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wilso
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knock 'em down

[Edited on November 2, 2008 at 3:28 PM. Reason : misplaced apostrophe]

11/2/2008 3:28:11 PM

nastoute
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CLAIM APPROVED!

11/2/2008 3:28:21 PM

evan
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"police + fire protection != someone's life choices."


how is that true?

someone CHOOSES to murder someone else
someone CHOOSES to set someone's house on fire

11/2/2008 3:28:26 PM

BigEgo
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since i live in the middle of fucking nowhere, i have volunteer firemen serving me.

11/2/2008 3:28:33 PM

wdprice3
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^^come on, don't be that ignorant


THE FACT IS, IS THAT ANYONE THAT WANTS HEALTH CARE CAN ALREADY GET IT THROUGH A PRIVATE COMPANY OR THE GOVERNMENT. WHY IN THE HELL DO WE NEED TO CREATE A NEW SYSTEM?

/end rant. you liberals are too ignorant.

[Edited on November 2, 2008 at 3:30 PM. Reason : .]

11/2/2008 3:29:14 PM

arog20012001
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ok, wdprice exposed as a fool. plain & simple.

Cancer is normally not a life choice, either. But that shit can be expensive to fight.

11/2/2008 3:29:38 PM

evan
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"since i live in the middle of fucking nowhere, i have volunteer firemen serving me."


the vast majority of america does

and we don't mind coming out to save people like you who think people less fortunate than yourself should die early because of decisions they may or may not have made in their life.

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"THE FACT IS, IS THAT ANYONE THAT WANTS HEALTH CARE CAN ALREADY GET IT THROUGH A PRIVATE COMPANY OR THE GOVERNMENT. WHY IN THE HELL DO WE NEED TO CREATE A NEW SYSTEM?"


YES, EVERYONE CAN

that is not the problem, though. the problem is that it's TOO FUCKING EXPENSIVE FOR MOST PEOPLE TO GET, THEREFORE EFFECTIVELY PREVENTING THEM FROM GETTING HEALTHCARE.

11/2/2008 3:29:58 PM

tschudi
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for some reason, when wdprice3 posts i picture the fishing guy that saabturbo always posts

11/2/2008 3:30:16 PM

BigEgo
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criminals should have added fines to all of their penalties to pay for police & fire. inmates should have to pay rent

11/2/2008 3:30:55 PM

wdprice3
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^^^^ see the post above yours.

and that's all you liberals have. call people names and say they're stupid. it's all I've ever seen out of you people.

^^well you're just plain wrong. see above statement


[Edited on November 2, 2008 at 3:31 PM. Reason : .]

[Edited on November 2, 2008 at 3:32 PM. Reason : .]

11/2/2008 3:30:59 PM

nastoute
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so, he comes in bitching about privatized healthcare

and then spends the rest of the thread defending them

that's awesome...

11/2/2008 3:31:24 PM

wdprice3
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^It was more of a blog. I'm 99% sure it will get approved.

11/2/2008 3:32:26 PM

BigEgo
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"and we don't mind coming out to save people like you who think people less fortunate than yourself should die early because of decisions they may or may not have made in their life."


Many of my friends from high school and my brother were all volunteer firefighters. they do it because they enjoy it. they are just as against socialized med. and gov't handouts as i am

11/2/2008 3:32:27 PM

bmdurham
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carlface at wdprice

[Edited on November 2, 2008 at 3:39 PM. Reason : ]

11/2/2008 3:32:34 PM

evan
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this thread has basically turned into a bucket of fail.

a failbucket, if you will.

^^we do it because we enjoy helping people.

11/2/2008 3:32:45 PM

wdprice3
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"that is not the problem, though. the problem is that it's TOO FUCKING EXPENSIVE FOR MOST PEOPLE TO GET, THEREFORE EFFECTIVELY PREVENTING THEM FROM GETTING HEALTHCARE.
"


the government hands this shit out

11/2/2008 3:33:04 PM

arog20012001
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"THE FACT IS, IS THAT ANYONE THAT WANTS HEALTH CARE CAN ALREADY GET IT THROUGH A PRIVATE COMPANY OR THE GOVERNMENT. WHY IN THE HELL DO WE NEED TO CREATE A NEW SYSTEM?"


this is undeniably UNTRUE. that's what you don't get, and why I called you names. sucka.

11/2/2008 3:33:09 PM

wdprice3
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ignorance

11/2/2008 3:33:44 PM

nastoute
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"It was more of a blog. I'm 99% sure it will get approved."


why don't you shut the fuck up and suffer your allergies with some dignity

quit trying to bilk the system you sponge

[Edited on November 2, 2008 at 3:34 PM. Reason : .]

11/2/2008 3:33:58 PM

arog20012001
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"so, he comes in bitching about privatized healthcare

and then spends the rest of the thread defending them

that's awesome..."


so true.

so now you come in here calling ME ignorant? ha! i love it.

11/2/2008 3:34:58 PM

wilso
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all those millions of uninsured people, by golly, what are they waiting for?

11/2/2008 3:35:32 PM

BigEgo
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if you want to donate to allow "less fortunate" people with illnesses to receive treatment, you can do that. there's no reason someone should force someone to be charitable.

11/2/2008 3:35:41 PM

wdprice3
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I was bitching about one claim, not a whole fucking system. And as I said, it was more of a blog and it will get approved.

you fucking liberals are dense

11/2/2008 3:35:44 PM

evan
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^^^inorite?! i mean, the government's just handing it out...

^^do you remember anything from your high school civics class? that is part of how a democracy works.

^if i recall correctly, you're the one that turned it into an argument over healthcare in general in america.

11/2/2008 3:35:57 PM

nastoute
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your whining is pretty pathetic

why don't you pull yourself up my your bootstraps and fix your allergies yourself?

lazy

11/2/2008 3:36:36 PM

arog20012001
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"ANYONE THAT WANTS HEALTH CARE CAN ALREADY GET IT THROUGH A PRIVATE COMPANY OR THE GOVERNMENT"


ahahahaha! this is the best quote by wdprice from the whole thread.

there are TONS of people who HAVE health insurance, but still can't afford their premiums or the cost of chemo, surgery, medicine.... you don't see that? what country are you living in?

Either that or the insurance co. will straight up deny life saving surgeries or medicines for a VARIETY or money-saving reasons, but they justify it by calling it "pre-existing conditions" or "elective."

[Edited on November 2, 2008 at 3:41 PM. Reason : wdprice you are hilarious.]

11/2/2008 3:37:08 PM

nastoute
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it's because of people like you, wdprice3, that I have to pay higher insurance premiums

[Edited on November 2, 2008 at 3:39 PM. Reason : .]

11/2/2008 3:38:19 PM

TenaciousC
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"BUCKET

OF

FAIL"

11/2/2008 3:38:55 PM

BigEgo
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liberals are more than happy to hand out other people's money. then again, so are conservatives. fuck that

11/2/2008 3:39:04 PM

evan
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it's threads like this that make the majority of the rest of the civilized world laugh at the united states

11/2/2008 3:39:06 PM

BigEgo
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i couldn't care less about the rest of the world

11/2/2008 3:40:10 PM

nastoute
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our "liberals" are more of centrists

your "conservatives" are opportunists who only want power for power's sake

[Edited on November 2, 2008 at 3:40 PM. Reason : .]

11/2/2008 3:40:10 PM

wdprice3
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do you people really think that a huge government health care system will work here? It will be one of the most abused, backwards, and bloated programs that is nothing but a hole to throw your money into.

11/2/2008 3:40:12 PM

evan
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"It will be one of the most abused, backwards, and bloated programs that is nothing but a hole to throw your money into."


under a republican administration, yes.


p.s. your argument keeps changing as each of your points is struck down. there is something to be said for consistency, you know.

11/2/2008 3:40:44 PM

wdprice3
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under any administration. hell the "liberal" programs are the worst

nothing has been struck down, I'm simply following along as you all change it

[Edited on November 2, 2008 at 3:42 PM. Reason : .]

11/2/2008 3:41:12 PM

nastoute
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almost everyone bitches about healthare under the current system

the current PRIVATIZED system

people want something to be done

11/2/2008 3:41:43 PM

wdprice3
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everyone bitches about everything

11/2/2008 3:42:18 PM

tsavla
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http://www3.anthem.com/flashtour/AnthemCareComparison/BCBS/demo/masterMainMovieAnthem.html

i am working on something similar to this for BCBS

11/2/2008 3:42:40 PM

evan
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^^prime example: this thread

11/2/2008 3:42:43 PM

nastoute
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^^^

oh, that's an intelligent argument right there...

what other enlightened ideas do you have?

[Edited on November 2, 2008 at 3:43 PM. Reason : .]

11/2/2008 3:42:45 PM

arog20012001
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"everyone bitches about everything"


the squeaky wheel gets the grease. sucka.




[Edited on November 2, 2008 at 3:44 PM. Reason : .]

11/2/2008 3:42:59 PM

BigEgo
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"our "liberals" are more of centerists

your "conservatives" are opportunists who only want power for power's sake"


this probably comes from someone who is a liberal. the difference between liberals and conservatives lately isn't the power issue. both liberals and conservatives are power hungry. these liberals aren't balanced anymore than conservatives. the two parties are both mostly idiots and very similar other than the few issues they disagree on.

11/2/2008 3:43:46 PM

wdprice3
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just because I bitch about one claim, doesn't mean I should be for throwing out our current system and all for expanding our government to oversee a universal health care system that will fail, degrade our current health care ability, and ultimately lead to more problems than it solved.

11/2/2008 3:44:09 PM

nastoute
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"this probably comes from someone who is a liberal. the difference between liberals and conservatives lately isn't the power issue. both liberals and conservatives are power hungry. these liberals aren't balanced anymore than conservatives. the two parties are both mostly idiots and very similar other than the few issues they disagree on.
"


i'm sorry, but when one of the greatest inflences in your party is Karl Rove, you're pretty neck deep in EVIL

11/2/2008 3:44:58 PM

wdprice3
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and you're saying they are no power hungry liberals? no evil liberals?

11/2/2008 3:45:48 PM

nastoute
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not as many, no

not by an order of magnitude

11/2/2008 3:46:23 PM

arog20012001
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I NEED MY DAMN ALLERGY TESTING!

what? you think this was a pre-existing condition??? THEN WHAT AM I PAYING YOU FOR??

11/2/2008 3:46:33 PM

BigEgo
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"i'm sorry, but when one of the greatest inflences in your party is Karl Rove, you're pretty neck deep in EVIL"


Both sides have their "evil" people and their "moral high ground" people. I could argue that the most power hungry politician is Al Gore.

11/2/2008 3:47:01 PM

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set'em up

11/2/2008 3:47:05 PM

BigEgo
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^you're off. set em up

[Edited on November 2, 2008 at 3:47 PM. Reason : fds]

11/2/2008 3:47:24 PM

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