ParksNrec All American 8742 Posts user info edit post |
The left hand is where the magic is. 12/3/2008 10:02:32 AM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Being a lefty is actually a slight disadvantage if anything
Most teams put their best pass blocker on the left side of the line to protect the right handed QB's blind side
That blocker could move over to the right side to protect the lefty's blind side, but since he probably has more experience at left tackle, he probably won't be as successful, at least initially 12/3/2008 10:03:34 AM |
zebranky All American 1668 Posts user info edit post |
you could make the same argument about the pass rush
most teams like to rush and blitz from their right side because that's the qb's blind side
they could flip the playbook to get after a lefty, but since they probably have more experience rushing from their right, they won't be as successful, at least initially 12/3/2008 11:00:03 AM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Bottom line is that there is no advantage to being a left QB...unless your goal is to be compared to Steve Young. 12/3/2008 11:00:56 AM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
^^ touche, but I'd argue that attacking from a different side is easier to adapting to than reacting from a different side 12/3/2008 11:05:00 AM |
ItsNme Suspended 731 Posts user info edit post |
I mean size alone seperates Tebow from others
He is no Ken Dorsey. 12/4/2008 10:11:26 AM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
Lou Holtz thinks he'll get it.
I can't see anyone but Bradford getting it though. 12/8/2008 4:20:11 AM |
JonathanL New Recruit 7 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Top 10 Defenses Faced Tim Tebow 2 Sam Bradford 1 Colt McCoy 0
Top 20 Defenses Faced Tim Tebow 5 Sam Bradford 1 Colt McCoy 0
Top 50 Defenses Faced Tim Tebow 10 Sam Bradford 3 Colt McCoy 0
Defenses Ranked Worse than No. 70 Tim Tebow 1 Sam Bradford 8 Colt McCoy 10" |
12/8/2008 6:56:19 AM |
JimmyV Veteran 133 Posts user info edit post |
12/8/2008 1:14:07 PM |
JimmyV Veteran 133 Posts user info edit post |
12/8/2008 1:16:11 PM |
goalielax All American 11252 Posts user info edit post |
^^^you and JayBee would be great friends
why don't you look at the flip side
Top 5 Offenses Big XII - 2 SEC - 0
Top 10 Offenses Big XII - 5 SEC - 0
Top 20 Offenses Big XII - 6 SEC - 1
Top 50 Offenses Big XII - 10 SEC - 3
Offenses Ranked worse than 70 Big XII - 2 SEC - 6
Offenses ranked worse than 100 Big XII - 0 SEC - 5
what comes first, the chicken or the egg? are you sure the SEC doesn't have great defensive stats just because half of the offenses are in the bottom 21? or that the Big XII defenses don't look bad because half of their offenses are in the top 20?
[Edited on December 8, 2008 at 2:33 PM. Reason : .] 12/8/2008 2:31:02 PM |
ItsNme Suspended 731 Posts user info edit post |
TEBOW BRADFORD MCCOY
Who will it be???? 12/11/2008 12:18:08 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
bradford 12/11/2008 12:19:26 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
goalielax you are a terrible troll.
Yeah all of those defenses that Tebow faces are good just because the offenses are bad. 12/11/2008 12:22:40 PM |
bigun60 All American 1069 Posts user info edit post |
Tebow is a better player this year than last year. Last year he HAD to throw and run all on his own to make his team successfull. That got them 3 losses. This year, he's doing better, leading his team better, and has his team 1 loss. IMO the deciding factor is that the BIG XII qb's could have a bad game and go for 200 something yards and a few td's against the defenses they were facing. If tebow had a bad day, Florida would have a hard time winning. 12/11/2008 12:30:18 PM |
DROD900 All American 24658 Posts user info edit post |
he does have a good point, LSU's offense sucked this year, so every team they played against had a defense that probably put up good numbers on them
the same goes for quite a few of the teams in the SEC
it doesnt really matter either way, and is just a reason to argue, but his point is valid and certainly isnt on a "trolling" level 12/11/2008 12:32:37 PM |
ItsNme Suspended 731 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Great post.
The thing about it is, TEBOW and BRADFORD have a ton of weapons around them.
McCoy has fewer weapons.
I would categorize them like this:
Best passer: Bradford
Best runner: Tebow
Most Accurate: McCoy
Best Leader: Tebow
Most Dangerous: Tebow 12/11/2008 1:05:30 PM |
JimmyV Veteran 133 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on December 11, 2008 at 5:54 PM. Reason : tried to up load a pic... didn't work... i think tebow did it with sheer will power]
12/11/2008 5:50:57 PM |
goalielax All American 11252 Posts user info edit post |
terrible troll? that's a legitimate post
did you know that the ACC has more top 25 defenses than the SEC does? OMG DWYER AND WILSON FOR HEISMAN!
but no, I think we all know the ACC has good defensive stats because the offenses aren't that good.
the SEC has 2 really good teams this year - Bama and Florida. Take out the three games the ACC played against them, and the ACC teams averaged 43 yards a game over the SEC team's average yds allowed all year long
[Edited on December 11, 2008 at 6:20 PM. Reason : .] 12/11/2008 6:03:10 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I think we all know the ACC has good defensive stats because the offenses aren't that good" |
truth.12/11/2008 6:19:52 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
cant fucking stand this guys name 12/11/2008 6:22:47 PM |
Spontaneous All American 27372 Posts user info edit post |
Tebow vs. McCoy vs. Bradford 12/11/2008 10:10:33 PM |
ItsNme Suspended 731 Posts user info edit post |
In a triple threat Cage match
I think Tebow would win 12/12/2008 9:21:37 AM |
Steven All American 6156 Posts user info edit post |
so i thought there was usually 5 candidates that go to New York? or are they just not talking about the other two?? 12/13/2008 1:06:26 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
My vote is Tebow. He's the reigning heavy weight champ and neither challenger has knocked him out. 12/13/2008 1:09:40 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
They didn't invite but these three......Harrell and Crabtree didn't get invited. Which is a crock if you ask me. One analyst said is was to not embarrass anyone that didn't get many votes. 12/13/2008 1:10:53 PM |
Ronny All American 30652 Posts user info edit post |
^^That isn't exactly how it works... 12/13/2008 2:09:34 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
robbed 12/13/2008 9:02:15 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
No surprise that Bradford won.....the voters go for the gaudy numbers. 12/13/2008 9:03:48 PM |
NoidRoid All American 7642 Posts user info edit post |
Where is your God now, Tebow? 12/13/2008 9:06:39 PM |
pttyndal WINGS!!!!! 35217 Posts user info edit post |
haha. teblow pwnt, stay home. not only did he not win but he finished 3rd kinda funny that he had the most 1st place votes though 12/13/2008 9:08:19 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
Have 2 winners ever played each other for a championship before? 12/13/2008 9:09:24 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
I was actually leaning towards Bradford until I heard this dude break shit down, Tebow played 10 defenses ranked in the top 50, Bradford and McCoy played 3-4 each 12/13/2008 9:09:45 PM |
roddy All American 25834 Posts user info edit post |
2009 Russell Wilson! 12/13/2008 9:09:47 PM |
NoidRoid All American 7642 Posts user info edit post |
It's a shame there isn't an award for the most rectangularly shaped head, Tebow would win every year. 12/13/2008 9:13:25 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
i argue that it would've been tebow had he not won it last year. 12/13/2008 9:32:13 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
I think Bradford deserved it. Good for him. I also think OU wins the National Championship. You can say OU hasn't faced a defense like UF all year... but it's a verified fucking fact that UF hasn't faced an offense like OU all year either... 12/13/2008 9:42:24 PM |
ItsNme Suspended 731 Posts user info edit post |
DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS 12/13/2008 10:23:54 PM |
goalielax All American 11252 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Tebow played 10 defenses ranked in the top 50, Bradford and McCoy played 3-4 each" |
and how many of those defenses were good because of bad offenses?
[Edited on December 13, 2008 at 10:30 PM. Reason : for continuity with BHS below]12/13/2008 10:26:29 PM |
BigHitSunday Dick Danger 51059 Posts user info edit post |
and how many of those defenses were good because of bad offenses? 12/13/2008 10:27:04 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "and how many of those defenses were good because of bad offenses?" |
I know you are like me with football like I am with baseball. A pitchers duel (low scoring, defensive struggle) is one of the most amazing things to watch...
But I agree... when you see SEC teams struggling with the likes of Big East and ACC teams on offense you have to ask yourself how much of a product the terrible SEC offenses are at the bottom of that conference..
[Edited on December 13, 2008 at 10:32 PM. Reason : x]12/13/2008 10:32:28 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
The Heisman is completely meaningless. 12/13/2008 11:35:01 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
but everyone scored on everyone in the Big 12, there were several defenses that were good outside of when they played Florida.
I didnt even see Jonathan L's post above, I gave the Big 12 too much credit, it wasnt 3-4...
Even though I hate him, there is no doubt in my mind that Tebow is the best offensive player in college football
[Edited on December 14, 2008 at 12:41 AM. Reason : c] 12/14/2008 12:37:27 AM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The Heisman is completely meaningless." |
in the grand scheme of things, football is completely meaningless also.
what's your point?12/14/2008 12:49:55 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
But the Phillies are world phucking champs and that has some meaning... amirite? 12/14/2008 12:51:19 AM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
Monte + Berry = Heisman? 12/14/2008 12:51:36 AM |
cyrion All American 27139 Posts user info edit post |
he'll have 2 championships and a heisman after this year. i doubt tebow will be losing any sleep. 12/14/2008 12:53:01 AM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ go phils. 12/14/2008 12:54:53 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "he'll have 2 championships and a heisman after this year. i doubt tebow will be losing any sleep." |
Ah, haha...
My girlfrien started grad school a few years ago at UF and has seen 2 NCAAB titles an 1 NCAAF titles...
Yet, she hates UF and remains UNC and NC State fan....12/14/2008 12:56:59 AM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
are you drunk? 12/14/2008 12:58:28 AM |