I have NO problem with the Yankees spending their $$$ on players.

I have a HUGE problem with the Yankees asking for an additional $300M in bonds from the city to help out with their new "privately funded" Stadium after spending $400+M on players this offseason. Fuck the Steinbrenners. If you can't afford your stadium, tone down your fucking spending.

12/24/2008 1:01:48 AM

Maybe blame those who vote to approve the bonds?

[Edited on December 24, 2008 at 1:05 AM. Reason : Also curious as to how the finances for the new Mets stadium breaks down]

12/24/2008 1:04:54 AM

About equal in terms of city financed bonds... however, the Mets didn't go back and request an extra $300M... we'll see if it gets accepted... I can't imagine it will after the latest spending spree.

12/24/2008 1:07:42 AM

Quote :

"BASEBALL SALARY CAP"

via Baseball Think Factory:

Quote :

"It's not surprising that people are crying "salary cap" right now, given the dollar amounts and the fact that the Yankees signed the top 2 biggest-name free agents (and #3 was signed by the Mets). But if you look at it, this offseason is really just an anomaly. The Yankees' 2009 payroll is still going to be lower than 2008. They just happen to have a phenomenal incentive (missing the playoffs) and opportunity (all those expiring contracts) at the same time that most teams are trying to cut back or are hesitant to make major commitments. It looks bad, but it's not part of some systematic problem."

12/24/2008 1:28:00 AM

this is bullshit. regardless of the Yankees' recent signings BASEBALL STILL NEEDS A SALARY CAP.

How are fans in the smaller markets supposed to support their teams knowing that they cannot compete for the the elite players in the free agent markets? One tier of the league then becomes a farm system for the other tier.

I don't blame the Yankees, I blame MLB and Selig for letting this shit get out of hand.

12/24/2008 10:00:52 AM

I agree there should be a salary cap in baseball, but as a Yankees fan I am happy they have whored themselfs out again and bought every good player out there. Until they change the system the smaller markets like Pittsburgh do not have a prayer of winning anything.

12/24/2008 12:00:09 PM

go to hell yankees. just buy MLB and cancel the season

12/24/2008 12:20:25 PM

Haha, the Royals have an owner who is far richer than the Steinbrenners, but he just prefers padding his pockets further by keeping profits for himself rather than making an attempt at putting a competitive product on the field. If thei is bad baseball, explain to me the Marlins, Rays, Brewers, Dbacks, As, & Twins being competitive the last decade? Sounds like a lot of people on here need to get a better handle on baseball finances & history.

**From 1936-1964, the Yankees won 22 American League pennants. During a 29 year stretch, the Yankees were the AL representative in the World Series 76% of the time**

You're right, competitive balance used to be much better

Meanwhile, the NBA has a salary cap (& floor) and still has the least competitive balance of any of the major sports

[Edited on December 24, 2008 at 12:31 PM. Reason : nba]

12/24/2008 12:25:50 PM

Quote :

"If thei is bad baseball, explain to me the Marlins, Rays, Brewers, Dbacks, As, & Twins being competitive the last decade? Sounds like a lot of people on here need to get a better handle on baseball finances & history. "

Homer much?

The Brewers have hardly competitive until 2 years ago, not a decade, they were bottom dwellers. The Rays have had one good season. The Marlins win with young players and then basically give them away. The A's are the best example.

The point is when these teams develop great young talents they have to trade them away when their contracts are up because they cannot afford them ALA Giambi, Tejada, Ortiz, Johan, Penny, Burnett, Beckett, etc.

Are you seriously going to tell us that money doesn't matter when it comes to winning? With the current salaries, the Red Sox and Yankees will never have a losing season again unless they put a cap in place.

12/24/2008 12:35:30 PM

Homer? My team makes it to the playoffs once ever quarter century, but that doesn't mean I'm gonna cry about it.

My point is what evidence is there that a salary cap will increase competitive balance when some teams clearly show no interest in putting a competitive product out there to begin with (see: royals, pirates, nationals)?

Again, look at the balance in MLB before free agency & since, there is little question that free agency has led to more balance

Quote :

"The Marlins win with young players and then basically give them away"

Maybe we should have all the MLB owners consult you with how they are to run their teams since there certainly seems to be a set way you believe all teams must act and run a team?

[Edited on December 24, 2008 at 12:58 PM. Reason : ""]

12/24/2008 12:39:01 PM

i was screaming for a salary cap after sabathia got signed, but after reading some other forums and doing some research it became pretty clear that baseball doesn't need a salary cap, nor would a salary cap even work well in the first place. i don't feel like typing everything about why it wouldn't work, so this is a pretty good article to read if you're interested:

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=1345

it's from 2002, but i don't think any of what the guy says is irrelevant 6 years after the fact. and that's certainly not the only thing you can read on the topic either. but i do understand why people throw a fit whenever the yankees do stuff like this. and yes, it is easy to point to the teams that have won the world series every year since 2000 or the fact that so many different teams have made the playoffs in the last 8 years. although the rays and rockies have proven the last 2 years that a team can make it to the world series with a very small payroll, it is disheartening every year to see that the yankees already have a 90% chance of winning it all right out of the gates. but really all you can do is hope your team gets smarter and can enjoy some long term success eventually. the worst thing about the MLB is the draft. if anything should be fixed, it's the draft. but that's a whole other discussion.

12/24/2008 1:22:32 PM

Quote :

"I have a HUGE problem with the Yankees asking for an additional $300M in bonds from the city to help out with their new "privately funded" Stadium after spending $400+M on players this offseason. Fuck the Steinbrenners. If you can't afford your stadium, tone down your fucking spending."

Or not tear down your old one.

12/24/2008 1:27:56 PM

it's only a matter of time before they sign manny too

12/25/2008 11:12:20 PM

Can't wait, Manny in Pinstripes :-)

12/26/2008 12:12:34 PM

lol - take him...with all the other prima donna's in pinstripes, it'll be fun watching girardi's head explode trying to keep them in check

what will be the best part of all this is when the yanks still don't win a WS

12/26/2008 12:18:17 PM

Swisher on the blocks....I actually like him. I think they need him.

1/8/2009 6:30:03 PM

Quote :

"I have NO problem with the Yankees spending their $$$ on players."

1/8/2009 7:48:54 PM

Andy Pettitte and the Yankees agreed Monday to a one-year, $5.5 million contract that brings the left-hander back to New York.

Pettitte can make an additional $6.5 million on performance bonuses and bonuses based on time on the active roster.

I think every players contract should be performance based, and active time based....

[Edited on January 26, 2009 at 5:26 PM. Reason : .]

1/26/2009 5:24:49 PM

^That would be awesome. And if I were a player I would probably do that. Give me the league minimum and pay me extra for every W, Sv, all-star app, etc. Just have to decide which stats are actually important to each position.

1/26/2009 7:02:47 PM

I don't think were was much doubt May-Rod was doing roids. It was just a matter of time until he got nabbed. Jose said he was dirty and most people who he said were dirty have been....But I still hope his juiced up ass hits 50 hrs this year and has 150 rbi's

2/8/2009 7:41:21 PM

alright another year of sucking, only this year in a new stadium

2/8/2009 7:53:44 PM

Alex Rodriguez will attempt to play this season with an injured right hip, hoping to avoid surgery and a four-month rehabilitation period.

3/6/2009 9:38:24 AM

karma is a bitch. I hope he injures himself enough to have to retire

3/6/2009 3:22:41 PM

sounds like a Shawne Merriman situation

3/6/2009 5:50:53 PM

I'm trying to decide if I like Jeter leading off or better in the # 2 spot ?

4/2/2009 7:48:44 PM

Yankees win first game at new stadium....nice start to what I hope to be a World Championship in October :-)

4/4/2009 8:09:18 AM

haha i just heard on SC about the prices of tickets.



hahaha what a waste of money to watch a team lose.

4/4/2009 8:27:36 AM

not a single post since the season started? where ya at, Yankees fans?


BTW, Wang got shelled tonight! 1 IP, 6 H, 3 BB, 8 earned

4/13/2009 8:42:55 PM

they all jumped off the fucking bandwagon is what they did

4/13/2009 11:14:40 PM

another awesome start to a season! Jesus Christ Yankees

I can't decide which game to go to in July.

4/14/2009 8:23:09 PM

My brother is driving with me across the country when I move and we're going to go up to New York first to catch a Yankees game and then a Mets game at the end of July...

4/14/2009 8:25:13 PM

looks like you are just gonna waste money at the yankees game.

4/14/2009 11:33:51 PM

Nick Swisher leads the team in ERA

i think i'm gonna go cry...

4/15/2009 1:48:53 PM

Quote :

"looks like you are just gonna waste money at the yankees game."

Not really, because I'll obviously be rooting for them to lose

[Edited on April 15, 2009 at 1:52 PM. Reason : he's an ace type pitcher all right...]

4/15/2009 1:52:06 PM

Quote :

"rooting for them to lose"

thats what i like to hear

4/15/2009 2:05:48 PM

shit the indians are fucking them up. wang with a 33 ERA in two innings at their own barbeque

4/18/2009 4:35:27 PM

watching this, i love yankee fans in the stadium

4/18/2009 4:36:15 PM

haha grand slam

indians score 14 runs in the inning

[Edited on April 18, 2009 at 4:44 PM. Reason : ]

4/18/2009 4:39:54 PM

lol yankees.
countdown to giradi getting the axe?

4/18/2009 4:44:20 PM

Sorry double post. but still, lol yankees.

[Edited on April 18, 2009 at 5:04 PM. Reason : a]

4/18/2009 4:44:20 PM

Clagget just Devine'd all over himself

4/18/2009 4:45:20 PM

lol yankees.
countdown to giradi getting the axe?

4/18/2009 4:46:01 PM

aha

the Observer from Fringe was just shown at the game

4/18/2009 5:30:45 PM

nice 2nd inning

4/18/2009 5:39:27 PM

someone call MERCY. 19-2!!


er.... 20-2 now

[Edited on April 18, 2009 at 5:55 PM. Reason : LOL]

4/18/2009 5:55:08 PM

20-2, lol

4/18/2009 5:55:37 PM

Ass-dribble Cabrera really took it to you guys yesterday. How embarrassing when you have the #1 payroll to work with.

4/19/2009 12:42:21 PM

lol to lots of records being set in the new stadium. haha

4/19/2009 3:09:57 PM

That should be an out... clear interference again.. just like the '96 playoffs...

4/19/2009 3:40:49 PM

set up for failure

4/19/2009 3:49:59 PM