ernie is such a fuckin tool...
he has no personality and no friends, give him a break

he lived with two of my friends and stayed in his room 24/7 they told me

11/16/2008 6:53:07 PM

shit gawt reel

11/16/2008 6:59:27 PM

Dude has no idea what he's talking about

I mean, I could divulge a lot of the shit those guys told me about you, but that would be silly and immature.

[Edited on November 16, 2008 at 7:01 PM. Reason : ]

11/16/2008 7:00:20 PM

we're namecalling now? that's what this has come down to?

11/16/2008 7:07:17 PM

haha, how would they tell you anything, they never saw you... nice try

leave this to michigan/ohio state fans
i've learned to stay out of other threads i do not like... cause thats just "immature"

11/16/2008 7:26:59 PM

Quote :

"ernie is such a fuckin tool... he has no personality and no friends, give him a break he lived with two of my friends and stayed in his room 24/7 they told me"

damn son got his ass

11/16/2008 7:31:17 PM

I just read War As They Knew It (which focuses on Woody Hayes and Bo Schembechler), and lemme tell you, this is one of those special rivalries that is fun to watch no matter what. The rivalry was so intense that both Woody and Bo would practice practially year around for their big game. Woody would practice Monday-Wednesday on Michigan before they even focused on their weekly opponent, while Bo would run certain plays in practice all season which were geared specifically for the Ohio State game.

It's hard to label one rivalry as "the best" but it is equal to Bama/Auburn, Army/Navy, and Texas/OU.

11/16/2008 7:46:04 PM

i am not talking about it at my office
most old bunch wear Michigan jackets here

11/16/2008 8:10:55 PM

Ohio State favored by 19

11/16/2008 8:11:07 PM

^^the Michigan-Ohio State rivalry stands out to me among other college football rivalries because with the exception of the last few years under Jim Tressel, the underdog in this game always played their best football of the year and was always a threat to ruin the other team's hope of a national championship season. As much as I despise Big-10 football, it's hard to not give this rivalry it's credit.

I'd still rank yankees-red sox and duke - UNC as being bigger rivalries from the amount of people who truly care, but the only rivalry in sports where the two opponents truly hate each other as much as Ohio State and Michigan fans and players do is the Muhammed Ali -Joe Frazier legacy.

[Edited on November 16, 2008 at 8:22 PM. Reason : ^^]

11/16/2008 8:21:53 PM

^ and Auburn/Alabama.

I would have Michigan/Ohio State up there, the only thing against it is that for most of the mid 80s to mid 90s when both teams werent that great (as in national champ. level) it didnt seem like that big of a game nationally (I am sure it still was in Michigan/Ohio).

This happens to be the time when I was first really getting into college football. Hell, I remember when Tennessee played Ohio State in a bowl game in 97ish, it wasnt even a big deal at all, Ohio State was viewed as a good but not great matchup. So I realize that it was big before the 80s but it didnt seem to get really big again nationally until Tressel came along (since Cooper always got his ass kicked); but it doesnt seem like Auburn/Bama ever loses that, no matter what the team's records are.



[Edited on November 16, 2008 at 8:33 PM. Reason : d]

11/16/2008 8:24:42 PM

^you could make the same statement about how Alabama football had fallen off the map and how they were consistently dominated by Auburn in this decade until the current season.

11/16/2008 8:58:07 PM

the rivalry obviously means different things to different people

I think that the OSU/UM rivalry is the best in sports, followed by Duke/UNC and Yankees/Red Sox, the Auburn/Bama rivalry isnt even on my radar. I would expect an sec fan to think that the teams they follow the closest to have the bigger rivalry

I love how this same thread and argument is made every year

11/16/2008 8:58:35 PM

^^ and given the nature of their rivalry, I woudln't exactly bet the farm on Alabama to win.

11/16/2008 9:02:01 PM

^^^ but what I was saying is that its still been a huge game, even with Auburn dominating lately. Growing up in the 80s Michigan/Ohio State didnt seem like as big as a deal as it used to be

11/16/2008 9:35:36 PM

UM / OSU is definitely THE rivalry. Maybe RRod can redeem himself in his first season? If UM wins all of the rivalry haters will really understand the meaning of the rivalry. Anything could happen!

That being said, it doesn't seem likely UM will keep this close unless they play insano & get incredibly lucky.

Pretty hilarious that NCSU could probably beat UM this year.... first year I can remember where that is the case.

11/16/2008 9:40:43 PM

I feel I'm pretty unbiased but I like the Iron Bowl more... those teams and fans fucking HATE each other and don't try to hide it...

Michigan/Ohio State is good, don't get me wrong.

And I'm not going to compare it to Yanks/Sox or Duke/UNC because I've spent large parts of my life right smack in the middle of those rivalry's so to me they are larger than life...

11/16/2008 9:43:41 PM

I wonder if its a geography thing or an age thing... I am thinking age. During my formative years in watching college football Auburn/Bama was the game, with Bo Jackson, Shula, Van Tiffin's long ass kick, the 1992 Bama team, 1994 game where they were like #2 and #5 in the polls, Stallings etc. However, most of you are 19-24 so your formative years were later on, late 90s, early 2000s


^ yeah, not even close with me, definitely Iron Bowl, but then again I grew up with my dad (Bama) telling me all these stories of how much they hated each other. Michigan/Ohio State was a decent game, but on par with USC/ND, Florida/UGA, etc.

[Edited on November 16, 2008 at 9:46 PM. Reason : d]

11/16/2008 9:45:32 PM

Me as a 23 year old who has lived in Charlotte since I was 7

Michigan/OSU>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Auburn/Alabama

Not personally, as I don't have a preference for any of those 4 teams

but just the general vibe of relative importance of the games I've gotten from national and local media over the years

I've never seen the Iron Bowl hyped as THAT big of a deal while Michigan/OSU was always compared to Duke/UNC

11/16/2008 10:00:24 PM

jaybee, didn't you grow up in sec country? that might have a little to do with it

11/16/2008 10:04:54 PM

some statistic info for perspective:

UM vs OSU:
Series: Michigan leads, 57-41-6
Since 1935, Ohio State and Michigan have decided the Big Ten Conference championship between themselves on 23 different occasions, and have affected the determination of the conference title an additional 23 times.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michigan-Ohio_State_rivalry

BAMA vs AUB:
All-time series Alabama leads, 38–33–1
Alabama leads the series in Birmingham (34-18-1). Auburn leads the series in Tuscaloosa (6-0-0) and Auburn (7-2-0). The series is tied in Montgomery (2-2-0).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Bowl

UM/OSU have played 104 times to the Iron Bowl's 72 times, a whopping 32 game difference. I'm obviously more familiar with UM/OSU, and I know how many times the game has had a serious impact on national championship/bowl consideration. I'd be curious to compare those situations with the Iron Bowl and see which rivalry has more spoiler type games.

The level of hatred between the two rivalries will be harder to compare I think....

11/16/2008 10:05:10 PM

that's hate that you can't teach.

11/16/2008 10:16:14 PM

that didn't sound very passionate at all

11/16/2008 10:24:49 PM

Quote :

"jaybee, didn't you grow up in sec country? that might have a little to do with it"

sort of... I was raised as far north in Tennessee as you can go, right on the Kentucky border so we were just as close to parts of Ohio, Illinois, Missouri etc. as we were Alabama, Georgia, etc. and it was a military town, so people liked all sorts of teams.

going off what Slave said I think its more of an age rather than geography thing

11/16/2008 10:59:56 PM

Quote :

"UM/OSU have played 104 times to the Iron Bowl's 72 times, a whopping 32 game difference."

Harvard and Yale have played around a 100 times too since they've been around so long....does that make their rivalry great?

11/16/2008 11:36:07 PM

^ exactly

haha, this is cool


[Edited on November 16, 2008 at 11:41 PM. Reason : d]

11/16/2008 11:37:44 PM

Is ohio that state where those dumbfucks can't make up their mind about shit until the last second?

11/16/2008 11:42:26 PM

I'll be in the Shoe for the game!!!

11/17/2008 8:52:53 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jx5TVBf6cWM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9SIoMJINro

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ChtR3yMuD8

O, we don't give a damn for the whole state of Michigan
The whole state of Michigan, the whole state of Michigan
We don't give a damn for the whole state of Michigan, we're from Ohio
We're from Ohio...O-H
We're from Ohio...I-O
O, we don't give a damn for the whole state of Michigan
The whole state of Michigan, the whole state of Michigan
We don't give a damn for the whole state of Michigan, we're from Ohio

http://www.scarletandgray.info/osu/songs/michigan.html gives me chills

11/19/2008 11:10:40 AM

^I've made that my ringtone for the week

11/19/2008 11:22:16 AM

Quote :

"still the best rivalry in sports if you live up there"

never has it mattered less, well in the last few years at least.

michigan sucks, osu is only decent in a better than last year but still not very good big 11

11/19/2008 11:26:48 AM

no, it's mattered less. Ohio State can still go to the Rose Bowl if they win and MSU beats PSU.

11/19/2008 11:32:08 AM

but does anyone really care about that outside of so-cal and ohio?

11/19/2008 11:42:28 AM

yea, I'd say most people in Michigan care....

and I live in NC and I care...

HMM.

11/19/2008 12:37:08 PM

HOW ABOUT A LITTLE SCRIPT OHIO?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-TQcqRWbDA&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPNnIFH6_RU

11/20/2008 2:51:07 PM

there you are drod!!! gettin fired up?!?!?

michigan ohio state
wolfpack tar heels

side by side hd tvs saturday @ noon!!!!!

[Edited on November 20, 2008 at 2:59 PM. Reason : did i say tomorrow? i meant saturday]

11/20/2008 2:57:53 PM

yeah I'm a little pissed about the timing of the game(s)

got the new HDTV fired up and ready to go

11/20/2008 3:00:58 PM

but here is the double post back at you...
the BIG BLOCK M AND HAIL TO THE VICTORS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TVcKYpZrj0

minute 2:15 is where you get your "goosepimples" as bob ufer called them

[Edited on November 20, 2008 at 3:03 PM. Reason : d]

11/20/2008 3:01:17 PM

11/20/2008 4:10:40 PM

I heard this years game might be canceled as there's no way Michigan can make it to Columbus since the Wolverines cant get past Toledo.

11/20/2008 4:22:06 PM

O, we don't give a damn for the whole state of Michigan
The whole state of Michigan, the whole state of Michigan
We don't give a damn for the whole state of Michigan

should be part of the new National Anthem

11/20/2008 4:51:52 PM

^ So insecure they gotta write a song about a state that is vastly superior. Dig it.

11/20/2008 7:23:58 PM

plz 2 let the stadium implode

11/20/2008 7:31:43 PM

ooooooooo, we dont give a damn for the whole state of michigan

11/22/2008 11:54:23 AM

INT WOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

11/22/2008 12:12:48 PM

This is putrid to watch...

[Edited on November 22, 2008 at 12:37 PM. Reason : ok, that was better...]

11/22/2008 12:36:28 PM

Enjoying much. Old school Big Ten hard hitting defensive battle.

11/22/2008 12:50:54 PM

Except that the defenses aren't THAT great.

Michigan is just terrible. They are so slow in almost every position. Rodriguez must be wondering how the hell UM competed on a national level considering the team speed he had at WVU...

11/22/2008 12:58:18 PM

Ah well. This game appears to be over.

11/22/2008 1:01:24 PM

lol Michigan did the script "Ohio" before Ohio St.

11/22/2008 1:42:14 PM