YOMAMA Suspended 6218 Posts user info edit post |
Why are there always more reported in June/July/August? 11/30/2008 7:50:47 PM |
joepeshi All American 8094 Posts user info edit post |
aliens - yes ufo - probably not ghosts - no 12/1/2008 12:46:10 AM |
arghx Deucefest '04 7584 Posts user info edit post |
How many people think aliens exist, they have spacefaring technology, and have actually visited our planet? Once again, dead serious question. I don't want this sent to soap box or chit-chat.
Although I have not made up my mind on this matter, I am leaning towards yes because of the documentary evidence. There's just too much to ignore. It has to have happened at least once... there are writings from before the 20th century describing what seems to be alien craft etc. Could every single solitary one be a hallucination or a hoax? 12/1/2008 1:02:43 AM |
GrumpyGOP yovo yovo bonsoir 18191 Posts user info edit post |
Many people have claimed to see the following:
Bigfoot Nessie the Chupacabra Jesus Yeti UFOs
etc. It seems more likely that some of those are nonexistent, implausible as it is that such a large number of accounts are hallucinations, hoaxes, or errors.
Given the scope of the universe it seems very likely that somewhere there are aliens. Whether or not they're substantially more spacefaring than us is another question. I doubt any have visited Earth, and if they have, it was a one-off thing; regular surveillance and I'd expect more hard evidence by now. And I don't buy government cover-ups, because I've yet to hear a satisfactory explanation for why the government would want to cover anything up. 12/1/2008 1:08:45 AM |
GoldenViper All American 16056 Posts user info edit post |
^ Eh, the government would have to plenty of reason to cover up classic UFOs. That part of the traditional narrative makes perfect sense. Acknowledging a vastly more powerful alien civilization was making of a mockery of the US military wouldn't do the government any favors. Especially during the Cold War! Imagine the embarrassment. 12/1/2008 1:16:47 AM |
arghx Deucefest '04 7584 Posts user info edit post |
What gets me about the idea of aliens visiting the planet is that the stories come from so many more diverse sources than local claims of X monster in X wilderness/lake/mountain/whatever. But I guess you could argue that the idea of alien visitors is really just the same thing though--a global aggregate of that kind of local myth.
let's try to stay off the coverup/conspiracy theory stuff please or this thread will degenerate quickly
[Edited on December 1, 2008 at 1:17 AM. Reason : .] 12/1/2008 1:17:00 AM |
mathman All American 1631 Posts user info edit post |
Angels are aliens. They are physical beings which are not from an Earthly origin. I don't understand why Christians would fear the existence of aliens from first principles.
That said, most of the AM coast to coast stuff is complete and total garbage. Oh, and I hate the Drake. 12/1/2008 1:55:44 AM |
Willy Nilly Suspended 3562 Posts user info edit post |
^ I'm no theologian, but angels are spirits, not beings. Aliens (assuming they exist,) are beings like us. Angels, (assuming they exist, which I personally doubt,) are more like ghosts, lacking any physical form -- not physical beings. http://www.angelsfeather.com/viewpost_82021.asp
Quote : | "implausible as it is that such a large number of accounts are hallucinations, hoaxes, or errors." | I don't think that is the least bit implausible. Our brain perceives reality through the same process as it produces dreams and hallucinations. Eye-witness testimony, in and of itself, is notoriously unreliable. Everyone knows that people create elaborate hoaxes (UFOs, bigfoot,etc.,) to get attention placed on themselves. Lastly, human history is ripe with errors.
[Edited on December 1, 2008 at 7:44 AM. Reason : ]12/1/2008 7:38:24 AM |
agentlion All American 13936 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Why are there always more reported in June/July/August?" |
b/c that's when people are hanging out outside at night looking at the sky12/1/2008 8:04:16 AM |
Wraith All American 27257 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "That said, most of the AM coast to coast stuff is complete and total garbage." |
Haha yeah it is but it is still fun to listen to.12/1/2008 9:26:36 AM |
guitarzan Veteran 468 Posts user info edit post |
maybe. 12/4/2008 12:08:38 AM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
I think alien lifeforms likely do exist. I will even concur that we may not be the only intelligent alien life to have existed in the universe.
None the less I think all of the UFO sightings are bogus. In the very unlikely event some alien explorer to stop by our planet the chances of them coming during the period we have developed technology to detect them is even slim. Our planet has been around 4 billion years. Human civilization has been around for approx 5000 years. The current information age of advanced electrical technologies barely 100 years.
For all we know our planet was a fucking pit stop for some extinct advanced civilization 500 million years ago. 12/4/2008 3:26:33 PM |
xvang All American 3468 Posts user info edit post |
Jesus was an alien. I believe in Jesus. So I believe in aliens. 12/4/2008 3:31:45 PM |
bous All American 11215 Posts user info edit post |
aliens - most definately ufos - only the ones governments create and test ghosts - no 12/4/2008 3:37:33 PM |
se7entythree YOSHIYOSHI 17377 Posts user info edit post |
yes i believe in aliens, as in living beings from planets other than earth. ufos, ghosts, and jesus? not so much
[Edited on December 4, 2008 at 4:13 PM. Reason : martians] 12/4/2008 4:11:59 PM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
^ I think jesus existed.
I just don't think he had fireballs coming from his eyes and bolts of lightning from his arse 12/4/2008 10:14:15 PM |
Sputter All American 4550 Posts user info edit post |
i saw something on discovery a couple of weeks back about unidentified sumersible objects that was pretty cool.
are they aliens or are they indigenous and just so much more advanced than us that we don't know they exist?
Does an ant colony recognize my car? 12/4/2008 10:36:46 PM |
se7entythree YOSHIYOSHI 17377 Posts user info edit post |
^^yeah, there probably was some dude named jesus back in the day, but i don't believe in the deity/character/idea of jesus 12/5/2008 11:06:24 AM |
RSXTypeS Suspended 12280 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "aliens - yes ufo - probably not ghosts - no" |
what you meant was
aliens - probably not ufo - yes ghosts - no
UFO != aliens.12/5/2008 11:18:01 AM |
icyhotpatch All American 1885 Posts user info edit post |
When I see legitimate evidence of aliens then I'll believe they exist. 12/5/2008 11:50:07 AM |
SymeGuy69 All American 11036 Posts user info edit post |
[YES] 12/5/2008 11:52:38 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "theduke: my thoughts exactly." |
Don't you have access to some Air Force info on the matter to clear things up for us 12/5/2008 12:13:11 PM |
Arab13 Art Vandelay 45180 Posts user info edit post |
more than likely, are they as intelligent or more so than us, likely, have they come here and some schlub has video taped them, less likely, the same schlub claims to have been abducted, highly unlikely. 12/5/2008 2:35:53 PM |
ssjamind All American 30102 Posts user info edit post |
yes
and we will need the Vulcans to save us when this global financial crisis leads us to WWIII 12/5/2008 2:49:45 PM |
Big Business Suspended 9099 Posts user info edit post |
Either life started on this planet due to life forms from another galaxy, or we were never visited and never will be visited
I'm Big Business and i approved this message. 12/5/2008 3:12:20 PM |
jprince11 All American 14181 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Jesus was an alien. I believe in Jesus. So I believe in aliens.
" |
I thought I was the only one that thought this, if he really did the miracles they claim then this would be the most likely explanation, they even had a star trek episode about this12/5/2008 6:26:51 PM |
ScHpEnXeL Suspended 32613 Posts user info edit post |
did nobody else watch planet of the apes? geez 12/5/2008 6:36:03 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
i still havent seen the original
saw the marky mark version once 12/5/2008 6:47:11 PM |
omicron101 All American 3662 Posts user info edit post |
The alien photo released by China in 1995
[Edited on December 10, 2008 at 8:01 PM. Reason : ]
[Edited on December 10, 2008 at 8:02 PM. Reason : better photo]
12/10/2008 7:59:59 PM |
jimmy123 Veteran 395 Posts user info edit post |
^from the website:
Quote : | "Some have claimed this is a photo of a real alien. In reality, this alien is on display at the Roswell International Museum as a depiction of what the aliens might have looked like in the alleged 1947 UFO crash near Roswell N.M." |
[Edited on December 10, 2008 at 10:33 PM. Reason : .]12/10/2008 10:33:26 PM |
Doss2k All American 18474 Posts user info edit post |
Dont worry they will all be back in about 4 years 12/10/2008 10:35:21 PM |
omicron101 All American 3662 Posts user info edit post |
^^ good call. i didn't check out the site, just came across the pic in a google search. as i said before, i don't believe they've ever visited earth, but that seems to be the general consensus as to what "they" look like 12/10/2008 11:00:56 PM |
synchrony7 All American 4462 Posts user info edit post |
I think it is highly likely that some planet other than ours has the conditions to support life. Possibly the exists sentient life as intelligent or more intelligent than ours.
However, I find it highly unlikely that if they were intelligent enough to master intergalactic travel: 1) They would just abduct humans and perform medical experiments. They would either want to observe without disrupting us or attempt to communicate openly.
2) If they are smart enough to travel through the large distances of space and didn't want to be seen, you'd think they would be smart enough to turn the lights off on their spaceship when they are in Earth's atmosphere
3) I really doubt a being that superior to us in technology would come here with a peaceful purpose, call me cynical. 12/10/2008 11:56:11 PM |
bubster5041 All American 1164 Posts user info edit post |
aliens are likely, the numbers support it 12/11/2008 1:48:54 AM |