twoozles All American 20735 Posts user info edit post |
you people act like the socialists are going to rise up and take over the country 10/25/2008 7:08:07 PM |
zorthage 1+1=5 17148 Posts user info edit post |
BUT THEY WILL
THE REPUBLICANS SAY SO 10/25/2008 7:08:33 PM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
well with all you kids getting so liberal, its feasible 10/25/2008 7:08:43 PM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
HAHAHA! wdprice3 is stupid and wrong. HAHAHAHA! 10/25/2008 7:09:40 PM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
thanks, pothead 10/25/2008 7:09:57 PM |
ScHpEnXeL Suspended 32613 Posts user info edit post |
THEY WILL RISE UP 10/25/2008 7:09:58 PM |
twoozles All American 20735 Posts user info edit post |
i know that for me personally, when obama rules the world, i will be a rich teacher and im going to laugh at all you poor engineers 10/25/2008 7:10:37 PM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
OH NOES! HE CALLED ME A POTHEAD??? 10/25/2008 7:10:57 PM |
zorthage 1+1=5 17148 Posts user info edit post |
^^ the sad part, a rich teacher will still make less than a poor engineer
The South will... come again!
[Edited on October 25, 2008 at 7:11 PM. Reason : ?] 10/25/2008 7:11:14 PM |
twoozles All American 20735 Posts user info edit post |
stop pointing out that the only thing im good at is going to make me poor for the rest of my life you make me so sad 10/25/2008 7:12:45 PM |
zorthage 1+1=5 17148 Posts user info edit post |
dude move up north
my dad makes better than decent bank in Chicago as a teacher
and there is more to life than $
[Edited on October 25, 2008 at 7:13 PM. Reason : !] 10/25/2008 7:13:32 PM |
twoozles All American 20735 Posts user info edit post |
right there is always sex!
[Edited on October 25, 2008 at 7:14 PM. Reason : and drugz] 10/25/2008 7:14:01 PM |
chembob Yankee Cowboy 27011 Posts user info edit post |
yea, marry a rich liberal
solve both of your problems 10/25/2008 7:14:29 PM |
zorthage 1+1=5 17148 Posts user info edit post |
exactly
so don't fear when you can't afford the drugs, and have to sell sex to get them 10/25/2008 7:14:47 PM |
forkgirl All American 3102 Posts user info edit post |
I would vote for the first person that says they will audit the government.
Ask 10 questions of every program.......
Why was this program put into action? Is this program effective? Is it still necessary? Is it efficient? How much money is it spending versus needs to spend? Should a private enterprises be doing this instead of the government? Have they wasted money? Would combining this with another program save tax payers money? What is a reasonable budget for this program? Do people take advantage of this program and how can we minimize it?
BALANCE THE DAMN BUDGET. 10/25/2008 7:15:50 PM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
I would vote for that person too. Unfortunately, it will never happen. 10/25/2008 7:18:04 PM |
chembob Yankee Cowboy 27011 Posts user info edit post |
Esp. military waste. 10/25/2008 7:18:55 PM |
HockeyRoman All American 11811 Posts user info edit post |
Going with Obama because he seems to actually understand the importance of energy sustainability while valuing our natural habitats. Also, Petrobucks Palin churns my stomach when I think of the damage she would cause not only through her dogmatic puritanism but how easily she would sell out environmental oversight if it meant boosting corporate profits. 10/25/2008 7:28:31 PM |
fjjackso All American 14538 Posts user info edit post |
"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."10/25/2008 7:36:00 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
hay guyz i heard the world is gonna end if mccain wins and/or obama wins 10/25/2008 7:38:25 PM |
sylvershadow All American 7049 Posts user info edit post |
B/c obama is smart, charismatic, has some solid plans-- yes I agree with spreading the wealth-- and if he dies he won't leave an incompetent person to replace him. 10/25/2008 7:42:25 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
i'm voting mccain because i fear the combination of a democratic congress and a democratic president
[Edited on October 25, 2008 at 7:44 PM. Reason : and b/c i realize that "spreading the wealth" is called socialism]
[Edited on October 25, 2008 at 7:44 PM. Reason : i'd rather have a repub pres. and dem. congress that just doesn't get shit done] 10/25/2008 7:43:28 PM |
JCASHFAN All American 13916 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I have never been and never be a person that believes in "speak softly and carry a big stick."" | I'm a big fan. Problem is, GWB never spoke softly, or intelligently, and wore his stick out like a drunk frat boy at a sorority full of std carrying whores hopped up on roofies.
Quote : | "I don't believe that this "socialist tax plan" that everyone is freaking over is actually going to be implemented in its fullest. checks and balances." | Checked and balanced by whom, praytell? Congress will be heavily Democrat and all the political momentum in the US is moving in their direction.
Quote : | "wow you are just like over half of the McCain camp that believes obama is a socialist" | Nationalizing health care is a socialistic thing to do. Then again, it was a Republican president who practically nationalized the mortgage market.
Both candidates suck. That being said, and given that Obama will win:
1) Hopefully he'll reform Social Security. It probably needs a "Nixon goes to China" moment to fix it. 2) He understands the dynamics of the changing energy market and will certainly set us off better than would McCain and push us back towards the leading edge of the next growth market. 3) I'd like to see someone who can talk about selfless service in a way that will inspire Americans to break out of their selfish little shells.
On the other hand, were he to give into the lesser demons of the Democrat party that will be running Congress, and given his oft cited sensitivity to public opinion polls:
1) He could further damage the financial state of the United States by enacting an ill-conceived and expensive health-care system. 2) A premature departure from Iraq could set up the region for an even greater crisis. 3) As a staunch believer in the Second Amendment, I see nothing but bad things coming out of a Democrat congress / Obama presidency.
The fact of the matter is, the two single greatest problems facing the United States over the next twenty years are energy and our abysmal financial state. Obama will do a better job of adapting to this than McCain would. We'll see.10/25/2008 7:45:28 PM |
fjjackso All American 14538 Posts user info edit post |
^^^perhaps you should move to vietnam or cuba] 10/25/2008 7:45:46 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
^haha, wtf is that supposed to mean? i definitely agree with sylvershadow 10/25/2008 7:46:44 PM |
nastoute All American 31058 Posts user info edit post |
i'm voting for obama because he's the better candidate
in practically every possible way 10/25/2008 7:49:17 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
that's a matter of opinion 10/25/2008 7:50:50 PM |
nastoute All American 31058 Posts user info edit post |
an educated one 10/25/2008 7:52:15 PM |
ShawnaC123 2019 Egg Champ 46681 Posts user info edit post |
I strongly believe you should vote for president based on which candidate you'd rather have sexual intercourse with. 10/25/2008 7:52:34 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
seems like the people that like mccain dont give a shit about our standing in the world 10/25/2008 7:52:58 PM |
nastoute All American 31058 Posts user info edit post |
^^ thank god that idea doesn't go down to the VP level
[Edited on October 25, 2008 at 7:53 PM. Reason : .] 10/25/2008 7:53:13 PM |
twoozles All American 20735 Posts user info edit post |
in that case i'd have to vote for michael phelps 10/25/2008 7:56:16 PM |
sylvershadow All American 7049 Posts user info edit post |
With the recent stock market crap going on, I'm starting to think I like the idea of socialism. Not in an extreme, but look, what you have is people making money by making money for people who don't even need money. And not only that, they're creating money out of thin air. There's got to be a ceiling somewhere.
I'm starting to think that there needs to be a cap on the highest of salaries. These people have more money than they know what to do with...so what do they do with it? They invest it to make more money.
If there's a cap on the highest salaries, then maybe that can raise the lower salaries. You'd still make plenty of money if you work hard so not everyone is equal-- you'll still get paid according to society standards. 10/25/2008 7:59:06 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
no one would have much motivation to excel any longer
[Edited on October 25, 2008 at 8:01 PM. Reason : ex: if you told me i was only gonna make 30,000 i would no longer want to be an engineer] 10/25/2008 8:00:43 PM |
twoozles All American 20735 Posts user info edit post |
you both have interesting points 10/25/2008 8:02:14 PM |
sylvershadow All American 7049 Posts user info edit post |
So then you'd choose a job that made more, if you had the brains to do it.
And like any job, you start at a certain point and go up with experience.
d
[Edited on October 25, 2008 at 8:06 PM. Reason : fd] 10/25/2008 8:04:10 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
so how high would you set the cap? 10/25/2008 8:05:31 PM |
twoozles All American 20735 Posts user info edit post |
but i like being a teacher
minus the pay 10/25/2008 8:05:33 PM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
It takes a certain kind of person to make millions and billions and never need even half of what they have to hoard it way in selfishness. This is what is ruining our economy, greed. 10/25/2008 8:06:10 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
^you're right. i would blow it all on boats
[Edited on October 25, 2008 at 8:07 PM. Reason : supportin dat economy y'all] 10/25/2008 8:07:02 PM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
At least you'd be giving people an opportunity to earn your spent money,
[Edited on October 25, 2008 at 8:08 PM. Reason : /] 10/25/2008 8:07:49 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
exactly 10/25/2008 8:08:03 PM |
sylvershadow All American 7049 Posts user info edit post |
I don't know, I'm a biochemist, not a economist. I'd say, for todays economy, maybe cap at 1million /yr.
But like I said, I don't know what the magic number would be. 10/25/2008 8:08:17 PM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
Legalize pot and cap salaries! Perfect campaigning material 10/25/2008 8:09:15 PM |
tschudi All American 6195 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i'm voting for obama because he's the better candidate
in practically every possible way" |
10/25/2008 8:09:24 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
i guess it just boils down to my idea that i ought to be able to do whatever the hell i wanna do as long as it doesn't directly harm anyone else's right to do whatever the hell they wanna do.
kinda like what this country was founded on.
[Edited on October 25, 2008 at 8:10 PM. Reason : i support legalizing pot b/c with our current gov't (dem or repub) they'll tax the shit out of it!] 10/25/2008 8:10:01 PM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
Sorry, that's what the gov does, not citizens. 10/25/2008 8:11:17 PM |
PirateARRRny All American 1260 Posts user info edit post |
This country was founded by a bunch of slave rapist. Who wants to go rape some chicks???? 10/25/2008 8:11:38 PM |
exsqueezeme All American 590 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Going with Obama because he seems to actually understand the importance of energy sustainability while valuing our natural habitats. Also, Petrobucks Palin churns my stomach when I think of the damage she would cause not only through her dogmatic puritanism but how easily she would sell out environmental oversight if it meant boosting corporate profits." |
10/25/2008 8:13:18 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
^^yet they were still smarter than the tards up there now.
[Edited on October 25, 2008 at 8:13 PM. Reason : ^^^huh?] 10/25/2008 8:13:28 PM |