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"This is like playing 6 degrees to Kevin Bacon, the corruption version. I bet any one of us is connected by 6 degrees or less to the current financial crisis, a 60's radical, or a group engaging in voter fraud."

My dad knows Braney Frank's family, which I guess means I'm responsible for the bailout bill being passed.

10/9/2008 3:47:33 PM

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"I work for ACORN currently."

*GASP*

He's a MEMBER of ACORN!!!1

GET HIM!!

[grabs pitchfork and torch]

10/9/2008 4:10:05 PM

Why isn't GoldenViper in prison right now???

btw Abraham Lincoln stayed at my great great great grandfather's farm in Illinois once. So I basically freed the slaves.

10/9/2008 4:15:07 PM

My mom's third cousin invented the disco light floor, so you can blame disco on me.

10/9/2008 4:28:30 PM

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"Folks would register people repeatedly to meet quota, but that had nothing to do with politics."

Most of what I've read supports this explanation. So I'm not too concerned that people are actually going to vote under these extra registrations.

And let's be honest, the Dallas Cowboys should be registered to vote in every district in every state. They're America's team!!! I mean, TO's opinion alone is worth at least 100 votes...

10/9/2008 4:34:49 PM

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"eyedrb, first off, we don't know that ACORN or any other organization has committed voter fraud (yet--they very well could be engaged in it right now). "

Bridget, You are aware that in vegas when authorities raided the ACORN office they found evidence.

State authorities on Tuesday raided an organization that registers low-income people to vote, alleging that its canvassers falsified forms with bogus names, fake addresses or famous personalities.

The secretary of state's office launched an investigation after noticing that names did not match addresses and that most members of the Dallas Cowboys appeared to be registering in Nevada to vote in November's general election.


"Some of these (forms) were facially fraudulent; we basically had the starting lineup for the Dallas Cowboys," Secretary of State Ross Miller said. "Tony Romo is not registered to vote in Nevada. Anyone trying to pose as Terrell Owens won't be able to cast a ballot."

Agents with the secretary of state and state attorney general offices served a search warrant on the headquarters of the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, or ACORN, at 953 E. Sahara Ave. shortly after 9 a.m. They seized voter registration forms and computer databases to determine how many fake forms were submitted and identify employees who were responsible.

They also sought information regarding current and past employees and managers.

"We don't know how many (falsified forms) are here; there may be two, or there may be thousands," said Bob Walsh, spokesman for the secretary of state's office.

Registration fraud typically stems from workers striving to meet their daily quota of submitted voter forms, Miller said.

10/9/2008 5:23:50 PM

the voter fraud will end up negating the voter suppression

we'll all come out even so it's all good ok

10/9/2008 5:27:56 PM

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"Typical moonbat responses: 'SO WHAT?' 'YOU TOO!' 'JUST A FEW BAD ACORNS!' 'RACIST!!!1' "

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"I warned you here about these ACORN clowns two years ago: Left-Wing Group Accused of Voter Fraud--Again! 'The nonprofit group defends itself from similar allegations nearly every election. This fall [2006], thousands of registrations turned in by ACORN are coming under scrutiny in St. Louis, Denver, Philadelphia and Columbus, Ohio.' By any means necessary--including fraud. 11/3/2006 1:20:46 PM"

message_topic.aspx?topic=442553

Obama GOTV Group and Voter Fraud

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"I don't think many of us expect perfection, but it would be encouraging if it didn't look so much like ACORN was facilitating fraud. Reports of fraudulent registrations by ACORN have come in for years, and they are legion in this cycle. There are accusations of fraud against ACORN in Connecticut, Wisconsin, and Nevada [and Ohio]. That's four states in less than one week. Barack Obama formerly represented ACORN and taught classes for their future leaders. While he served on the Board of Directors of the Woods Foundation, that group received about $200,000 from ACORN. When he began his presidential run, Obama paid ACORN more than $800,000 to help 'Get Out the Vote'--although it was not originally reported that way to the FEC. Shouldn't the practitioner of a 'new style' of politics be concerned about this lawbreaking?[/b]"

http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2008/10/obama_gotv_group_and_voter_fra_1.asp

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"Yeah, I'm sure this ^ is all just one big happy-assed accident. "

--hooksaw

http://www.rottenacorn.com/activityMap.html

[Edited on October 9, 2008 at 5:51 PM. Reason : .]

10/9/2008 5:39:56 PM

Repeating things won't make us care any more.

10/9/2008 5:47:48 PM

Hooksaw has been accused of paedophilia.

10/9/2008 5:50:09 PM

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"Typical moonbat responses: 'SO WHAT?'"

^^ Is this the best you can come up with?

[Edited on October 9, 2008 at 5:59 PM. Reason : ^ If there's any justice here at all, you'll be suspended soon. BTW, pray you never meet me. ]

10/9/2008 5:51:11 PM

This ACORN shit and all other sleazy stuff that's come out about Obama (and his wife, to be honest) makes me fucking angry about this election. If he wins....I truly do fear for our nation.

10/9/2008 6:01:36 PM

if you dont like it you can giiiiiiiiit out

10/9/2008 6:03:47 PM

Is the alleged paedophile threatening me?

10/9/2008 6:04:03 PM

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"BTW, pray you never meet me."

What the fuck? Why are you threatening people?

10/9/2008 6:05:02 PM

You want to tell us "what" then?

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"Shouldn't the practitioner of a 'new style' of politics be concerned about this lawbreaking?"

Is that what it comes down to? That Obama should speak out against ACORN? That would make you happy?

You have no evidence Obama contributed to this organization with the knowledge that they were engaging in voter fraud at that time. You have no evidence that Obama supports the actions of ACORN. You have no evidence that Obama's involvement with this organization has in any way affected his integrity as a person or his ability to run the country. You have a bunch of guilt-by-association horseshit.

10/9/2008 6:06:50 PM

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"BTW, pray you never meet me."

10/9/2008 6:15:44 PM

^ Um. . .why don't you just suspend nutsuckr for not "acting like a grown-up" until Duke gets here? Maybe some of you are cool with being accused of pedophilia and compared to spree killers and so on--but I'm not.

And if this isn't an attempt to derail a thread by nutsuckr and his cohorts, then I don't know what is. It's just more typical far-left moonbat bullshit--you'd rather attack me than address ACORN's widespread voter fraud and the Obama connection.

PS: And why are some of you assuming that I'm threatening anyone? How do you know that I won't just tell him off?

10/9/2008 6:25:39 PM

Someone explain to me why ACORN gets federal funding?

10/9/2008 6:28:58 PM

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"you'd rather attack me than address ACORN's widespread voter fraud and the Obama connection. "

Is my post invisible?

10/9/2008 6:29:11 PM

eyedrb, from your own source:

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"Registration fraud typically stems from workers striving to meet their daily quota of submitted voter forms, Miller said."

This is not cause for concern. If "Tony Romo" shows up in Nevada to vote, then we've got a problem.

Now, I agree it's incredibly irresponsible to pay just anybody to register voters. This is America...the logical end is cheating and fudging forms to meet quota by payday. Fat cats have been doing it for years to make their quarterlies look good to investors.

The fact that ACORN continued to operate with a model that would obviously inspire fake registrations does beg some questions. I mean, were they trying to get people excited about the election by making it look like tons of new voters had registered? What could possibly be the point of overseeing fake voter registrations? Maybe they thought it was worth it. If some employees get new and actual voters registered, it's okay if a couple bums end up registering the Dallas Cowboys.


And on the topic of hooksaw, I never called him a pedophile, but I've definitely commented on his perviness. Y'all remember all that shit he used to say about loving college because of the the hot, young coeds and shit? Eww, he did not pull it off. It was just creepy.

[Edited on October 9, 2008 at 6:32 PM. Reason : Creepy.]

10/9/2008 6:31:11 PM

look, it's just an accusation, just like the accusations against ACORN.

oh yeah, you'll just tell me off, that's why I better pray I never meet you.

[Edited on October 9, 2008 at 6:51 PM. Reason : .]

10/9/2008 6:50:34 PM

The fact that he's getting so defensive about it makes me suspicious.

LOCK HIM UP!!!

10/9/2008 6:56:33 PM

OMG. We now have two posters accusing Hooksaw of paedophilia

10/9/2008 7:01:51 PM

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"You have no evidence Obama contributed to this organization with the knowledge that they were engaging in voter fraud at that time."

Obama seems so clue-less when it comes to the numerous cases of corruption and shady characters involved with his associations. He seems always oblivious of the hanky panky going on all around him. Is he lying or just incredibly gullable?

[Edited on October 9, 2008 at 7:56 PM. Reason : .]

10/9/2008 7:55:45 PM

clueless and gullible.

10/9/2008 7:59:12 PM

clueless and gullible corrupt and scandalous

10/9/2008 8:49:43 PM

As long as bosses stress about meeting quota, folks will fake forms. Works about like focus on grades and cheating.

10/10/2008 12:55:21 AM

So now that hooksaw martyred himself, I guess he's done with this thread...

10/10/2008 2:35:35 AM

^


updated 4 hours, 28 minutes ago
Thousands of voter registration forms faked, officials say

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"CROWN POINT, Indiana (CNN) -- More than 2,000 voter registration forms filed in northern Indiana's Lake County by a liberal activist group this week have turned out to be bogus, election officials said Thursday. The group -- the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, or ACORN -- already faces allegations of filing fraudulent voter registrations in Nevada and faces investigations in other states. And in Lake County, home to the long-depressed steel town of Gary, the bipartisan Elections Board has stopped processing a stack of about 5,000 applications delivered just before the October 6 registration deadline after the first 2,100 turned out to be phony."

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"The forms included registrations submitted in the names of the dead -- and in one case, the name of a fast-food restaurant, Jimmy Johns. Sally LaSota, a Democrat on the board, called the forms fraudulent and said whoever filed them broke the law."

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"CNN was unable to reach ACORN officials in Gary and in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, where the group's Indiana operation is based. Offices in both cities were empty when reporters visited."

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/09/acorn.fraud.claims/?iref=hpmostpop

[Edited on October 10, 2008 at 3:15 AM. Reason : PS: ]

10/10/2008 3:02:02 AM

I love it. We've got fucking football players being registered to vote by an organization and the Obamaniacs are over here saying "it's just an allegation..." No, it's pretty much a fucking FACT now.

And, for the record, 6 degrees to Kevin Bacon is one thing. Hiring ACORN for GOTV is another. As is giving money to them across the years from various groups over whose finances you have control. Get your fucking heads out of Obama's ass for five seconds

10/10/2008 8:01:27 AM

This is such a bunch of shit. It's just an excuse for voter suppression. This happens in October every 4 years, we all know the drill - cry fraud while it covers for an excuse to purge millions of voters from vote rolls.

Remember that ACORN can't NOT turn in bogus applications, folks. The applications are legal documents, no matter who the fuck brings them in, and by the way, ACORN is required by law to turn them in no matter what. ACORN flags incomplete, problematic, or suspicious cards when they do turn them in, but quite often the warnings are ignored by voter officials.

I mean, do you realize that voter fraud by individuals is extremely rare, and incredibly difficult? There has never been a single proven case of anyone, anywhere, casting an illegal vote as a result of a phony voter registration, ever.

10/10/2008 8:58:13 AM

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"It's just an excuse for voter suppression."

Pretty much. While I'd love for ACORN bosses to calm down, I can't see that happening in our competitive culture. Perhaps they should change their model, but remember that they do register folks to vote. I registered many people myself. I never faked forms.

[Edited on October 10, 2008 at 11:06 AM. Reason : fake]

10/10/2008 10:58:35 AM

^^ Yeah, people don't realize it but they'd actually have been in more trouble for throwing away the forms their ex-con employees filled out. If you want to destroy a voter registration group, you give them massive numbers of fake voter registrations. It'll overwhelm their ability to effectively mark them as suspicious or incomplete and you'll get these kinds of stories.

Probably wasn't anything so sneaky though- just laziness and stupidity on their part and on the part of their employees. Registering such obviously faked forms doesn't get the democrats anything unless "Jimmy Johns" shows up and votes. So, were this to go uncaught then really the benefit to the democrats is what? Lower voter turnout than expected since the thousands of fake people didn't show up? The argument could be made that the republicans would clearly benefit from this scandal and could have easily submitted the faked registrations to accomplish it. Still, conspiracy theories are often just a trick your mind plays on you when it realizes you aren't in control of things. There was a study recently that showed that- pretty interesting stuff.

10/10/2008 11:10:29 AM

For the record, I even registered some Republicans to vote. As far I know, nobody at the office destroyed these forms.

Also, a few people register repeatedly simply because they're worried about slipping through the cracks.

10/10/2008 11:15:02 AM

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"As a freshman congressman in the early 1980s, John McCain did not disclose his connections to a controversial group that was implicated in a secretive plot to supply arms to Nicaraguan militia groups during the Iran-Contra affair. McCain did not list his service on the board of the U.S. Council for World Freedom on mandatory congressional disclosure forms asking about positions he held outside government."

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14436.html

10/10/2008 11:35:10 AM

He lied on his resume!? Guess HR is going to have to "let him go."

10/10/2008 12:21:30 PM

His lying isn't so big a deal as his being a MEMBER of a radical group. Not "pals" with a guy who is now a distinguished professor, who was a domestic terrorist when he was 8

10/10/2008 1:33:52 PM

^^^and what were his connections? Doubtful he was good friends with them.

10/10/2008 1:38:37 PM

Well, reading the article:

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"McCain joined the board of the U.S. Council soon after Singlaub founded it in McCain’s adopted hometown of Phoenix in November 1981 as the U.S. branch of the World Anti-Communist League. The league billed itself as a supporter of “pro-Democratic resistance movements fighting communist totalitarianism,” but it had also been branded by critics as a haven for extremists, racists and anti-Semites."

...

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"But McCain campaign spokesman Brian Rogers told Politico that McCain notified the group of his intent to leave the board in September 1984 because “questions were raised about its activities.” "

He was on the board for 3 years, then he supposedly decided he didn't like their activities, so he left. I don't hold it against him, and this is what I'm trying to tell you: if you want to start singling out Obama for knowing and working with a guy who was a problem 40 years prior, you should expect for people to single out McCain for much more, since he was in government so much longer.

It was a stupid, stupid move on the part of the McCain campaign, but then again, they've made so many stupid moves that it's not surprising.

10/10/2008 1:50:07 PM

Ahhhhhhhhhhh

10/10/2008 2:15:46 PM

Well, I'm going off to work for the evil organization now.

Wish me luck, y'all!

10/10/2008 2:55:37 PM

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"His lying isn't so big a deal as his being a MEMBER of a radical group. Not "pals" with a guy who is now a distinguished professor, who was a domestic terrorist when he was 8"

I can see how that makes sense, but I'm generally disappointed in politicians who weren't radicals at some point. If you're passionate and really wanted to change the world- and also young- it's hard not to be a radical for a little while at least. Passion is generally cooled with experience and age; someone who is dispassionate in youth is going to be dead inside long before they're in the ground.

10/10/2008 2:59:19 PM

Here's a pretty good look at ACORN and what has become The New "Welfare Queens" of political debate:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/10/the_new_welfare_queens.html

And a step-by-step refutation of the whole "CRA caused this" thing that has spilled over from Michelle Malkin-like blogs into serious debate:

http://ourfuture.org/blog-entry/2008094030/firing-back-cra-strikeoutexcuse-diversionstrikeout-libel

I tried to find a better non-blog source but this thread is already cluttered with National Review and Weekly Standard bloggings so I figured it was ok. Then again, all media that doesn't explicitly say "this is conservative media" is part of the grand left-wing conspiracy, right?

[Edited on October 10, 2008 at 3:53 PM. Reason : .]

10/10/2008 3:50:53 PM

Quote :

"BTW, pray you never meet me."

Ahhahahaha holy shit. Hooksaw's not 45, he's 12.

10/10/2008 4:24:39 PM

is acorn the people that get people to sign up at moore square?

10/10/2008 4:47:24 PM

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" CROWN POINT, Indiana (CNN) -- More than 2,000 voter registration forms filed in northern Indiana's Lake County by a liberal activist group this week have turned out to be bogus, election officials said Thursday."

FAUX NEWS BIAS!!!

oh wait, its from CNN...

10/10/2008 5:01:03 PM

Fraud suspected in voter sign-up
ACORN, a grass-roots organization, submitted the forms to the Durham election board
Published: Oct 10, 2008 12:30 AM

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"DURHAM - State Board of Elections officials are trying to determine whether about 100 voter registration forms submitted by a local chapter of a national grassroots organization to the Durham County Board of Elections are fraudulent. Similar accusations have been lodged across the country against the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, which goes by the name ACORN. In Durham, the claims were made last month after the group submitted about 5,000 voter registration forms to the county board of elections. 'All of a sudden, I started seeing the same names over and over again,' said Mike Ashe, county elections director. He said some forms had similar names but different addresses or dates of birth."

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/durham/story/1249557.html

[Edited on October 10, 2008 at 5:22 PM. Reason : PS: ]

10/10/2008 5:21:21 PM

i wonder if mccain put republican operatives in acorn

10/10/2008 5:23:48 PM

10/10/2008 5:28:06 PM