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10/17/2008 9:29:54 AM

I WANT GAY MARRIAGE AND THE DEATH PENALTY

OMG BREAK THE FUCKING MATRIX

10/17/2008 9:30:35 AM

OMG

10/17/2008 9:30:50 AM

^^ Change that to abortion and the death penalty and we have a total mind fuck.

10/17/2008 9:31:24 AM

GET READY TO PAY 39% BOB THE BUILDER!

10/17/2008 9:31:59 AM

but see, i'm not sure how i entirely feel about abortion.

OMG A MAN WHO DOESN'T MAKE CONCRETE DECISIONS ABOUT EVERY FUCKING THING

WHAT IS THIS?!?!

maverick.

MAVERICK. ACKNOWLEDGING GRAY AREA SINCE 2000.

[Edited on October 17, 2008 at 9:33 AM. Reason : SADFSADFAS]

10/17/2008 9:32:48 AM

WillemJoel:

Quote :

"I WANT GAY MARRIAGE"

10/17/2008 9:32:49 AM

lololol i suppose i could've put that a better way.

10/17/2008 9:34:00 AM

10/17/2008 9:34:03 AM

THERES A FORD MAVERICK!

10/17/2008 9:37:38 AM

Seriously about to get alcohol poisoning.

10/17/2008 9:39:53 AM

WillemJoel:

Quote :

"I WANT GAY MARRIAGE"

YEP, AND NEITHER CANDIDATE IS GOING TO GIVE IT TO YOU. SINCE NEITHER WILL, I'M GOING WITH THE ONE THAT WILL AT LEAST LET ME KEEP MY FIREARMS SON.

10/17/2008 9:42:13 AM

^ which is both of them

10/17/2008 9:42:43 AM

I AIN'T VOTIN, SON

10/17/2008 9:43:19 AM

Quote :

"Change that to abortion and the death penalty and we have a total mind fuck."

Why? That's my position--and it always has been. In addition, the current Democrat presidential candidate does not support gay marriage and neither did Kerry, Gore, Clinton, Dukakis, and so on.

10/17/2008 9:43:25 AM

killing an innocent fetus and killing a mass murderer are two entirely different things.

that being said, I am pro-choice, anti-abortion, and pro-death panalty. How's that for a mindfuck?

[Edited on October 17, 2008 at 9:47 AM. Reason : a]

10/17/2008 9:46:34 AM

^^i never said any of them did.

how you can not want the same rights for all people, regardless of swing, is absolutely beyond me.

10/17/2008 9:49:10 AM

^ Didn't say you said anything.

^^ And if you mean "anti-abortion," as in you'd rather that women didn't get them but you still think it's up to them and not some old guy in Washington, then I'm with you.

10/17/2008 9:51:46 AM

O I C

hooksaw is pro-choice?

[Edited on October 17, 2008 at 9:52 AM. Reason : asdffsd]

10/17/2008 9:52:03 AM

^^ my personal belief is that abortion is wrong, but I don't feel it is my place or Washington's place to force that belief on others.

[Edited on October 17, 2008 at 9:53 AM. Reason : a]

10/17/2008 9:52:54 AM

^ Well, then we agree.

^^ I've told you and others here a thousand fucking times that I'm not a Republican--but you never seem to absorb it. I guess demonizing me as some neocon bogeyman is just more fun.

10/17/2008 9:57:50 AM

Plumber John.... amiright

someone here has to know who I'm talking about... kimslackey... anyone

10/17/2008 9:59:03 AM

i've never once glanced at your posts at any length, and furthermore, never noticed any posts directed at me. forgive me for not being informed about hooksaw. i merely asked a question.

and i don't see how anything i've said demonizes you at all.

but clearly, you like to be on the defense, arbitrarily.

[Edited on October 17, 2008 at 10:01 AM. Reason : assddfsf]

10/17/2008 9:59:53 AM

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"I'm an engineer but I'm not licensed. I can practice engineering but I can't sign off on anything."

you can't practice engineering without a license; you're just working under someone else's license and supervision.

10/17/2008 10:00:31 AM

10/17/2008 10:00:39 AM

HOOKSAW IS MAVERICK AS HELL SON

10/17/2008 10:00:44 AM

And I was only reacting to your apparent shock--so you must've formed an opinion about my positions.

Enough said on this. What news of this Joe the Plumber fellow?

10/17/2008 10:02:06 AM

granted. but "shock" isn't apt. mild surprise, mayhaps.

10/17/2008 10:03:47 AM

Joe the Plumber?

10/17/2008 10:04:40 AM

He's not a licensed plummer, which doesn't matter really. Unless he actually plans on taking over the business, which I doubt he does.

He owes $1200 to the IRS

He's bald

He would benefit from Obama's tax plan UNLESS he actually does take over the business he is not licensed to take over. If he does take over the business, he stands to pay around an extra $900 a year in taxes under Obama's plan.

10/17/2008 10:05:34 AM

don't know, don't care. skimming tangentially gives me the idea that both sides are trying to use this generic man as a political tool.

10/17/2008 10:06:04 AM

joe the plumper?

10/17/2008 10:12:07 AM

10/17/2008 10:13:17 AM

Joie the Fluffer?

(NB: Not the TWW one--I don't know her.)

10/17/2008 10:14:02 AM

VENUS DE MILO THOMAS SON.

STEP OUT DA BAR SON.

10/17/2008 10:15:12 AM

Quote :

"you can't practice engineering without a license; you're just working under someone else's license and supervision."

I know I'm not practicing engineering but I do maybe 70% of the grunt work and my supervisor finishes it and signs off on it. To me, it feels like I'm doing it but legally I'm not.

And Joe the unlicensed Plumber should doing the same. Practicing under someone who is licensed. He should know what he is doing and his boss will take the hit if he approves Joe's work.

10/17/2008 10:23:42 AM

I think its complete bullshit that a ordinary guy asks a legitimit question, and is then every aspect of the guys life is probed and put on display for America to see. I mean why the fuck does it matter who asked the question....just answer it.....fuck the source of the question

10/17/2008 10:24:31 AM

Good point.


It also doesn't take away the fact that Obama wants to "spread the wealth around"

10/17/2008 10:28:25 AM

is it so wrong to ask those that can afford to pay a little extra to do so if it will benefit the country as a whole? I guess it's only "Country First" as long as the richies don't have to help pay for it.



[Edited on October 17, 2008 at 10:37 AM. Reason : a]

10/17/2008 10:30:44 AM

haha, Sam errr Joe deserved it. i guess you missed this part

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"Seems Joe, who is actually Samuel J. Wurzelbacher, told the conservative Web site familysecuritymatters.org that catching the Democratic presidential candidate off guard "was actually my intent.""

10/17/2008 10:30:59 AM

1. What's wrong with that? You might actually get an unscripted answer--for a change.

2. It worked.

3. It doesn't excuse the national attack machine that has descended on this poor guy.

10/17/2008 10:45:13 AM

it worked? sounds like it backfired because Obama was prepared to answer this guy with specifics to "his" situation and now this guys life is on display for everyone and their brother to read and hear about.

10/17/2008 10:50:28 AM

^ Um. . .no. Believe me, this scramble by Obama's thugs and his MSM press secretaries to muddy ol' "Joe" isn't an accident. The incident revealed this notion of who's "rich" in America.

Obama wants people to think it's only cartoons like the Monopoly Man, sitting around watching his ticker tape machine and lighting his cigars with hundred-dollar bills who will be taxed more heavily. "Joe" brought the face of the small business owner to the fore as a tax target--and that's not a message or an image the Obama campaign wants out there.

10/17/2008 11:02:16 AM

more like "Sam" brought out how he sucks at life and has no license and owes back taxes.
i dont owe back taxes

10/17/2008 11:05:59 AM

i too owe no back taxes

but in all fairness, i also do not have a plumbing license

10/17/2008 11:06:36 AM

more than 250k a year does make you richer than most, so yes it does highlight who is rich and how few people make a certain amount of money. i don't see what you consider to be wrong with this. If i had the option to make 280k a year and pay 900 more in taxes or make 250k a year I would take the 280k a year every time.

oh and to highlight that he would not make the 250k a year which was something that was stated and questioned earlier in this thread.

Quote :

" The company McCain said the plumber wants to buy has annual sales of $510,000, according to an analysis by Dun & Bradstreet. That makes it unlikely that Wurzelbacher's purchase would give him a taxable income of more than $200,000 -- leaving him unaffected by Obama's proposal to roll back tax breaks for those earning more than $250,000, said Steven Bankler, a certified public accountant in San Antonio, who counts plumbers and other trade professionals as his clients. Few Businesses Affected Few such small businesses have enough income to be affected by Obama's tax changes, Bankler said. One other problem in making Wurzelbacher a symbol of the overtaxed: he would pay just $773 more in taxes under Obama's plan than McCain's if he did earn an adjusted gross income of $280,000, according to an analysis by the Tax Foundation, a Washington research group that is critical of high taxes. Earning that much would make Wurzelbacher very unusual among small businesses. According to the Internal Revenue Service, most small businesses organize in ways that allow their owners to pay taxes at personal rates rather than as corporations, which impose a second layer of taxes. Almost 95 percent of 21.5 million owners of small businesses who file as sole proprietors had receipts under $100,000 in 2007. Another 4 million businesses organize as so-called subchapter S corporations, according to IRS data; less than 5 percent of them earn more than $200,000. `No Joe Six-Pack' If Wurzelbacher managed to earn $280,000, ``he's not an average Joe Six-Pack,'' said Gerald Prante, a senior economist at the Tax Foundation. "

[Edited on October 17, 2008 at 11:13 AM. Reason : facts]

10/17/2008 11:07:10 AM

^ zactly

10/17/2008 11:11:46 AM

what happened to the other thread on this?

fuck joe the plumber

10/17/2008 11:12:52 AM

^^^ Source?

10/17/2008 11:17:13 AM

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601070&sid=aqt518bNsSOs&refer=home

10/17/2008 11:26:54 AM