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11/11/2008 10:20:42 PM

lol were blks even allowed to go to college in the 50's? haha

11/11/2008 10:21:05 PM

yes

they just had their own colleges like Shaw and Saint Augs.

11/11/2008 10:23:25 PM

yep

and through the setbacks, we still managed to come out smarter than you
excelling at more challenging majors than PRT



pwnt so sowah

11/11/2008 10:25:43 PM

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"I personally believe that masters degrees are the least cost-effective of the degrees, and PhDs are where it really pays off. If you can find a program that bypasses the masters degree program and goes straight to PhD, monetarily-speaking, it's a sounder decision. That won't stop business undergrads from getting their MBA's, but I think master's programs are a waste of money."

Actually, this is wrong. A masters takes 1 extra year to get and counts as 3 years experience. PHDs take 3+ and maybe count for five years experience. People have a real problem giving a PHD with no experience that much credit.

The delta in salary between someone with zero experience and 3 years experience is huge. The delta between someone with 3+ years and 5 years is not as big.

Furthermore, many companies will pay for you to get a masters, making the masters extremely cost-effective. If you stay in school to get the masters, taking more than 1 year to do it is foolish.

Getting the PHD right after bachelors IS a good idea, though, because that shit is fresh in your head.

And yes, masters is the new bachelors.

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On the original topic, I think it is harder now.

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11/11/2008 10:26:11 PM

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"yep and through the setbacks, we still managed to come out smarter than you excelling at more challenging majors than PRT pwnt so sowah "

haha you wish

11/11/2008 10:54:30 PM

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"A masters takes 1 extra year to get and counts as 3 years experience. PHDs take 3+ and maybe count for five years experience. People have a real problem giving a PHD with no experience that much credit."

umm my graduate program is designed as a 2-3 year ordeal with an intensive summer

11/11/2008 10:59:47 PM

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"On the original topic, I think it is harder now."

skokiaan, could you elaborate? You're the first person to say that it's harder now. I'd like to hear the dissenting opinion.

11/11/2008 11:03:16 PM

there are people in my department that got their masters in 18 months

im going to take longer because im just getting it on the way to my PhD

11/11/2008 11:14:17 PM

meh

I've known people to take 4 years for their masters
and I've known people that got it in 1.5 years (they didn't have to do a thesis though)

11/11/2008 11:15:44 PM

I've been quoted from 1-1.5 years (typically online, but not necessarily; no thesis; business/humanities/social sciences) to five years (residential, thesis, biology and chem majors) for a Master's degree.

11/11/2008 11:21:34 PM

I got my Masters in a year at state and because NC State tutition is a fucking bargain, it will pay for itself in one year of work by the increase in my starting salary alone.

11/11/2008 11:29:32 PM

Nice. What did you study?

11/11/2008 11:32:02 PM

Industrial Engineering

11/11/2008 11:36:36 PM

That job sector is on the top ten list of work satisfaction. That is awesome.

11/11/2008 11:37:16 PM

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" Although antidotes do not qualify as real evidence, I know many very bright young people who ..... (I am a few months away from getting an MS in epidemiology from Harvard)"

LOL

It is way easier now, don't kid yourself into thinking it isn't.

11/11/2008 11:42:35 PM

Did YOU get into Harvard?

those kids in Cambridge are still stupidly brilliant... the stupidly part comes to things they interact with in daily life that they don't particularly care about...

11/11/2008 11:44:30 PM

Nah, the grade inflation is way worse in the Ivy Leagues than it is here.

11/11/2008 11:46:43 PM

some of these answers are pretty funny, and kind of make the point that i made earlier

11/11/2008 11:51:42 PM

bttt

11/12/2008 10:26:19 PM