the whole music part.

[Edited on October 9, 2008 at 10:32 PM. Reason : .]

10/9/2008 10:31:48 PM

Or, and I know I might be reaching a bit here, he is a complete fucking moron.

10/9/2008 10:37:55 PM

Ronny wins.

10/9/2008 10:39:11 PM

Indeed.

10/9/2008 11:12:31 PM

Either you're all fools that fell for a diabolical troll or wethebest really has no idea what he's talking about when it comes to music, writing, and business. Either way, your efforts are in vain and I suggest we all adopt the Ronny approach. I'll begin:

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"The reason why I hate corporate music is that most chord progressions seem to be based off of Pachelbel's Canon in D. Also, contemporary music does not employ true thirds harmony, which is becoming increasingly important to me."

...seriously?

10/10/2008 5:15:51 AM